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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Nov 08, 2022 6:31 pm

    Yes, but that picture is from last year and some units under construction are missing....

    * Corvettes "Braviy" and "Grozniy" (both of the project 20380) are put under question mark and the author of the picture put them as units that are under construction, so I will not add anything there except the name for the corvettes.

    * Another 3 project 20385 corvettes are not in that picture; Buiniy, Razumny, Bistriy,

    * Another 2 diesel-electric project 677 submarines are not in that picture; Vologda and Yaroslavl,

    * One minesweeper of the project 12700 is not in that piscutre.

    * Many of the submarines in the picture are already operational; K-552 Knyaz Oleg, K-553 Novosibirsk, K-329 Belgorod, B-602 Magadan. They are about to be put into use; K-553 Generalissimus Suvorov, K-571 Krasnoyarsk, B-586 Kronshtadt, B-588 Ufa
    The following submarines will almost certainly be launched soon; K-564 Arkhangelsk, K-XXX Emperor Alexander III, B-587 Velikiye Luki and B-XXX Mozhaysk, and possibly Khabarovsk.

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    Post  Arrow Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:36 pm

    So, within two years, the construction of more ships began. The graphics are not up to date, you can see more and more warships being built. It is enough to look at what it looked like a decade ago. You can see that in the last decade, the progress in building new ships for the VMF has greatly accelerated.

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    Post  lancelot Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:20 pm

    They need to put the Project 22350 frigate in series production at more than one shipyard.
    They should put it under production at Yantar or Zaliv as well. It is kind of obvious the engine production rate issue is solved.
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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:34 pm

    lancelot wrote:They need to put the Project 22350 frigate in series production at more than one shipyard.
    They should put it under production at Yantar as well. It is kind of obvious the engine production rate issue is solved.

    No Lancelot, no.. The first thing they need to do is finally send the fucking "Golovko" to sea trials and show themselves and the world that they finally have reliable gas turbines for those frigates.
    I gave up on that story and I don't think there will be any progress regarding the introduction of those frigates into service in the next 2 to 3 years. It is a shame to imagine that the naval command approved the 22350 project for construction back in 2003 and that the first frigate was laid down in 2006. And what do we have in 2022 ? Two, two fucking frigates in 20 years. If we are realistic, 20 years is a long time and the question is how valid that project is for today's conditions of warfare and above all the sailing range of those frigates is too short. There is no excuse for Russia to allow itself to find itself in a position where it has not yet completed the gas turbines for these ships. There is no point even thinking about ships with an even larger displacement than the project 22350 frigates, because they need even more powerful turbines and diesel engines than those on the 22350 frigates. The only solution is nuclear power.
    Honestly, the only thing that really annoys me are the project 22350 frigates. No luck from that project and I don't see any positive progress in Russian shipbuilding of "larger" displacement surface warships, because the project 22350 frigates are one of the smallest full displacement frigates in the world. Yes, they have excellent weapons, but also the shortest sailing range - and they are built by the country with the largest coastline in the world.
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    Post  lancelot Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:53 pm

    UEC Saturn finished the design of the M90FR gas turbines in 5 years. The annexation of Crimea was in 2014 and they had working engines in 2019. Since then they produced gas turbines not just for the Admiral Golovko but also for the Admiral Isakov. If anything the bottleneck seems to be production of the reduction gear at Zvezda in St. Petersburg not the gas turbines. But it seems kind of obvious they can supply the engines and reduction gears for one ship a year. They would have supplied the engine units for the Admiral Isakov even earlier if Zvezda did not spend time producing reduction gear for that waste of space Project 20386 ship.

    It was a mistake to rely on Ukraine for anything in the first place. But I think they worked at a good pace in replacing the Ukrainian components. And yes it remains to be seen how reliable the new engine units will be but I am fairly sure they will solve any issues that might happen.

    They just need to increase production of the Project 22350 frigates I think. And design something to replace the Karakurt corvette which does not use the Zvezda radial engines.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:59 pm

    lancelot wrote:UEC Saturn finished the design of the M90FR gas turbines in 5 years. The annexation of Crimea was in 2014 and they had working engines in 2019. Since then they produced gas turbines not just for the Admiral Golovko but also for the Admiral Isakov. If anything the bottleneck seems to be production of the reduction gear at Zvezda in St. Petersburg not the gas turbines. But it seems kind of obvious they can supply the engines and reduction gears for one ship a year. They would have supplied the engine units for the Admiral Isakov even earlier if Zvezda did not spend time producing reduction gear for that waste of space Project 20386 ship.


    Lancelot, I respect your work on this forum and there is no dispute about that.
    I don't see any progress and I won't be satisfied until I finally see "Admiral Golovko" on sea trials. If everything goes well with those tests, only then can we expect an acceleration of the construction of those frigates. The key to the whole story is "Golovko", while the smaller problem is whether the frigates will be built by Severnaya Werf, Yantar or Amur.
    And the project 20386 corvette has been under construction for 6 years, so nothing is going right there either. At this rate that corvette could be the only corvette of its project built by 2030 as there are no other corvettes of that project under construction and no new contracts announced for the construction of project 20386.
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    Post  lancelot Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:09 am

    Podlodka77 wrote:At this rate that corvette could be the only corvette of its project built by 2030 as there are no other corvettes of that project under construction and no new contracts announced for the construction of project 20386.
    I hope so. That the series gets cancelled. That ship is a waste of money and resources. It uses the same propulsion resources as a Project 22350 frigate and is worse in every way. Weaker artillery piece, half or less the land attack VLS cells, and half the SAM cells. Not to mention the AK-630 instead of the Palash CIWS. It is full on retard. From the same people who gave us the Project 22160 ship design which cannot even protect itself against drones in the Black Sea and uses the same engine resource as a Project 20380 corvette. Pure sabotage.


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    Post  limb Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:37 am

    lancelot wrote:UEC Saturn finished the design of the M90FR gas turbines in 5 years. The annexation of Crimea was in 2014 and they had working engines in 2019. Since then they produced gas turbines not just for the Admiral Golovko but also for the Admiral Isakov. If anything the bottleneck seems to be production of the reduction gear at Zvezda in St. Petersburg not the gas turbines. But it seems kind of obvious they can supply the engines and reduction gears for one ship a year. They would have supplied the engine units for the Admiral Isakov even earlier if Zvezda did not spend time producing reduction gear for that waste of space Project 20386 ship.

    It was a mistake to rely on Ukraine for anything in the first place. But I think they worked at a good pace in replacing the Ukrainian components. And yes it remains to be seen how reliable the new engine units will be but I am fairly sure they will solve any issues that might happen.

    They just need to increase production of the Project 22350 frigates I think. And design something to replace the Karakurt corvette which does not use the Zvezda radial engines.

    What makes reduction gears so much more complex to produce than a gas turbine? Why was zvezda of all manufacturers contracted to produce it when its been an abviously corrupt trashheap barely imrpoved since the 90s? Why couldn't kolomna, klimov, aviadvigatel, etc produce the reduction gears?
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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:38 am

    lancelot wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:At this rate that corvette could be the only corvette of its project built by 2030 as there are no other corvettes of that project under construction and no new contracts announced for the construction of project 20386.
    I hope so. That the series gets cancelled. That ship is a waste of money and resources. It uses the same propulsion resources as a Project 22350 frigate and is worse in every way. Weaker artillery piece, half or less the land attack VLS cells, and half the SAM cells. Not to mention the AK-630 instead of the Palash CIWS. It is full on retard. From the same people who gave us the Project 22160 ship design which cannot even product itself against drones in the Black Sea and uses the same engine resource as a Project 20380 corvette. Pure sabotage.


    Of course, the best solution are corvettes of project 20385 corvette and 22350 frigate.
    I am also satisfied with the basic corvettes of project 20380, although the Steregushchiy corvette needs to replace the air defense system.
    Project 20385 corvettes have the same striking power as frigates in terms of anti-submarine warfare with Paket-NK + helicopter, while frigate air defense and striking power are twice as high compared to project 20385 corvettes. A 130mm A-192 gun was also mounted on project 22350 frigates.
    The only two full-blooded multipurpose ships are the project 20380/5 and 22350 corvettes. They have everything at a decent or high level; anti-ship, anti-aircraft and anti-submarine weapons.
    Well, the Project 20380 corvettes can't launch the supersonic P-800 or 3M22 Zircon, nor the 3M14 cruise missiles, but that doesn't mean the existing H-35Us aren't solid, especially since the Russians are working on further refining those missiles.
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    Post  LMFS Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:25 am

    Arrow wrote:Podloodka 77, this graphic shows very well how many ships are currently being built by Russia.A country that does not aspire to be a navy power.

    The opposite is stated by the RF strategic documents. And the current amount of SSN is already enough to place the VMF among the 2-3 main navies in the world, not to mention that in the shortest future they will be armed with Tsirkon, making it the most lethal one. By far. Maybe not enough for sea control, but definitely enough for deterrence.

    People need to understand that building up an industry is like building a house: the foundations take most of the time and are hardly visible, but once they are in place the rest goes much faster. The same is already visible in the Russian naval industry.

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    Post  lancelot Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:45 am

    LMFS wrote:People need to understand that building up an industry is like building a house: the foundations take most of the time and are hardly visible, but once they are in place the rest goes much faster. The same is already visible in the Russian naval industry.
    That is right. But with the exception of the Zvezda shipyard in the Far East and Sevmash in the North, Russian shipyards are still way behind the current state of the art. Just compare the production of a Japanese frigate with Project 22350 for example. The Japanese frigate spends like two years tops in dry dock before it is launched. And then another one-two years to be commissioned. The Project 22350 at best they could launch one in four years. The main difference is large block construction i.e. they spend most of the time building the ship inside climate controlled sheds. Not in an open air dry dock. Which means they can make better use of limited dry dock space.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:17 am

    You can see that in the last decade, the progress in building new ships for the VMF has greatly accelerated.

    The quality of the ships and their weapons and systems has dramatically improved too.

    Yes, they have excellent weapons, but also the shortest sailing range - and they are built by the country with the largest coastline in the world.

    They can't sail right around Russias coast... Russia is not an island like New Zealand or Australia... so hanging around each fleet and being able to sail from the Northern Fleet to the Pacific Fleet and back is all they need really.

    Just compare the production of a Japanese frigate with Project 22350 for example. The Japanese frigate spends like two years tops in dry dock before it is launched. And then another one-two years to be commissioned. The Project 22350 at best they could launch one in four years. The main difference is large block construction i.e. they spend most of the time building the ship inside climate controlled sheds. Not in an open air dry dock. Which means they can make better use of limited dry dock space.

    If they do it totally differently why bother comparing?

    How fast do they build ICBMs?

    What is their Navy budget compared with Russias?

    Japan might make ships better, but they are also led around by the nose by the US like a beast of burden, so why take tips from them?

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:47 am

    lancelot wrote:
    That is right. But with the exception of the Zvezda shipyard in the Far East and Sevmash in the North, Russian shipyards are still way behind the current state of the art. Just compare the production of a Japanese frigate with Project 22350 for example. The Japanese frigate spends like two years tops in dry dock before it is launched. And then another one-two years to be commissioned. The Project 22350 at best they could launch one in four years. The main difference is large block construction i.e. they spend most of the time building the ship inside climate controlled sheds. Not in an open air dry dock. Which means they can make better use of limited dry dock space.

    The very first viable change will be the stabilization of the chain of supplies and the workforce.
    And it should be an end result of strengthening the civilian construction programs.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:11 pm

    lancelot wrote:
    LMFS wrote:People need to understand that building up an industry is like building a house: the foundations take most of the time and are hardly visible, but once they are in place the rest goes much faster. The same is already visible in the Russian naval industry.
    That is right. But with the exception of the Zvezda shipyard in the Far East and Sevmash in the North, Russian shipyards are still way behind the current state of the art. Just compare the production of a Japanese frigate with Project 22350 for example. The Japanese frigate spends like two years tops in dry dock before it is launched. And then another one-two years to be commissioned. The Project 22350 at best they could launch one in four years. The main difference is large block construction i.e. they spend most of the time building the ship inside climate controlled sheds. Not in an open air dry dock. Which means they can make better use of limited dry dock space.


    There is no dispute that the Russian Navy is one of the 3 strongest in the world because it is true. Russia has more submarines than the entire European Union. Sevmash currently has 10 submarines under construction and two more are about to enter active status, while France and the UK have 21 nuclear submarines in total. I am in favor of building universal warships that have complete armament; anti-ship, anti-aircraft and anti-submarine. These are project 20380/5 corvettes and 22350 frigates. And while the issue of corvettes has apparently been resolved as Amur Shipyard has laid down 5 new corvettes since last August, it is not the same case with project 22350 frigates.
    Although MRK projects 21631 and 22800 have very good striking power with eight-barrel UKSK, the big problem is that they do not have a long-range air defense system (the 21631 only has a Gibka close air defense system), while anti-submarine weapons are completely absent. Well, those ships make sense as long as they are in Russian territorial waters.
    With the protection provided by the VVS with its fighter aircraft, Tu-22M3, coastal anti-ship missile systems, as well as air defense systems, the Russian Navy is more than sufficient. However, project 22350 frigates must be built in serious numbers and Russia must solve that problem in the next 2 to 3 years. Yes, I believe that this problem will be solved because those frigates are the only Russian armed units that annoy me.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Nov 10, 2022 7:09 am

    And while the issue of corvettes has apparently been resolved as Amur Shipyard has laid down 5 new corvettes since last August, it is not the same case with project 22350 frigates.

    They have project 22350 frigates in service and have fully tested them and based on those tests they are proposing an improved version... a project 22350M.... it would be very stupid to mass produce the project 22350 frigates before they have even made and tested one 22350M frigate to see if it works and if the upgrades and weight increase is worth the extra cost.

    Therefore not putting the frigates into mass production and waiting till the new design is built and can be tested makes sense, and also means the makers of the propulsion system can perfect production of the new propulsion system they are making for the new 22350 frigates and also any bigger system for larger 22350M ships too.

    They might decide the 22350 is good enough for the smaller ocean fleets (black and baltic) but they want the larger ships for the northern and pacific fleets, or they might decide the bigger ship is not worth the extra money and just make the small ones, or the bigger one is better value for money and only laid down project 22350s will be completed and all new laid down corvettes will be the heavier ship... but they wont know until they get the damn thing in the water and test it properly.

    Doing it fast is a gamble they can't afford because fucking this up would waste a lot of money and just make it all take even longer but with some useless expensive ships on the way.

    A bit like the new British destroyers that are OK for Arctic ops, but useless anywhere else where the water is not cold.

    Although MRK projects 21631 and 22800 have very good striking power with eight-barrel UKSK, the big problem is that they do not have a long-range air defense system (the 21631 only has a Gibka close air defense system), while anti-submarine weapons are completely absent.

    The corvettes of most countries do not have the same fire power and defence capacity of a British or American frigate... nor do most need that.

    Corvettes will spend most of their operational lives not using any weapons at all except in training.

    Well, those ships make sense as long as they are in Russian territorial waters.

    By definition corvettes and frigates are coastal vessels intended for local waterway defence.... some times pressed into other duties because that navy hasn't got anything better available, or because it was customised for the job like the anti piracy ships they have that should be ideal for the job at minimal cost.

    However, project 22350 frigates must be built in serious numbers and Russia must solve that problem in the next 2 to 3 years. Yes, I believe that this problem will be solved because those frigates are the only Russian armed units that annoy me.

    There is no way they could do that because the project 22350M is not getting laid down till 2024, so it will be a few sad years for you.

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    Post  Arrow Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:17 pm

    The Japanese frigate spends like two years tops in dry dock before it is launched. And then another one-two years to be commissioned. wrote:

    Japan is a maritime country. Isn't there a shipbuilding industry much more extensive than Russia?
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    Post  Hole Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:13 pm

    The difference is that 80% of their suppliers aren´t located on some island that became a different state 30 years ago and became extremly hostile in 2014.

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    Post  Isos Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:44 pm

    Japan build different classes of frigates/destroyers and its own subs in significant numbers.

    It has a far more efficient shipbuilding industry than Russia.

    However they lack the weaponery and still rely on US missiles or copies of them. Even their radar are US made.

    Russian new ships are more versatile even if they are smaller. Russian Yassen also dominates all the japanese ships with its 32 VLS and stealth.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:08 am

    It is not just about the number of missile tubes... it is also about what goes in them.

    A target 19km long is enormous... trying to defend that from air attack would be a nightmare because the attack could happen any time day or night and Kiev got likely hundreds of Harpoons and should have large numbers of its own Neptune missiles as well... a huge mass attack of low flying subsonic anti ship missiles should get dozens of hits on that bridge along its entire length... just keep launching missiles till you start getting through... low flying missiles are difficult targets...

    Yet they didn't even bother to try... maybe such missile types now need to be used in such large numbers that the fact that the US Navy has large ships with huge arrays of vertical missile tubes is not the advantage it appears just now and it wont really be an advantage till they get hypersonic missiles they can launch from those tubes.

    By which time the Russians will likely be making destroyers and perhaps cruisers with laser defence systems to defeat them... they will certainly have S-500 missiles that should have some capability by then.
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    Post  Podlodka77 Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:22 am

    New ships delivered to the Russian Navy in the last 20 years...I did not include minesweepers of project 12700 and patrol boats of project 22160 in the list.


    2000s


    1. "Tatarstan" guard hip of the project 11661, active from 31.08.2003 in Caspian flotilla (CF)
    2. "Steregushchiy" corvette of the project 20380, active from 28.02.2008 in Baltic fleet (BF)
    3. "Yaroslav Mudriy" frigate (guard ship) of the project 11540 "Yastreb", active from 19.07.2009 in BF

    2010s

    4. Soobrazitelniy (20380 corvette), active from 14.10.2011 in BF,
    5. Dagestan (11661K Guard ship), active from 28.11.2012 in CF,
    6. Boikiy (20380), active from 16.05.2013 in BF,
    7. Stoikiy (20380 corvette), active from 18.07.2014 in BF,
    8. Grad Sviyazhsk (Project 21631 small missile ship), active from 27.07.2014 in CF,
    9. Uglich (21631 SMS), active from 27.07.2014 in CF,
    10. Velikiy Ustyug (21631 SMS), active from 19.12.2014 in CF,
    11. Zeleniy Dol (21631 SMS), active from 12.12.2015 in BF,
    12. Serpuhov (21631 SMS), active from 12.12.2015 in BF,
    13. Sovershennyy (20380), active from 20.07.2017 in PF,
    14. Vyshniy Volochyok (21631 SMS), active from 01.06.2018 in BSF,
    15. Admiral Gorshkov (22350 frigate), active from 28.07.2018 in NF,
    16. Orekhovo-Zuyevo (21631 SMS), active from 10.12.2018 in BSF,
    17. Mytishchi (22800 SMS), active from 17.12.2018 in BF,
    18. Gromkiy (20380 corvette), active from 25.12.2018 in PF,
    19. Sovetsk (22800 SMS), active from 12.10.2019 in in BF,
    20. Ingushetiya (21631 SMS), active from 28.12.2019 in BSF.

    2020s


    21. Admiral Kasatonov (22350 frigate), active from 21.07.2020 in NF,
    22. Odintsovo (22800 SMS), active from 21.11.2020 in BF,
    23. Hero of the Russian Federation Aldar Tsydenzhapov (20380 corvette), active from 25.12.2020 in PF,
    24. Gremyashchiy (20385 corvette), active from 29.12.2020 in PF,
    25. Grayvoron (21631 SMS), active from 30.01.2021 in BSF.

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:19 am

    Podlodka77 wrote:New ships delivered to the Russian Navy in the last 20 years...I did not include minesweepers of project 12700 and patrol boats of project 22160 in the list.

    I'll correct you. Then there are data only on surface attack ships of the Russian Navy. Submarines, support vessels, and patrol ships are not included. The data is given in the form of the name of the ship - the cipher of the project - the year of entry into service


    Baltic fleet:
    1. Ярослав Мудрый  - 11540 - 2007
    2. Стерегущий - 20380 - 2007
    3. Сообразительный - 20380 - 2011
    4. Бойкий - 20380 - 2013
    5. Стойкий - 20380 - 2014
    6. Мытищи - 22800 - 2018
    7. Советск - 22800 - 2019
    8. Одинцово - 22800 - 2020
    9. Зеленый Дол - 21631 - 2015
    10. Серпухов - 21631 - 2015

    Northern fleet:
    11. Адмирал флота Советского Союза Горшков - 22350 - 2018
    12. Адмирал флота Советского Союза Касатонов - 22350 - 2020

    Black Sea fleet:
    13. Адмирал Григорович - 11356Р - 2016
    14. Адмирал Эссен - 11356Р - 2016
    15. Адмирал Макаров - 11356Р - 2017
    16. Вышний Волочёк - 21631 - 2018
    17. Орехово-Зуево - 21631 - 2018
    18. Ингушетия - 21631 - 2019
    19. Грайворон - 21631 - 2021

    Pacific fleet:
    20. Совершенный - 20380 - 2017
    21. Громкий - 20380 -2018
    22. Герой Российской Федерации Алдар Цыденжапов - 20380 - 2020
    23. Гремящий - 20385 - 2020

    Сaspian flotilla:
    24. Татарстан - 11661К - 2003
    25. Дагестан - 11661К - 2012
    26. Град Свияжск - 21631 - 2014
    27. Углич - 21631 - 2014
    28. Великий Устюг - 21631 - 2014

    By the end of 2022, several more attack surface ships of the main classes should enter service.

    Another 10 frigates and 15 corvettes are to be built by 2028 and are in various stages of construction.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:44 am

    Ships under construction from the date of keel laying, as well as ships launched and undergoing sea trials...

    1. Project 22350 frigate "Admiral Golovko", laid down on 01.02.2012; SEA TRIALS,
    2. Project 20385 corvette "Prvovorniy", laid down on 25.07.2013; Under construction,
    3. Project 22350 frigate "Admiral Isakov", laid down on 14.11.2013; Under construction,
    4. Project 20380 corvette "Merkuriy", laid down on 20.02.2015; SEA TRIALS,
    5. Project 20380 corvette "Strogiy", laid down on 20.02.2015; Under construction,
    6. Project 22800 small missile ship (SMS) "Kozelsk", laid down on 10.05.2016; Launched,
    7. Project 20380 corvette "Rezkiy", laid down on 01.06.2016; SEA TRIALS,
    8. Project 22800 small missile ship "Tsiklon", laid down on 26.07.2016; SEA TRIALS,
    9. Project 22800 small missile ship "Askold", laid down on 21.09.2016; SEA TRIALS,
    10.Project 22800 small missile ship "Burya", laid down on 23.10.2016; SEA TRIALS,
    11.Project 20386 corvette "Derzkiy", laid down on 28.10.2016, Under construction, launched
    12. Project 22800 small missile ship "Okhotsk", laid down on 17.03.2017; Under construction,
    13. Project 23350 icebreaking patrol ship "Ivan Papanin", laid down on 19.04.2017; launched,
    14. Project 21631 small missile ship "Grad", laid down on 24.04.2017; SEA TRIALS,
    15. Project 22800 small missile ship "Amur" , laid down on 30.07.2017; Under construction, launched,
    16. Project 22800 small missile ship "Vikhr", laid down on 19.12.2017; launched,
    17. Project 21631 small missile ship "Naro-Fominsk", laid down on 23.02.2018; UC,
    18. Project 21631 small missile ship "Stavroplo", laid down on 12.07.2018; UC,
    19. Project 22800 "Tucha", laid down on 26.02.2019; UC,
    20. Project 22350 "Admiral Amelko", laid down on 23.04.2019; UC,
    21. Project 22350 "Admiral Chichagov", laid down on 23.04.2019; UC,
    22. Project 22800 "Rzhev", laid down on 01.07.2019; UC,
    23. Project 22800 "Udomlya", 01.07.2019; UC,
    24. Project 22800 "Taifun", 11.09.2019; UC,
    25. Project 23350 "Nikolai Zubov", 26.11.2019; UC,
    26. Project 22800 "Ussuriysk", 26.12.2019; UC,

    27. Project 22350 "Admiral Spiridonov", 20.07.2020; UC,
    28. Project 22350 "Admiral Yumashev", 20.07.2020; UC,
    29. Project 22800 "Pavlovsk", 29.07.2020; UC,
    30. Project 20385 "Buiniy", 23.08.2021; UC,
    31. Project 20380 "Grozniy", 23.08.2021; UC,
    32. Project 20380 "Braviy", 29.09.2021; UC,
    33. Project 20385 "Razumny", 12.06.2022; UC,
    34. Project 20385 "Bystriy", 04.07.2022; UC

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:53 am

    From the oldest to the youngest diesel-electric submarines in the Russian Navy.

    1980s
    1. B-806 "Dmitrov" (project 877), active in BF from 25.09.1986 or 36 years, 2 months, 3 days
    2. B-394 "Nurlat (877); active in PF from 30.12.1988 or 33 years, 10 months, 29 days,
    3. B-800 "Kaluga" (877); active in NF from 30.09.1989 or 33 years, 1 month, 29.

    1990s
    4. B-464 "Ust-Kamchhatsk" (877), active in PF from 30.01.1990 or 32 years, 9 months, 29 days,
    5. B-459 "Vladikavkaz" (877), active in NF from 28.09.1990 or 32 years, 2 months,
    6. B-871 "Alrosa" (877V), active in BSF from 01.12.1990 or 31 years, 11 months, 27 days,
    7. B-494 "Ust'-Bolsheretsk" (877) active in PF from 30.12.1990 or 31 years, 10 months, 29 days,
    8. B-471 "Magnitorosk" (877) active in NF from 04.02.1991 or 31 years, 9 months, 24 days,
    9. B-187 "Komsomolsk-on-Amur" (877); active in PF from 30.12.1991 or 30 years, 10 months, 29 days ,
    10.B-117 "Lipetsk"; active from (877); 31.12.1991 in NF or 30 years, 10 months, 28 days,
    11.B-190 "Krasnokamensk" (877) ; active from 30.12.1992 or 29 years, 10 months, 29 days.

    2010s

    12.B-585 "Sankt Peterburg" (Project 677); active in NF from 08.05.2010 or 12 years, 6 months, 20 days,
    13.B-261 "Novorossiysk" (636.3) ; active in BSF from 22.08.2014 or 8 years, 3 months, 6 days,
    14.B-237 "Rostov-on-Don" (636.3); actvie in BSF from 30.12.2014 or 7 years, 10 months, 29 days,
    15.B-262 "Stary Oskol" (636.3); active in BSF from 03.07.2015 or 7 years, 4 months, 25 days,
    16.B-265 "Krasnodar" (636.3); active in BSF from 05.11.2015 or 7 years, 23 days,
    17.B-268 "Veliky Novgorod" (636.3); active in BSF from 26.10.2016 or 6 years, 1 month, 2 days,
    18.B-271 "Kolpino" (636.3); active in BSF from 24.11.2016 or 6 years, 4 days ,
    19.B-274 "Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky" (636.3); active in PF from 25.11.2019 or 3 years, 3 days.

    2020s

    20.B-603 "Volkhov" (636.3); active in PF from 24.10.2020 or 2 years, 1 month, 4 days,
    21.B-602 "Magadan" (636.3); active in PF from 12.10.2021 or 1 year, 1 month, 16 days,
    22.B-588 "Ufa" (636.3); active in PF from 16.11.2022 or 12 days...


    Under construction, submarines launched or before commissioning;

    * B-586 "Kronshtadt" (677); under construction from 28.07.2005; Sea trials,
    * B-587 "Velikiye Luki" (677); UC from 19.03.2016,
    * B-XXX "Mozhaysk" (636.3); UC from 23.08.2021, it will be launched by March next year,
    * B-XXX "Yakutsk" (636.3); UC from 23.08.2021,
    * B-XXX "Vologda" (677); UC from 12.06.2022,
    * B-XXX "Yaroslavl" (677); UC from 12.06.2022.

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    Post  AMCXXL Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:06 pm

    Podlodka77
    2. B-394 "Nurlat (877); active in PF from 30.12.1988 or 33 years, 10 months, 29 days,
    4. B-464 "Ust-Kamchhatsk" (877), active in PF from 30.01.1990 or 32 years, 9 months, 29 days,

    7. B-494 "Ust'-Bolsheretsk" (877) active in PF from 30.12.1990 or 31 years, 10 months, 29 days,
    9. B-187 "Komsomolsk-on-Amur" (877); active in PF from 30.12.1991 or 30 years, 10 months, 29 days ,
    11.B-190 "Krasnokamensk" (877) ; active in PF from 30.12.1992 or 29 years, 10 months, 29 days.

    According to Navy Korabel the "Nurlat" and the "Ust-Kamchatka" are out of order, they are only removed from the list when there is official confirmation of the withdrawal from the Navy

    This is logical because the 19th division is made up of 6 submarines and has already received 4 new 636.3
    Therefore the arrival of the 4th new submarine this month to the 19th division means the withdrawal of one of the remaining 3, whose crew has gone to "Ufa"

    In any case, there were plans to reopen a new SSK division in Kamchatka, so it would not be unusual for these submarines to be put back into operation while waiting for the pr.677 for the Pacific Fleet, which will still take until the 2030s.

    12.B-585 "Sankt Peterburg" (Project 677); active in NF from 08.05.2010 or 12 years, 6 months, 20 days

    On April 22, 2010, an act was signed on the acceptance of the B-585 "St. Petersburg" into trial operation in the Russian Navy [9].
    The boat was accepted for trial operation with an unfinished HED (it developed 60% of its power) and flaws in other systems.

    In November 2011, the Main Headquarters of the Navy announced the curtailment of the test program of the Lada project [11]. According to the final decision, the St. Petersburg fleet will not be accepted into the combat fleet[11]
    The submarine took part in the celebration of the Day of the Navy from 2010 to 2013 in St. Petersburg, in the summer of 2013 was transferred to the Severodvinsk  to complete the trial operation program

    On September 21, 2021, trial operation was completed, which lasted from 05/08/2010 and the submarine entered the combat structure of the 161st BrPL KFLRS Northern Fleet of the Russian Navy

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:32 pm

    To AMCXXL

    I wouldn't rely too much on Navykorabel.ru as an extremely reliable source of information, as I think Deepstorm.ru is far more reliable about the Russian submarine fleet.
    Navykorabel.ru also deals with "prophecy" (building plans), while Deepstorm.ru does not. Very Happy
    Submarine "Nurlat" underwent a detailed overhaul from 2015-2019 and is still in the composition of the fleet, the same as B-464. If a submarine is not active (officially or unofficially), that still does not mean it is OFFICIALLY decommissioned.

    http://www.deepstorm.ru/DeepStorm.files/45-92/dts/877/list.htm

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