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    Upgraded Kirov class: Project 11442 [Admiral Nakhimov]

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    Post  GarryB Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:15 am

    OSA and S-300 would still be able to shoot down subsonic missiles of the type the Ukraine had...

    I personally think it might have launched an S-300 SAM whose main rocket motor might have failed to fire and it dropped back onto the deck and burned and started an internal fire that the fire fighting equipment on board was unable to deal with.

    HMG mounts and just sailors with small arms can put up a lot of tracer ammo to scare away manned speed boats or attack aircraft, or just hit and destroy small surface targets like floating mines or surface drones.

    There was even talk of using supercavitating rounds from the 30mm gatlings to shoot into the water a few metres deep to destroy incoming enemy torpedoes.

    Older ships the size of Moskva have enormous potential for carrying and operating their own drones too... there is no reason to say a drone swarm can't be dealt with using large calibre HE rounds like a 152mm airburst round set to explode amongst the enemy swarm, and of course your own drones going out to knock enemy drones down too.

    Even EMP shells could be used, and of course on a large ship there is space and power and cooling potential for lasers and radar jammers... a drone swarm rendered blind is not effective either.

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    Post  caveat emptor Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:24 pm

    Crazy numbers:
    The source said that the cost of repairing "Admiral Nakhimov" exceeded 200 billion rubles.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/18573155

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    Post  Mir Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:52 pm

    Starting price was 150 billion - so after all those years - not so bad Neutral

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:57 pm

    It is still a lot.
    Even at current conversion ratios, 1.5 bln $.
    You can buy four 22350 with that money.
    Sorry that I can't be converted to your religion folks Very Happy Very Happy

    Edit : uuupsss ... that's 2 bln $, my bad.

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    Post  caveat emptor Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:01 pm

    During last 5 years average rate is about 70-75 rubles for a dollar. So it is over 2.5 billion USD for quoted number.

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    Post  Mir Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:38 pm

    It is a shitload of money yes, but considering that the Nikhamov is for all practical purposes a brand new ship. Not only that - it is the most powerful combat ship in naval history by far. Now consider the British QE carriers at about 4 billion GBP each - the Nakhimov now seems like a bargain! Laughing

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    Post  LMFS Fri Aug 25, 2023 1:04 am

    Mir wrote:It is a shitload of money yes, but considering that the Nikhamov is for all practical purposes a brand new ship. Not only that - it is the most powerful combat ship in naval history by far. Now consider the British QE carriers at about 4 billion GBP each - the Nakhimov now seems like a bargain! Laughing  

    I have to agree, it is not expensive for the most powerful surface combatant in the world, by far...

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    Post  owais.usmani Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:42 am

    If this 200 billion figure is true then its almost certain that PtG will not be upgraded.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:12 am

    Much of that alleged 200B is R&D and rebuild of supply chains to replace Soviet era equipment which is no longer manufactured. Those funds are a one-off sunk cost, and won't be repeated for PtG. Hardware costs will be based on repeat orders. Additionally the Nahkimov was in worse condition that the PtG as it had been berthed for 15 years at Sevmash waiting for repairs with minimal maintenance, while PtG is in active service.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:51 am

    Mir wrote:It is a shitload of money yes, but considering that the Nikhamov is for all practical purposes a brand new ship. Not only that - it is the most powerful combat ship in naval history by far. Now consider the British QE carriers at about 4 billion GBP each - the Nakhimov now seems like a bargain! Laughing  

    It is nit a scale of corruption contest bro Laughing Russkie won't stand a chance here because of competitors Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Backman Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:55 am

    It was posted a few pages back but here's the Combat Approved episode on the Nakhimov. So few pictures get posted of the ship. You have to watch this to get re acquainted with it

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    Post  tanino Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:07 pm

    Boys, Am I mistaken or do we have a new photo of the construction site on G Maps?
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    Post  Mir Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:32 pm

    Nikhamov's reactors are be fired up somewhere in November 2023 Cool

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:37 pm

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:13 pm

    Main radar has been installed on Nakhimov.  thumbsup

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    Post  Mir Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:30 pm

    Looks very similar to the MR-650 Podberezovik radar fitted on Marshal Ustinov and Kerch cruisers. Should have a useful detection range of around 500-600 km.

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