Russia-Iran S-300 missile systems deal

George1 wrote:

Viktor wrote:Nice  

2015Extension of the arms embargo to Iran will not affect the delivery of S-300

Do we know when the arms embargo will totally be lifted??

the reference is saw in the media was a ban on heavy weapons for five years...have not heard what heavy weapons equates to however.

crod wrote:

George1 wrote:

Viktor wrote:Nice  

2015Extension of the arms embargo to Iran will not affect the delivery of S-300

Do we know when the arms embargo will totally be lifted??

the reference is saw in the media was a ban on heavy weapons for five years...have not heard what heavy weapons equates to however.

Yes arms embargo will be lifted in 2020. So i have the same question, how this doesnt affect S-300 delivery?? And if it is not affected that means that arms embargo continues for specific types of weapons? And also that means that Russia can deliver other arms till 2020?? For example transport helicopters?? or APCs?? Or other types of SAMs??

The majority of UN's Security Council Resolutions against Iran were agreed upon by Russia's Dmitry Medvedev, which is a shame. The UNSCR Nº 1929, which tightened the arms embargo, was passed in June 9, 2010 with Russia's blessing. All this S-300 delivery quid pro quo between Russia and Iran was a mess made up by DM.

Nice

Korochenko: Russia may deliver enhanced systems to Iran S-300PMU2

Negotiations coming to its end

Kozhin: Russia will supply Iran with modernized S-300, modify it

7 years now of flip floping BS endless talks just do it or cancel it.... just get it over with now

Nice ...

2015It worked through the process equipment deliveries to Iran of S-300

Iran Expects Delivery of S-300s Soon After Signing of New Deal

Iran expects to get Russian S-300 missile defense systems after the deal is signed, according to the source.

TEHRAN (Sputnik) — Iran expects to receive Russian S-300 missile defense systems 30-40 days after the signing of a new deal with Moscow, a source in the Iranian defense ministry told Sputnik on Tuesday.

"The transfer of the systems will take place 30-40 days following the signing," the source said.

Tehran will send a delegation to Moscow next week for talks on the delivery of Russian S-300 missile defense systems, an Iranian defense ministry source told Sputnik on Tuesday.

"The signing will take place in Moscow with the participation of an Iranian military delegation and a Russian delegation. Work to clarify the date is currently underway, this will probably be next Wednesday or Thursday," the source said.

According to the source, the delegation will be headed by the Iranian defense minister or one of his deputies.

Iran will also withdraw its lawsuit against Russia immediately after the signing of a new agreement, an Iranian defense ministry source told Sputnik on Tuesday:

"The claim will be withdrawn immediately following the signing of a new delivery contract," the source said.

The delivery of Russian S-300 missile defense systems to Iran could pave way for new deals between the countries in the military-technical sphere, such as purchase of aircraft, an Iranian defense ministry also added:

"The delivery will open the door for other deals with Russia in the military sphere, especially in military aviation. We expect to sign an agreement, according to which Iran would receive a number of various Russian military aircraft," the source said.

In 2007, Russia and Iran sealed a contract for the delivery of the S-300 surface-to-air missile system. Three years later, then-Russian President Dmitry Medvedev put the deal on hold after the UN Security Council introduced an embargo on arms deliveries to Iran over the alleged development of nuclear weapons by the country.

In April, Russian President Vladimir Putin lifted the ban on S-300 deliveries, shortly after the P5+1 group of international negotiators and Iran reached a framework nuclear agreement.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150818/1025875177.html#ixzz3jAV4BRs8

Military aircraft are now in the pipeline following the signing of the S-300 deal ....

Viktor wrote:Military aircraft are now in the pipeline following the signing of the S-300 deal ....

I assumed that military aircraft was considered heavy weapons - banned for five years?

All four batteries of modernized S-300 will be delivered to Iran by the end of 2015

Source: Russia will supply Iran with S-300 this year

Could not be clearly said

Iran is going to cooperate with Russia in the field of production of fighter aircraft

Iran and Russia are negotiating the establishment of joint production of fighter aircraft, said Tuesday in Tehran, the Islamic republic's defense minister Hossein Dehkan

Viktor wrote:Could not be clearly said    

Iran is going to cooperate with Russia in the field of production of fighter aircraft

Iran and Russia are negotiating the establishment of joint production of fighter aircraft, said Tuesday in Tehran, the Islamic republic's defense minister Hossein Dehkan

The Russian move to make a 'world fighter' is underway. Maybe Flankers made in Russia/China/India/Iran, where next? Talk about outFlanking the US

Would make sense. Let Iran be able to assemble and build parts for a Su-30MKI variant for Iran, with maybe some assistance from India as well. In that case, Russia still makes their money through royalties and spares, while Iran gets more knowledge and skilled workers, and India gets more involved in such programs.

Would be huge benefit doe Iran and India.

JohninMK wrote:

Viktor wrote:Could not be clearly said    

Iran is going to cooperate with Russia in the field of production of fighter aircraft

Iran and Russia are negotiating the establishment of joint production of fighter aircraft, said Tuesday in Tehran, the Islamic republic's defense minister Hossein Dehkan

The Russian move to make a 'world fighter' is underway. Maybe Flankers made in Russia/China/India/Iran, where next? Talk about outFlanking the US

OutFlanking the US, I like it

and the story goes for the second time, this time with a bit more info

Iran, Russia to Join Hands to Build Fighter Jets

So which fighter will they 'jointly cooperate' on?

refurbishing Iran's old mig-29 9-12's......? or maybe that Shafagh flying saucer design?

or something more substantial like the Su-30/ 35.......?

Also, will Russia get bribed again by the West on the S300 drama, and back out yet again at the 11:59th hour? like it usually does?

Putin will no doubt be looked at like a joker if he backs out this time around.

Iran is reporting, that they will sign S-300 contract in MAKS-2015 airshow.

lulldapull wrote:So which fighter will they 'jointly cooperate' on?

refurbishing Iran's old mig-29 9-12's......? or maybe that Shafagh flying saucer design?

or something more substantial like the Su-30/ 35.......?

Also, will Russia get bribed again by the West on the S300 drama, and back out yet again at the 11:59th hour? like it usually does?

Putin will no doubt be looked at like a joker if he backs out this time around.

The jokers are first and foremost the mullahs. Regardless of the geostrategical games between the US Axis and Russia, with Iran in the middle, what did the mullahs offered Russia to make it worthwhile for them to supply S-300 and other things discussed in the past years? Obviously nothing of value, even if Iran would have plenty to offer, oil and gas concessions, bases, investments, strategic partnership against threats to both Russia and Iran etc.

mack8 wrote:

lulldapull wrote:So which fighter will they 'jointly cooperate' on?

refurbishing Iran's old mig-29 9-12's......? or maybe that Shafagh flying saucer design?

or something more substantial like the Su-30/ 35.......?

Also, will Russia get bribed again by the West on the S300 drama, and back out yet again at the 11:59th hour? like it usually does?

Putin will no doubt be looked at like a joker if he backs out this time around.

The jokers are first and foremost the mullahs. Regardless of the geostrategical games between the US Axis and Russia, with Iran in the middle, what did the mullahs offered Russia to make it worthwhile for them to supply S-300 and other things discussed in the past years? Obviously nothing of value, even if Iran would have plenty to offer, oil and gas concessions, bases, investments, strategic partnership against threats to both Russia and Iran etc.

Actually the Iranians have been doing a lot as far as supporting Syria with intelligence, as well as republican guard officers.

mack8 from the ghetto.............how are the US sanctions on russia 'for value' now?

How does china's ongoing financial collapse feels?

From your unintellectual comment, you have no goddamn clue of what's going on in the ME........do you?

Iran can be one of of the most cash rich customer of weapons for Russia along with China and India. The sanctions imposed by west and US can go to hell if Russia is able to target and maintain high level of trust and friendship with these countries

http://tass.ru/en/world/816700

Hmph, I don't get why Russia would have a problem with delivering the systems immediately, who gives a damn about the lawsuit, it'll be moot once the S-300s arrive. Am I misreading this or does  the Russian position seem a tad stupid, that's not exactly showing signs of good faith to Iran.

OminousSpudd wrote:http://tass.ru/en/world/816700

Hmph, I don't get why Russia would have a problem with delivering the systems immediately, who gives a damn about the lawsuit, it'll be moot once the S-300s arrive. Am I misreading this or does  the Russian position seem a tad stupid, that's not exactly showing signs of good faith to Iran.

Good faith works both ways and what you describe may work on small deals but this is a state level deal between Russians and Iranians, neither known, to put it mildly, as soft touches.

There are clearly tough negotiators on both sides, doing their jobs, conceding nothing that the other side might perceive as weakness. These are the ground rules being laid for probably many deals to come. Once both sides recognise that the other is as unflinching as they are, considerable respect and trust can be generated, leading to really good and fair, to both sides, deals.

OminousSpudd wrote:http://tass.ru/en/world/816700

Hmph, I don't get why Russia would have a problem with delivering the systems immediately, who gives a damn about the lawsuit, it'll be moot once the S-300s arrive. Am I misreading this or does  the Russian position seem a tad stupid, that's not exactly showing signs of good faith to Iran.

There's much more to this than just here your missiles, we're done. Iran knows those S300, need other pieces to work as expected. They're demanding some of those pieces. It's normal that takes time.