Russia's 6th-generation fighters

MOSCOW, 2 Mar – RIA Novosti. Russia is working on creation of a fighter of the seventh generation, said on Wednesday the commander of the aerospace defence forces Colonel-General Viktor Bondarev.
Currently in service with the Russian armed forces are only the fighters of 4++ generation, on-going testing of the aircraft T-50 (project PAK FA) fifth generation. Only one country in the world is armed with fifth-generation fighter — U.S. F-22 and F-35.
"If we stop now, then stop forever. (Go) work a sixth and probably a seventh (generation). To say much have no rights," — said Bondarev, responding to a question about the works on creation of the fighter of the sixth generation.


http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160302/1382950440.html

PapaDragon wrote:
Does anyone even know what 6th and 7th gen planes are supposed to be? Does even Lockheed-Martin know? (other that it is should cost sh*tload of moneys that is....)

PapaDragon wrote:
Does anyone even know what 6th and 7th gen planes are supposed to be? Does even Lockheed-Martin know? (other that it is should cost sh*tload of moneys that is....)

Militarov wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Does anyone even know what 6th and 7th gen planes are supposed to be? Does even Lockheed-Martin know? (other that it is should cost sh*tload of moneys that is....)

For 6th generation they say ADVENT or pulse engines, possible integration of high power laser weapons, increased range and general kinetic performance, net-centricity and human systems integration and even better situational awareness compared to 5th gen.

Militarov wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Does anyone even know what 6th and 7th gen planes are supposed to be? Does even Lockheed-Martin know? (other that it is should cost sh*tload of moneys that is....)

For 6th generation they say ADVENT or pulse engines, possible integration of high power laser weapons, increased range and general kinetic performance, net-centricity and human systems integration and even better situational awareness compared to 5th gen.

Zivo wrote:

Militarov wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
Does anyone even know what 6th and 7th gen planes are supposed to be? Does even Lockheed-Martin know? (other that it is should cost sh*tload of moneys that is....)

For 6th generation they say ADVENT or pulse engines, possible integration of high power laser weapons, increased range and general kinetic performance, net-centricity and human systems integration and even better situational awareness compared to 5th gen.

A lot of peoples suggestions just look like 5.5+ gen designs.

IMO, 6th gen aircraft will be Mach 3-4, but not quite hypersonic large missile trucks with big photonic radars. They will carry a payload of hypersonic scramjet missiles, that will use the aircraft's initial velocity to get the airflow necessary to fire the scamjet engines. This way the 6th gen fighter/interceptor itself doesn't need to deal with the complexities of hypersonic flight and fall back on proven technology, but can still utilize hypersonic missiles.

Viktor wrote:This could be it - not sure

2016sixth-generation Russian aircraft will hypersonic

MOSCOW, June 9th. / TASS /. Russian combat aircraft will be the sixth generation of hypersonic, his prototype made its first flight until 2025, he told Tass on Thursday the head of the directorate of military aircraft of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) Vladimir Mikhailov programs.

"Experienced sixth generation aircraft made its first flight pattern before 2025 it will rise into the air, as we plan, no later than two -. Three years after the 2020 th", - said the source.

Mikhailov, who previously held the post of commander in chief of the Russian Air Force, said that the appearance of long-term aircraft is already defined. "It will be a hypersonic at several Makhov, Single, invisible to the enemy, super-maneuverable, multifunctional, made of composite materials. The aircraft will have a booth, but he will be able to fly as a pilot in it, and without it, that is, he he will combine and manned and unmanned variant ", - said the representative of the KLA, noting that the development is planned to equip long-range hypersonic missiles.

According to Mikhailov, the sixth-generation aircraft have conducted research projects, including engineering design.

In early March the commander of aerospace forces of Russia Viktor Bondarev said that work is underway over the manned and unmanned versions of the sixth-generation aircraft in Russia. He did not specify how many years you may need to create an unmanned aircraft, but made it clear that it is not the next few years. At the same time Deputy Prime Minister of Russia Dmitry Rogozin said that the Sukhoi Design Bureau presented the first design for the sixth-generation fighter. In 2014, the KLA stated that the first such aircraft will be built in the second half of the 2020s.


Подробнее на ТАСС:
http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/3351096

Mindstorm wrote:
Very good interview with Владимир Михеев, CEO of КРЭТ on the conceptual design and technological pact to the next generation aircraft.

Interesting the position on the necessity of an unmanned vehicle not only for the hypersonic speed, very high G maeuvrabilioty and exoatmospheric flight requirements ,but also for the integration of HF microwave weapons with MW output aginst which wouldn't be possible to provide to an human pilot the necessary shielding.    



http://tass.ru/opinions/interviews/3440871

RTN wrote: I found the abridged English version on RT

RTN wrote: Isn't Russia working on new stealth tech? Here in the US,Lockheed & Boeing are working on next gen stealth for the 6th gen fighter.

Russia has created a combined jet-rocket engine to fly in the atmosphere and in near space, said TASS , the commander of the strategic Missile forces Sergei Karakayev. The powerplant will show on the forum "Army 2016".

- In the Serpukhov branch of the Academy of strategic missile forces named after Peter the Great designed the engine for advanced aerospace aircraft. The combined power plant has two modes of operation: air for flight in the atmosphere and rocket to near space, - said Karakayev.

According to the commander, a model of the new engine was test firing confirmed its efficiency and will be presented at a military forum in Kubinka. Earlier, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin announced the beginning of work on combat aircraft of the sixth generation. One of its main features is the ability to fly in near space at hypersonic speeds.

The aircraft is being developed in manned and unmanned variants. Robotic fighter will be equipped with a powerful electromagnetic weapon to incapacitate electronic systems of the enemy. Some elements of the avionics of the aircraft of the future are already run-in on the fifth generation fighter PAK FA. His successor will make the first flight early next decade.

In the unmanned version of the Russian fighter of the sixth generation will receive electromagnetic guns that can completely disable enemy electronics, reported TASS the representative of the Advisor to the first Deputy head of the concern "Radioelectronic technologies" Vladimir Mikheev. Effective microwave weapons, according to him, already exists and is capable of hitting targets at distances of tens of kilometers.

- The sixth generation fighters - this will be aircraft that combines supersonic speed flight, low visibility, high security, artificial intelligence for group work and the most modern weapons - including electromagnetic, - said Mikheev.

Microwave weapons forms a directional electromagnetic pulse that's capable of long distance incapacitate a complex electronic device - for example, radar or missile guidance system. Existing now in Russia railguns can disable the enemy electronics for a while. The development of this technology will lead to the fact that the effect of microwave weapons will destroy the circuitry of the target, i.e., withdraw it from the system.

The use of microwave weapons on manned technique is problematic - a powerful electromagnetic pulse can easily kill the pilot. Therefore, these guns will arm an unmanned version of the fighter. Working on combat aircraft of the sixth generation is already underway. In particular, it, electronics are processed on the fifth generation aircraft T-50 (PAK FA). "Aircraft of the sixth generation will receive a unified electronic warfare system, in which one and the same instrument and radar and electronic warfare, and data transfer system, performing also the functions of navigation and hoopsnake. Radar, the PAK FA could also work for intelligence and electronic warfare, and electronic warfare system, in turn, is radar. That is, the integration and redistribution of functions already happening," - said Mikheyev.

According to the head of the Directorate of military aviation programs of the United aircraft Corporation Vladimir Mikhailov, the Russian fighter of the future will rise into the air at the beginning of the next decade. It will be a single, invisible to the enemy aircraft made of composite materials, capable of flying at speeds of several Mach and armed with hypersonic missiles. Being developed in parallel manned and unmanned variants.

Big_Gazza wrote:

GunshipDemocracy wrote:
talking about  similarities

MiG-105 design - end of 60s

hyper modern US invention Dream Chaser! Damn Ruskies blatantly copied almost 40 years earlier US design

Don't forget about the BOR-4 lifting body sub-scale vehicle developed to test thermal protection technologies for the Buran shuttle.