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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:50 pm

    Ukraina Prime Minister's aircraft (a Tu-134) caught a fire on 27 March 2016.

    Seems like the aircraft was protesting against Asswenuts Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes

    http://antikor.com.ua/articles/95151-v_borispole_sgorel_samolet_premjer-ministra_ukrainy

    And, by the way, democrazy is reaching another new level in Maidanist Ukraina

    https://www.rt.com/news/337728-ukraine-bans-russian-movies/

    The Ukrainian parliament has banned all Russian films released after January 1, 2014, saying the move is aimed at improving “national security.”

    The ban is an amendment to the Law on Cinematography that was adopted by the Ukrainian parliament in 2015.

    Some 237 Rada (Ukrainian parliament) deputies voted in favor of the new measure.
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    Post  Ispan Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:05 pm

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    #Donbass #Avdeevka #Yasinovataya #Makeevka Some reports say the Ukrop is using Tulip & Peony (240/203mm) s.p. artil.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:14 pm

    From Interfax

    Ukrainian Defense Minister Stepan Poltorak reports that 6,000 active servicemen out of the planned 45,000 were called up for military service during the fourth wave of partial mobilization have been transferred to the reserve as of today.
    "The fourth round of demobilization of those 45,000 who have served their service is to begin in April… At the moment, we've dismissed 6,000 soldiers already, in the first 10 days we plan to dismiss 18,000 servicemen, and the demobilization is to be completed by the end of April," Poltorak said at a government meeting on Wednesday.
    He also noted that a number of troops who choose to serve in the Ukrainian army on a contractual basis had grown following the increase in military's allowances.
    "Due to the work done and an increase in the allowances, I'd like to report that 18,000 soldiers are serving on a contractual basis since the start of this year. This is compared to last year when we had 200-300 contract soldiers per month," he said.
    The positive dynamics remain unchanged. Preference is given to candidates who have combat experience, he added.


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    Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has given 60 emergency vehicles to departments of Donetsk Regional center for emergency medical care and catastrophe response. "As of today, these vehicles should on the roads saving the lives of residents of our Kramatorsk and other cities of our Donbas," the president said at a meeting with medical workers in Kramatorsk.
    Around 170 emergency teams in Donetsk region respond to around 1,500 calls daily, Poroshenko said. Overall, there are seven emergency medical care stations on the Ukrainian territory of Donetsk region. According to the presidential website, one ambulances is specifically equipped for newborn babies, while other 59 vehicles are of general purpose.
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    Post  Ispan Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:48 pm

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    Again these strange maneuvers. Does not make sense at all, unless they have given up on the idea of bombarding Crimea and are pulling back the artillery to use it in Donbass. From Nikolaev there is a rail line to Volnovakha
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    Post  Khepesh Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:52 pm

    About the "Shadow government" http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2680345.html
    Bild have said they have access to documents that prove that Zakharchenko and Plotnitsky are puppets and that the real government in DNR and LNR is composed of Russian government figures. Wow! how amazing, I never guessed.... Sleep

    Anyway, this "scoop" can be seen as part of orchestrated media campaign to present a case for force to be used by Kiev. Minsk is dead, ultimately not needed by Kiev or Moscow, and it just remains to be seen how many moves are left on the board before war, not many, maybe one.
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    Post  Khepesh Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:34 pm

    About the defences at Avdeevka/Yasinovataya intersection and along the road http://cassad.net/hroniki-cigr/25659-voenekspert-pogovorim-o-fortifikacii.html

    Last week Basurin was escorting some journalists to the blockpost when they came under mortar fire. Vladimir Orlov criticised the defences at that position, saying they were inadequate, almost non existant. I made a post about this and said it was ridiculous to make an assesment from a few seconds of TV coverage, and that the blockpost itself is really only a traffic police post and that the real defences are further away. Senior commanders of VSN 1st Korps have heavily criticised Orlov for his remarks and explained that the entire 3 or so km of road in question is properly defended. The link is to Orlov's reply, in which he apologises, tho does point out some faults in the defensives. The reason I posted the link is not to read about any arguments, but to read Orlov's very detailed analyis of the defences at that part of the front and of ukrops forces and positions. He does not give away any secrets as all the information can be obtained from maps and sources available to all. Even if the translator is needed, this article is very useful for an understanding of the defences and ukrops forces and positions. He gives lists of all known ukrops forces and many maps and satellite photos. What this does is also confirm that ukrops forces in just that small section of front are very considerable.

    Also seems that "Somali" have moved not just into Makeevka, but also Yasinovataya, possibly Motorola with "Sparta".
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:59 pm

    Khepesh wrote:About the "Shadow government" http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2680345.html
    Bild have said they have access to documents that prove that Zakharchenko and Plotnitsky are puppets and that the real government in DNR and LNR is composed of Russian government figures. Wow! how amazing, I never guessed.... Sleep

    Anyway, this "scoop" can be seen as part of orchestrated media campaign to present a case for force to be used by Kiev. Minsk is dead, ultimately not needed by Kiev or Moscow, and it just remains to be seen how many moves are left on the board before war, not many, maybe one.

    So their case for use of force in this case is that they would be using force against actual Russians? Suspect

    Someone please remind me why do I still pay subscription for Comedy Central... pwnd lol1
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    Post  Ispan Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:02 pm

    Mre reports, I edited and translated them into Spanish in my blog, but you all can read it straight here though they are awkward.

    By the way, anyone can find the original and tell me what LNG stands for? is a type of weapon but not sure wich.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:07 am

    Bit of optimism in Kiev. Didn't they get the message that the horse had already bolted?

    Ukraine could resume power supply to occupied Crimea using three restored 330 kV power transmission lines within several hours if the relevant agreements are reached, acting Head of National Energy Company Ukrenergo Vsevolod Kovalchuk said in Kyiv on Wednesday.

    He said that all the pylons of the power lines have been restored and it could take several hours to connect them. "These [three lines] have been restored in full. All destroyed pylons and wires were replaced. The stubs on the anchor pylons near the administrative border with Crimea are cut off," Kovalchuk said.

    He said that Ukrenergo jointly with Khersonoblenergo are working on switching the fourth power line Kakhovska-Tytan from 150 kV to 220 kV. It can be also used to transmit electricity to Crimea.

    Ukrenergo seeks to complete the switch work before June 1 and Khersonoblenergo – before June 15, 2016.
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    Post  sepheronx Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:41 am

    JohninMK wrote:Bit of optimism in Kiev. Didn't they get the message that the horse had already bolted?

    Ukraine could resume power supply to occupied Crimea using three restored 330 kV power transmission lines within several hours if the relevant agreements are reached, acting Head of National Energy Company Ukrenergo Vsevolod Kovalchuk said in Kyiv on Wednesday.

    He said that all the pylons of the power lines have been restored and it could take several hours to connect them. "These [three lines] have been restored in full. All destroyed pylons and wires were replaced. The stubs on the anchor pylons near the administrative border with Crimea are cut off," Kovalchuk said.

    He said that Ukrenergo jointly with Khersonoblenergo are working on switching the fourth power line Kakhovska-Tytan from 150 kV to 220 kV. It can be also used to transmit electricity to Crimea.

    Ukrenergo seeks to complete the switch work before June 1 and Khersonoblenergo – before June 15, 2016.

    It isn't optimism. It is them trying to make it look like they are attempting to give a damn about Crimeans so they can continue the charade that Crimea belongs to them line. It really is just a whole lot of bullshit and they are really stupid and incompetent to try to play that game as everyone plus their dogs know it is BS.
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    Post  Khepesh Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:22 am

    This morning ukrops fired MLRS, type not known yet. into Zaitsevo, Golmovsky and northern Gorlovka wounding civilians and cutting power http://dan-news.info/defence/vsu-obstrelyali-iz-rszo-severnyj-prigorod-gorlovki-ranen-mirnyj-zhitel-istochnik.html
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:02 pm

    Poro is bowing to his masters, pleading again

    Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko says he does not understand the international community's reluctance to provide weapons to Ukraine. "Yet, I could never explain one thing to myself and to my compatriots – reluctance of the international community to supply weapons to the legitimate Ukrainian government and regular Ukrainian army which holds the line against attack on the international order," the president said at the 'Ukraine's Battle for Freedom Continues' forum in Washington on Thursday. "I think it is time to revisit this attitude. Every effort applied to protect Ukraine is an investment into long-term security of the West and sustainability of democratic values," he said.

    Then it was


    Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko claims Russia's leaders are seeking to deploy nuclear weapons in the temporarily occupied Crimea. "Russia heavily militarizes Crimea. It seeks to deploy nuclear weapons there, too. This is Russia's understanding of security in the region," the president said at the 'Ukraine's Battle for Freedom Continues' forum in Washington on Thursday.

    He said that Ukraine in 1994 abandoned the third largest nuclear weapons arsenal and received guarantees of the signatories to the Budapest Memorandum in response. "We received security assurances under the 1994 Budapest Memorandum about sovereignty, territorial integrity and independence of my country. Very clear. Give up nuclear weapons and receive security guarantee. Sounds good, but what has it turned to be in reality? Russia simply defied its assurances to Ukraine and committed a direct armed aggression against my state," he said.

    The president also criticized human rights violations in the Russian-occupied Crimea. "The occupation regime targets everyone who shows dissent, especially Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars who support sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Ukraine. The Russian occupation regime has launched over 130 criminal cases against Crimean Tatars, including a case to ban their main organization – the Mejlis," he said.
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    Post  Khepesh Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:02 pm

    Ispan wrote:
    By the way, anyone can find the original and tell me what LNG stands for? is a type of weapon but not sure wich.
    After scratching head and finding the original report it is СПГ refering to SPG-9 recoilless gun.
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    Post  Khepesh Thu Mar 31, 2016 8:20 pm

    NOT TRUE, but would be interesting if it was. Report says "Poroshenko asked for political asylum in US" But of course it is only a matter of time before it really will be true, if he manages to get to Borispol before being captured and lynched.   http://nahnews.org/668068-poroshenko-poprosil-politicheskogo-ubezhishha-v-ssha/

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:33 pm


    Russia nabs Ukrainian spy, says he will be sent home

    http://news.yahoo.com/russia-nabs-ukrainian-spy-says-sent-home-111212502.html

    MOSCOW (AP) — Russia's domestic security agency said Thursday it has captured a Ukrainian security officer who volunteered to spy for Moscow and will send him back because they believe he is a double agent.

    The Federal Security Service, or FSB, the main KGB successor agency, said in a statement that the man, Yuri Ivanchenko, was detained on Saturday.

    The agency said Thursday that Ivanchenko traveled to Moscow to offer his services to the FSB. It claimed that the CIA had helped the Ukrainian security service prepare Ivanchenko for the mission aimed at eventually exposing his Russian contacts.

    The FSB said Ivanchenko, who reportedly solicited his services once before, in 2014, will be sent home and not face any charges.

    Russia and Ukraine are locked in a tug-of-war after Moscow's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula in 2014 and its support for a separatist insurgency in eastern Ukraine.

    In Kiev, chief of the Ukrainian Security Service, or SBU, Vasyl Grytsak confirmed in comments to the Interfax news agency Ivanchenko was an SBU employee but insisted he went to Russia on his own volition. Grytsak said Ivanchenko has had no access to "state secrets" since 2015 and was about to be fired.
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:16 am

    Poro saying that gas that has transited Ukraine from Russia to the EU is not Russian when they buy it from the EU. Yeah, right!

    Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has said that Ukraine has managed to overcome its dependence on Russian natural gas. "Some say that the war is not the time to carry out reforms. I strongly believe it's not true. We have done a lot of work this year," the president said talking to the Ukrainian community in Washington on Thursday.

    In particular, he noted the work done in the establishment of Ukraine's independence from Russian gas. "For 25 years, Ukraine has been on Russia's 'gas needle'. Every autumn we were under pressure of the Russian authorities' blackmail in energy matters," he said. According to Poroshenko, in the past twelve months Ukraine managed to become independent from Russia in energy matters.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:43 am


    This should jumpstart some menstrual cycles in 404... Cool

    ''Ukraine should never join EU – Dutch Prime Minister''

    https://www.rt.com/news/337950-ukraine-eu-dutch-pm-referendum/
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    Post  auslander Fri Apr 01, 2016 4:41 am

    It doesn't matter what the Dutch people say, it matters what the Oval Orifice says. Still, Turkey ain't in yet either after how many years?

    From the looks of it the entire 404 is 24/7/365 OTR.
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    Post  sepheronx Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:11 pm

    Money Talks: Obama Offers Ukraine Cash Loans for Cabinet Reshuffle

    This is just getting really sad. $1B for cabinet reshuffling. Really? Is that really needed? The country is falling apart for crying out loud. Then again, the sooner the better I suppose.
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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:51 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Money Talks: Obama Offers Ukraine Cash Loans for Cabinet Reshuffle

    This is just getting really sad.  $1B for cabinet reshuffling.  Really? Is that really needed?  The country is falling apart for crying out loud.  Then again, the sooner the better I suppose.

    Money laundering, I suppose ? Question
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:14 pm

    No ammo shortage around here. Spray and pray.


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    JohninMK wrote:No ammo shortage around here. Spray and pray.


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    Post  Khepesh Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:42 pm

    Giatsint-B at Rubezhnoe yesterday https://yandex.ru/maps/24892/rubizhne/?ll=38.366755%2C49.005579&spn=3.284912%2C1.351431&z=13&l=map
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:56 pm

    The worrying part is that the UA plans look to be more thought out and implemented than last time, with a lot of gear deployed, probably ready to go at anytime.

    Given that there must be a very good chance that a portion of the artillery is going to be aimed directly at civilian/infrastructure targets, rather than military (as part of the destroy the economic viability of DNR/LPR sub campaign) one has to hope that the counter artillery action is a lot quicker and effective than last time, especially against the longer range rockets and missiles.

    Just the first few hours are likely to be pretty devastating. A grade one demonstration of man's inhumanity to man. Civil wars were never supposed to be like this.

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