eehnie wrote:or this call this time, but are not what you say GarryB.
The question is why you deny the attacks of Israel in Syria when the ambassador of Israel in Russia is not summoned, while you deny not the attacks of the US in Syria when the ambassador of the US in Russia is not summoned.
You obviously do not understand what is the meaning of
Rules of Engagement . That always plays a major role in every war.
Do you think Russia could not have shutdown Turkey plane that intercepted from behind their bomber? Russia was not at war with Turkey ,so it cannot shutdown any plane flying over its own airspace.
When it comes to Israel.. Russia is not at war with Israel either. So i dont know whats your fucking point. Russia is NOT using S-300s or S-400s against israel. Those are only used for the defense of its military base in Latakia and its soldiers. IF Russia was at war with Israel , none of those Israeli jets will be allowed to even fly over lebanon or even take off from its airports. Iskanders missiles will have wiped Israeli airforce in less than an hour. But Because Russia is not at war with Israel. It neither either have drawn a line for them ,in where to attack or not in Syria ,so they continue it.. that is bombing Syria but at the risk of Losing planes as they have done already according to Syrian military sources.
The real important thing here is that if ISraeli planes were not harmed ,then why is the Israeli defense minister so angry at Syria S-200s and threatening to destroye them?
I mean.. If Syrian defenses were obsolete , then the Israeli defense minister will not be threatening to destroy them don you think?
Fact of the matter , Israeli Actions Confirms , that at very least..
they see Syria S-200s as a major threat to their airforce. And you can even see they lying when say nothing happened their planes ,because Arrow 3 airdefenses cannot reach Syria airspace. LOL So Israel lies about the "shipment to hezbolah of weapons "from the wrong direction of the Border , and lies when tried to made it look at first that S-200s pose no threat to them. because it took them 24 hours to come with a major threat to Syria that it will destroy their air defenses.. So if they are harmless ,why they bother to destroy it?
Russia strategy is one of Practical reality , and not of bragging rights. In practical reality ,Israel will lose a dozen of planes or more trying to defeat Syria air defenses. Because now they have been warned of Israeli intentions and Russia will provide them with logistic support ,and if Russia air defenses destroyed ,after israeli lose many planes ,Russia can replace those air defenses again to Syria. So Russia strategy is to make it very expensive for Israel , any objectives in Syria. They risk their pilots to be taken down for their agression and their actions will Change Nothing in the ground
. You need a lot more than 4 planes to defeat Syria army. Israel alone will not be able to hold for long a war with Syria with Russia weapons support and and IRAN and hezbolah direct support.
And if the Syrian general staff is to be believed ,and the link i posted of a Russian citizen. then Israeli lost not one but two planes to S-200s. and this is why they are so angry now , inviting Russia for a war.
So people believing in the invulnerability of Israeli airforce with planes from the 80s.. that Russian radars can see as soon they take off ,will be for a major disappointing new reality. Russia will simply try to keep some distance and play the game of helping Syria from behind. Is after all Netanyahu the one who is inviting this games. Lets see how long takes Israel to repeat another strike. my bet is they will wait weeks before another happens . If that is the case ,it will be a MAJOR VICTORY for Syria ,since their missiles did the job of deterrence of Israel at very least , or in the best case shut down 2 of their planes.
F-16s are NOT stealthy idiot.. And it can be shot down even with manpads. So don't come crying later here ,when Israeli pilots captured. The fact that Israel is so quick to leave Syria whenever it does a surprise attack is because they know is very RISKY to stay for long there. Last information is that the planes were only 5 minutes and had to abort their mission when they were fired S-200s.
What is questioned however is who is right about whether or not they lost 2 planes. But they had to leave very quickly and more importantly , Their Air space violation on Syria achieved NOTHING. no one killed ,nothing destroyed.
Fact is the Syrian General Staff provided a very detailed information from where the planes entered and what they did and how 2 planes fall over terrorist zone. Fact is , Israeli is now threatening with more hostilities ,to Syria for using its S-200 air defenses on them. so obviously this is a clear indication the israeli apartheid state ,really see them as dangerous for them..
They dont even wanted IRAN to get S-300s.. so why Israeli fear Russian air defenses so much is the question?