I said MBT are useless because their MAIN GUN is extremely vulnerable .
A tanks main gun is vulnerable if you can hit it reliably.
Its tracks are also vulnerable if you can hit those reliably too.
the point is that a tank is not defeated when its main gun is taken out... it still has at least two machine guns and excellent long range visibility of the battlefield.
the time it would take to rebarrel a modern MBT means within a few hours it can be fighting again... that is assuming you can actually manage to hit the main gun in the first place. ARENA defends the whole tank including the main gun.
There have been numerous cases in both Iraq & Syria where the MAIN GUN of the MBT was specifically targeted by the militias who were armed with RPGs . Once the Main Gun was destroyed the MBT hardly served any purpose .
Makes you wonder why they target the main gun?
Two main reasons... on a tank with no APS system fitted it is certainly vulnerable, AND because the main gun represents a real danger to enemy forces.
You need to find an unbiased source that shows a realistic figure for vehicle losses... a tank loss is the total destruction of a tank... ie it can't be used any more. Damaging or even blowing off a tanks main gun is trivial damage that can be fixed rather quickly.
MBTs are good in Open and Hilly terrain but certainly not in Urban conflict . And even in Open & Hilly terrain their MAIN GUN is vulnerable .
So ask yourself why all major powers that operate tanks (which is all of them) take them into urban areas???
And if YES , was the ARENA successful in destroying the incoming Hermes or KH 59 ?
I can assure you that the ARENA ( or any other APS) cannot protect an MBT from the Hermes and Kh 59 .
No APS can defend from Kh-59. Very simply a large HE warhead even if prematurely detonated by an APS 10m from a tank will still kill the crew because of the power of the HE warhead. Heavy ATGMs can be stopped by ARENA, including fast ones, but cruise missiles and guided air to ground ordinance like Maverick or LGBs will be engaged by TOR or Pantsir.
So which is it?
Are you an illiterate idiot posting this crap from a trailer park, or are you a troll claiming to be American when you're really not?!
Let us know cupcake.
Is it necessary to be abusive? You can ask for clarification without being offensive.
And you can't deny that Hermes & Kh 59 are used to take out armored vehicles including MBTs .
Even if Sensor Fuzed Weapons like BLU 108 , CBU 97 or Russia's SPBE D are used ARENA / any other APS will be of no use .
It is odd that you talk about ARENA trying to deal with Hermes or AS-18, but talk about American submunitions...
The delivery platform has to reach the MBTs... in the case of MLRS those rockets only reach 40km and would be engaged by Vityaz and BUK, with Smerch making sure they fire only once.
Hermes would likely be hit 10-15m away from the tank but it is questionable about its effect. A standard blast 30kg warhead would likely be more effective than a HEAT round, but the new Afghanistan APS might involve a mechanism that turns the incoming threat in flight... this would yaw the APFSDS round rendering it much less effective... with a HEAT round this could direct the HEAT plasma torch into the ground or up at the air making it rather less effective in its anti armour role.
So yeah, ARENA is useless against Kh-59 since it lacks the intercept distance needed for the tank to survive the blast. However afghanistan may very well be able to counter it- if it uses either a solid hit to kill interceptor or a proximity fused HE-frag one it will be able to engage the kh-59 from 50 meters or maybe more.
ARENA probably wouldn't stop a Tomahawk missile or a Minuteman III... and it is totally ineffective against land mines...
At the end of the day it is very effective against some of the most widely used anti armour weapons like RPGs and recoilless rifles and most ATGMs.