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    Ukraine Military: Situation and Needs

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    Post  Airman Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:28 am

    miketheterrible wrote:So it's alright for Turkey to supply weapons clearly used to kill Russians?

    Fuck Turkey.

    When Russia sells Iskander missiles to Armenia, it's okay. However, When Turkey sells UAV's to Ukraine, Oh! İts'a huge problem! We should drop some nukes on Turkey!

    Ukrainian Army is using Russian/Soviet made arms to fight against Pro-Russian forces in Donbass. I think, You need to worry about Russian made weapons in the hands of Ukrainian Army, rather than Turkish made UAV's. Because Ukrainian army is full of Russian made weapons. Maybe Russia should drop an atomic bomb on its territory for selling these weapons to Ukraine?
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:58 am

    Armanians aren't actively killing Turks dumbass.  Only ones who faced a genocide by Turks are Armenians. So stop playing victim.

    Plus you seem to fail to graps difference between Soviet gear and Russian. Ukraine uses Soviet gear.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:51 am

    Russia sells weapons to almost anyone... even Saudi Arabia... they are hardly in a position to throw stones.

    I don't think Turkey is more guilty of such things as any other "partner" the Russians have.

    The UK and US go out of their way to finance and support those that will do harm to Russia and Russian interests... I think they are more of a problem than Turkey.

    I think Turkey could become a useful and powerful ally to Russia, and I think Russian gas going to Turkey and then on to Europe gives Turkey a lot of leverage over the EU, and will earn them a lot in transit fees alone.

    The Ukraine was going to buy UAVs... whether Turkey sells them or Israel or whoever else does is not really that important... Turkey should make sure the cheque clears before handing over any hardware.

    I am sure the Russians will find those UAVs interesting to examine and dissect.
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    Post  d_taddei2 Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:39 am

    All this over 12 UAV wow. am sure Russia has now given forces in the east verba to tackle the threat lol.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:11 pm

    Actually it would probably be much more useful to use one of their jammers and see if they can knock one down electronically so they can get a look at one... but of course claim publicly that they are unreliable and had some sort of system failure and that is why it crashed.

    If you can bring them down you don't want them to know that...

    Verbas would be overkill... they should send them to me... Smile
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:49 am


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    Nikolai Vorobiev, the director of the #Ukraine's "Antonova" #HALE UAV project said, "we are developing the HALE #UAV with a foreign country. They will provide the electronic parts and bombs"


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    Post  GarryB Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:15 am

    Good... they are armed... so easy to justify shooting them down in numbers on sight.
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    Post  George1 Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:00 pm

    Recovery of tanks in Ukraine from storage

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3587222.html

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:26 pm

    George1 wrote:Recovery of tanks in Ukraine from storage

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3587222.html

    Mildly amusing/humorous PR from the Ukrappy, but the question is how many are in fighting shape and how many are just gloried monuments? 404 is notorious for their armor repair short-comings (Oplot, BTR-4, all of their T-80 modifications), hell the few working Su-27's they have had little amount of repairs done over the span of 30 years.
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    Post  George1 Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:04 pm

    The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine accuses the KGBM of disrupting the mass production of armored personnel carriers BTR-4E

    On August 15, 2019, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine published an official response to allegations from the Ukrainian media against it of blocking the purchase of armored personnel carriers BTR-4E produced by the State Enterprise Kharkiv Design Bureau of Engineering named after A.A. Morozova ”(HCMB). The text of the answer clearly demonstrates the level of degradation of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine - in particular, it is indicated that “in two years of the contract, with due funding, the enterprise [KHMB] produced only 7 units of BTR-4E armored personnel carriers”.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3739337.html

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    Post  kvs Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:16 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    George1 wrote:Recovery of tanks in Ukraine from storage

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3587222.html

    Mildly amusing/humorous PR from the Ukrappy, but the question is how many are in fighting shape and how many are just gloried monuments? 404 is notorious for their armor repair short-comings (Oplot, BTR-4, all of their T-80 modifications), hell the few working Su-27's they have had little amount of repairs done over the span of 30 years.

    It turns out that the tanks stored in the open are basically garbage since the engines were not properly preserved. There have been
    numerous cases of these open air units experiencing catastrophic engine failure after refurbishment. Banderastan has lost the ability
    to manufacture the engines used by these tanks and I have not heard of any program to import NATO engines as substitutes.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:06 pm

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    Post  JohninMK Fri May 28, 2021 5:52 pm

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    Post  franco Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:29 pm

    "There was no synergy": the office of Zelensky commented on the resignation of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Khomchak

    It became known about the resignation of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, General Ruslan Khomchak. He resigned today "on the basis of negotiations with the president of the country." This interpretation is used in the Ukrainian media.

    It is reported that Colonel-General Khomchak, who was the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine since March 27, 2020 (then the position appeared in the Ukrainian register), goes to serve in the National Security and Defense Council. According to the latest data, the 54-year-old general will take the post of Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine. At this point, he replaces Mikhail Koval.

    The press service of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense reports that Valery Zaluzhny has been approved for the post of Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Until recently, Major General Zaluzhny was the commander of the VOK (operational command troops) "North".

    The press service of President Zelensky, commenting on the resignation of Ruslan Khomchak, said that there was “no synergy” between the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Ministry of Defense.

    The president has no doubts about Khomchak's professionalism and patriotism, but he wants to see synergy between the defense ministry and the military. So far, we only see conflicts.

    Earlier, between the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Minister of Defense of the country, there was, to put it mildly, a misunderstanding on a number of issues related, first of all, to the reform of the army. This "misunderstanding" developed into interdepartmental conflicts, which are now being discussed in Zelensky's office.

    Apparently, Zelensky expects a voiced "synergy" from Zaluzhny.

    For reference: Khomchak graduated from the Moscow Military High School named after the Supreme Council of the RSFSR in 1988. Serves in the armed forces of Ukraine since 1993.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:52 pm


    US invited to station troops & rocket systems in Ukraine in potential major escalation of tense standoff across border with Russia
    https://www.rt.com/russia/531653-reznikov-invited-us-deploy-military/
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    Post  GarryB Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:45 am

    The presence of US troops in the country justify actual support from Russia for those who could use it...
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    Post  ALAMO Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:27 am

    Ukraina is doing all it can to make someone else joining the war they cant win.
    But there is hardly anyone interested Laughing
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    Post  kvs Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:49 am

    The problem with the cunning plan to put missiles on Russia's borders is that Russia can do the same thing
    but with hypersonic variants that can reach any part of U-rope within minutes. This includes specialized
    hypersonic missiles to take out the Ukr missile bases. U-rope seems to have slightly more sane leadership
    and will not be too keen on such confrontation even if the yanquis thing it is a grand idea.

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    Post  Hole Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:34 pm

    If we consider the current state of western air defences, Russia could rely on the 2008 method: take a Mi-8 with special forces and land in close proximity to the air defence system and kick the asses of the poor soldiers sitting inside of them.
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    Post  kvs Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:48 pm

    Hole wrote:If we consider the current state of western air defences, Russia could rely on the 2008 method: take a Mi-8 with special forces and land in close proximity to the air defence system and kick the asses of the poor soldiers sitting inside of them.

    That is not as outlandish as it may appear.

    I find it funny how Americans talk about surrounding China with hypersonic missile systems when they have none. Their latest
    test had the engines fail to start on launch. It takes them several months to set up a test which is really strange for the
    alleged richest country on Earth. They can afford to do tests in batches of test missiles and not one at a time.

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    Post  franco Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:01 am

    Import of weapons and military equipment to Ukraine in 2014-2021

    The website of the Russia in Global Affairs magazine published the material by Natalya Pechorina and Andrei Frolov “War under International Contracts. Import of weapons and military equipment to Ukraine in 2014-2021 ” , which states that neither foreign military aid, nor direct purchases give Ukraine anything other than new linked arms loans for its acquisition. Likewise, American military aid is not a “signal to Russia,” but a series of enslaving deals for Ukraine that strengthen its dependence on the United States and contribute very little to strengthening the Ukrainian army.

    Full article: https://bmpd-livejournal-com.translate.goog/4420116.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=nui

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