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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:05 am

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    Poroshenko was photographed by tourists on the International Women's Day shopping and driving in Spain, where he reportedly has an undeclared villa. The presidential administration confirmed his secret visit to Spain.

    http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2016/04/15/7105679/

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    Post  VARGR198 Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:49 am

    Ukrainians selling Humvee to LPR


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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:36 am

    VARGR198 wrote:Ukrainians selling Humvee to LPR

    Yes, sanction Laughing Laughing Laughing
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    Post  auslander Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:48 pm

    A dream came true today. We are in Moscow for another couple days and today being Sunday we could not work on the tasks we need to address here so we went to a model tank meet. We know all the tankers and are staying with one while here.

    Around noon I was standing with my lass as she was photoing beside the tank courses on the member side of the ropes and I heard someone speak English. I turned and this thirtyish man with an attractive lady on his arm was standing their so I asked him if he spoke English and he said yes and volunteered that he is Itailian and works with the Italian Embassy in Moscow. He then asked where I was from about the time my charming bride joined us. I used the Russian pronounciation of the city and he looked a little puzzled so I then told him where the city is and that we understood that his country did not like us. He then stated "But the referendum wasn't...."and that's as far as he got before Ye'lean'chka unloaded on him with both barrels and in perfect English. I had no idea she knew so many Italian slurs and she actually used a not too pretty peice of Italian Mat to him, all in a very steady and calm voice and at the end she told him what he and all his Italian embassy friends do with the reproductive organs of various NATO and DC functionaries whilst the embassy folks are on their knees kneeling to thier masters. The blood was ankle deep and a few of the tankers and standers by were laughing at the discomfited Itailan as he beat a hasty retreat.

    All in all a pretty good day. Now, if I can just run in to some OSCE putz soon.......
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:46 pm

    ^^ Fun times Very Happy
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:22 am

    From Fortrus

    Three Mi-24P combat helicopters have returned to Ukraine from Liberia due to the reduction of the UN mission, said the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine on Saturday, reports RIA Novosti.

    "In connection with the reduction of the UN mission in Liberia, there has been an optimization of the 56th separate helicopter detachment, which performed a task in the mission in the country. Thus, a special flight of the transport aircraft AN-124 "Ruslan" returned three Mi-24P combat helicopters to Ukraine," stated the message.

    According to authorities, after the restoration and preventive works carried out by the specialists in parts of the UAF aviation, all three Mi-24P aircraft will be used for training flights and combat missions in the composition of the Air forces of Ukraine, including, if necessary, in the zone of the military operation in Donbass.
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    Post  Guest Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:34 pm

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    Crater from 203mm shell from Pion 2S7 fired by Ukrainians on NAF positions near Avdeevka. Ze big guns are in place.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:36 pm

    Wtf is this sh**? They really want another go?

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    Post  Guest Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:41 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Wtf is this sh**? They really want another go?


    Seems. There are ppl reporting on Twitter that more overhauled older high caliber artillery pieces have been seen towed towards Donbass. Seems they have nearly 100 Pions now...tho i am not sure about ammunition, they will have to start producing it again if they plan on feeding all those bores.
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    Post  ultron Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:01 pm

    Big if true. It would appear Putin keeps making concessions to his western enemies.

    https://twitter.com/CrazyPsyKO/status/722394209005760512
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    Post  Guest Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:40 pm

    Počuča:

    Serbian volonteur, Radomir Počuča said he cut a deal with the Public Prosecution of Serbia for his participation in the conflict in Ukraine and sentenced to a year and a half in prison, and four years of parole.

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    Source: http://www.novosti.rs/vesti/naslovna/hronika/aktuelno.291.html:601561-Pocuca-se-nagodio-zbog-ucesca-u-sukobu-u-Ukrajini

    "Translated": https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.novosti.rs%2Fvesti%2Fnaslovna%2Fhronika%2Faktuelno.291.html%3A601561-Pocuca-se-nagodio-zbog-ucesca-u-sukobu-u-Ukrajini&edit-text=
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:08 pm

    Wat? Serbia has a universal authority legislation?

    While I understand that an extradition inquiry from Ukraine could be received and granted, what crimes has he committed in Serbia exactly? If I understand this well, the law was recently introduced in Serbian Criminal code? So is he being retroactively pursued? And how can the Serbian Public Prosecution prove he was indeed fighting?

    Balkanics not being able to export the know-how...oh how the mighty have fallen. We have two cases in Albania, but both were released (Macedonian 2001 "situation"). Also Kosovo has given 7 months to UCK people for the same issue.

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    Post  Guest Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:21 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Wat? Serbia has a universal authority legislation?

    While I understand that an extradition inquiry from Ukraine could be received and granted, what crimes has he committed in Serbia exactly? If I understand this well, the law was recently introduced in Serbian Criminal code? So is he being retroactively pursued? And how can the Serbian Public Prosecution prove he was indeed fighting?

    Balkanics not being able to export the know-how...oh how the mighty have fallen. We have two cases in Albania, but both were released (Macedonian 2001 "situation"). Also Kosovo has given 7 months to UCK people for the same issue.


    After Ukraine he went to Moscow, and then was arrested while trying to enter Serbia few weeks ago, and he was released to defend from freedom.

    Yeah, but seems that he can be retroactively prosecuted by this law. This was trial for both Ukraine and his previous "crime" when he bashed NVO Women in Black organisation in Serbia when he called for people to beat the crap out of them.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:40 pm

    Nothing on this at Doni, just DNR reporting about 500

    According to OSCE, the ceasefire regime in Donbass was violated 4,700 times in 24 hours, and heavy weapons were again being used.

    MINSK (Sputnik) — The ceasefire regime in eastern Ukraine was violated 4,700 times in 24 hours, OSCE's representative at the Trilateral Contact Group Martin Sajdik said Wednesday. Addressing reporters in Minsk, Sajdik stated that both sides were violating the ceasefire and heavy weapons were again being used.

    Kiev has been conducting a military operation against Donbass independence supporters since spring 2014, when they refused to recognize the new coup-imposed Ukrainian government and declared sovereignty. The Minsk deal on Ukraine's reconciliation was struck in February 2015 by Russia, Ukraine, Germany and France and later signed by Kiev and the Donbass self-proclaimed republics of Donetsk and Lugansk. Both warring parties have repeatedly accused each other of violating the truce despite agreeing to the ceasefire deal.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160420/1038336099/donbass-ceasefire-osce.html#ixzz46NheMVGZ


    But there is this bit in today's update

    Besides, our intelligence registered the facts of skirmishes between the nationalists and the military of the 90th airmobile brigade of the 81st separate airmobile brigade of the AFU in this area. In particular, on April 18, the military of the 81st airmobile brigade in the area of the Yasinovataya junction fired at the ‘Ural’ vehicle with nationalist fighters, as a result nine personnel died and 22 got wounded. The shooting was caused by the appearance of a cargo vehicle from the direction of the line of fighting contact at night. As it turned out later, the nationalist fighters had got lost being in the state of drug intoxication and moved first to the contact line and then backwards.

    After this incident there is registered aggravation of contradictions between the nationalists and paratroopers of the AFU. In particular, according to our intelligence, yesterday, near the locality of Avdeyevka, in violation of the silence regime the nationalists opened massive fire both against the DPR Armed Forces’ positions and the positions of the 81st airmobile brigade. As a result of the firefight the Ukrainian paratroopers sustained losses. Only in the 90th airmobile battalion of the 81st separate airmobile brigade there got wounded up to 15 personnel, information on the dead is being specified.


    https://dninews.com/article/donetsk-defense-situation-report-20042016
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:54 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:Wat? Serbia has a universal authority legislation?

    While I understand that an extradition inquiry from Ukraine could be received and granted, what crimes has he committed in Serbia exactly? If I understand this well, the law was recently introduced in Serbian Criminal code? So is he being retroactively pursued? And how can the Serbian Public Prosecution prove he was indeed fighting?

    Balkanics not being able to export the know-how...oh how the mighty have fallen. We have two cases in Albania, but both were released (Macedonian 2001 "situation"). Also Kosovo has given 7 months to UCK people for the same issue.


    After Ukraine he went to Moscow, and then was arrested while trying to enter Serbia few weeks ago, and he was released to defend from freedom.

    Yeah, but seems that he can be retroactively prosecuted by this law. This was trial for both Ukraine and his previous "crime" when he bashed NVO Women in Black organisation in Serbia when he called for people to beat the crap out of them.

    Well...there's some fine Rule of law type of thingie...
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    Post  Ispan Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:31 pm

    Just finished the update about yesterday fighting. It was one of the worst days in this year. Did something happen or not happen today? The other Spanish guy that is reporting daily says he has been unable to find any news items about today in the usual sites. Calm before the storm? Or just same daily grind and people being too busy fighting to post?
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    Post  sepheronx Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:10 am

    Wanna update us on yesterdays fighting?

    As for those british troops - leading the those Ukrainian kids to doom.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:34 am

    Ispan wrote:Just finished the update about yesterday fighting. It was one of the worst days in this year. Did something happen or not happen today? The other Spanish guy that is reporting daily says he has been unable to find any news items about today in the usual sites. Calm before the storm? Or just same daily grind and people being too busy fighting to post?

    Whatever you have put it up
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:23 am

    Does anybody have any idea how many Ukrainians disagree with the Kiev government, and what is going on in Ukraine today. Not happy. In Western Ukraine, not the Donbass. ??? especially the finances of everyday people decreasing so much, and the fact that it will probably take 25 years to get back to the economy of 2008. Not to mention all of the draconian stupid laws...

    I suspect more than a few...altho I get the feeling it isn't healthy to disagree openly nor about everything.
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    Post  ExBeobachter1987 Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:27 am

    Cowboy's daughter wrote:Does anybody have any idea how many Ukrainians disagree with the Kiev government, and what is going on in Ukraine today. Not happy. In Western Ukraine, not the Donbass. ??? especially the finances of everyday people decreasing so much, and the fact that it will probably take 25 years to get back to the economy of 2008. Not to mention all of the draconian stupid laws...

    I suspect more than a few...altho I get the feeling it isn't healthy to disagree openly nor about everything.

    Dynamics of Socio-Political Attitudes in Ukraine: March 2016
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    Post  Ispan Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:27 am

    sepheronx wrote:Wanna update us on yesterdays fighting?

    Check my blog on my signature using google translate. I believe it's more readable than going to Russian sources

    No ceasefire yesterday, april 20, Lugansk was quiet on the 19. During the night a lot of reports came in, seems things only getting worse.

    DPR delegation in Minsk stated a threefold increase in number of AFU attacks

    https://dninews.com/article/dpr-delegation-minsk-stated-threefold-increase-number-afu-attacks

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    Post  Erk Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:21 am

    Yats gets the flick, replaced by another Jewish Neocon puppet, Volodymyr Groysman.

    Same old same old...
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    Post  sepheronx Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:53 pm

    ExBeobachter1987 wrote:
    Cowboy's daughter wrote:Does anybody have any idea how many Ukrainians disagree with the Kiev government, and what is going on in Ukraine today. Not happy. In Western Ukraine, not the Donbass. ??? especially the finances of everyday people decreasing so much, and the fact that it will probably take 25 years to get back to the economy of 2008. Not to mention all of the draconian stupid laws...

    I suspect more than a few...altho I get the feeling it isn't healthy to disagree openly nor about everything.

    Dynamics of Socio-Political Attitudes in Ukraine: March 2016

    Funded by the republicans, .ua website and mentions about Crimea as occupied. I think we need another source.
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    Post  ExBeobachter1987 Thu Apr 21, 2016 4:12 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    ExBeobachter1987 wrote:
    Cowboy's daughter wrote:Does anybody have any idea how many Ukrainians disagree with the Kiev government, and what is going on in Ukraine today. Not happy. In Western Ukraine, not the Donbass. ??? especially the finances of everyday people decreasing so much, and the fact that it will probably take 25 years to get back to the economy of 2008. Not to mention all of the draconian stupid laws...

    I suspect more than a few...altho I get the feeling it isn't healthy to disagree openly nor about everything.

    Dynamics of Socio-Political Attitudes in Ukraine: March 2016

    Funded by the republicans, .ua website and mentions about Crimea as occupied. I think we need another source.

    Have you seen what the survey says?
    Even this source admits that Ukrainian people are now more pessimistic about the future of Ukraine than in Yanuk's era or how little Ukrainian executive and legislative are approved by the questioned people.

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