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    Russia-Iran S-300 missile systems deal

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    Post  franco Sun Mar 06, 2016 4:32 pm

    ^^^This would also explain the inactivity of the 8-10,000 Hezbollah / Iranian mercenaries fighting in Aleppo the past couple of weeks. ^^^
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:02 pm

    franco wrote:^^^This would also explain the inactivity of the 8-10,000 Hezbollah / Iranian mercenaries fighting in Aleppo the past couple of weeks. ^^^


    Just my 2 kopecks here:

    1) what article source pls. IMHO Israeli and Q8 press is really not the best source of true info.

    2) Pantisr 1 has been in Syrian Military around for couple of years, no wonder that can station there.

    3) Second if Iran has mercenaries then any western soldier being paid is in fact a mercenary (whole l nato BTW Smile
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    Post  franco Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:37 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    franco wrote:^^^This would also explain the inactivity of the 8-10,000 Hezbollah / Iranian mercenaries fighting in Aleppo the past couple of weeks. ^^^


    Just my 2 kopecks here:

    1) what article source pls. IMHO Israeli and Q8 press is really not the best source of true info.

    Russian sources also commenting on it but agreed there are questions.

    2) Pantisr 1 has been in Syrian Military around for couple of years, no wonder that can station there.

    Panstir's were sold to Iran, not for Hezbollah in Lebanon

    3) Second if Iran has mercenaries then any western soldier being paid is in fact a mercenary (whole l nato BTW  Smile

    Not regular Iranian army so volunteers if that makes you happier but most are actually mercenaries so yeah
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    Post  max steel Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:52 pm

    cite some russian sources israeli right wing media outlets are hardly reliable.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:48 pm

    franco wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    franco wrote:^^^This would also explain the inactivity of the 8-10,000 Hezbollah / Iranian mercenaries fighting in Aleppo the past couple of weeks. ^^^
    [

    Just my 2 kopecks here:

    1) what article source pls. IMHO Israeli and Q8 press is really not the best source of true info.

    Russian sources also commenting on it but agreed there are questions.


    And Russian sources are referring to what source exactly? BTW in Russian media surely there´s no V-column and Israeli agents of influence vide. Nosik or whle Ekho of Moscow Smile



    franco wrote:
    2) Pantisr 1 has been in Syrian Military around for couple of years, no wonder that can station there.

    Panstir's were sold to Iran, not for Hezbollah in Lebanon

    Were sold to Syria
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    Actually to Syria who is the owner of Golan Heights, currently under temporary Jewish State´s occupation.




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    3) Second if Iran has mercenaries then any western soldier being paid is in fact a mercenary (whole l nato BTW  Smile

    Not regular Iranian army so volunteers if that makes you happier but most are actually mercenaries so yeah
    [/quote]

    yup exactly like most of Jewish/US or any other "free world" armies Smile In Saudi or Q8 there are only actually mercenaries Smile
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    Post  franco Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:14 pm

    Article posted above is a goggle translation of a post from a Russian Site. The rest we wait and see.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:24 am

    franco wrote:Article posted above is a goggle translation of a post from a Russian Site. The rest we wait and see.

    I would love to see a link though Smile
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    Post  franco Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:53 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    franco wrote:Article posted above is a goggle translation of a post from a Russian Site. The rest we wait and see.

    I would love to see a link though Smile

    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://in24.org/politics/21143&usg=ALkJrhiwhBi5jtLEDLw3K8G8AcWLqbQlag
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:26 pm

    franco wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    franco wrote:Article posted above is a goggle translation of a post from a Russian Site. The rest we wait and see.

    I would love to see a link though Smile

    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://in24.org/politics/21143&usg=ALkJrhiwhBi5jtLEDLw3K8G8AcWLqbQlag
    The article quotes JPost.

    Nothing reliable.
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    Post  George1 Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:31 pm

    Problems in the implementation of the contract with Iran for the supply of S-300PMU-2

    They are related to the proposed Iranian negotiators payment mechanism transactions, the cost of which exceeds $ 1 billion. On the suspension of the Russian-Iranian contract for the supply of systems S-300PMU-2 Kuwaiti newspaper "Al-Jarida" wrote on 6 March. Citing its own sources, the publication said: Russian President Vladimir Putin has received from the Israeli evidence transferring Iranian arms, in particular anti-aircraft missile and gun systems "Pantsyr-S1" and anti-ship missiles such as "Yakhont" to Lebanese group "Hezbollah", and then ordered to freeze the deal.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1782641.html

    so the transfer has been cancelled again?
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    Post  AlfaT8 Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:43 pm

    George1 wrote:Problems in the implementation of the contract with Iran for the supply of S-300PMU-2

    They are related to the proposed Iranian negotiators payment mechanism transactions, the cost of which exceeds $ 1 billion. On the suspension of the Russian-Iranian contract for the supply of systems S-300PMU-2 Kuwaiti newspaper "Al-Jarida" wrote on 6 March. Citing its own sources, the publication said: Russian President Vladimir Putin has received from the Israeli evidence transferring Iranian arms, in particular anti-aircraft missile and gun systems "Pantsyr-S1" and anti-ship missiles such as "Yakhont" to Lebanese group "Hezbollah", and then ordered to freeze the deal.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1782641.html

    so the transfer has been cancelled again?

    Info is coming from Israel, i smell desperation, anyway we haven't heard anything from either Russia or Iran so we're assuming that everything is still on course.

    BTW these weapon transfers happened before and it was to Syria not Hezbollah, and even if it was it's unlikely that Russia would give a damn.
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    Post  par far Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:57 pm

    When will the military sanctions on Iran be lifted? How long is that?
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:04 pm

    par far wrote:When will the military sanctions on Iran be lifted? How long is that?
    Any military sanctions that might be in place are not affecting this deal.

    If this report is true, it is the reported side deal between Russia and Israel, that Russia will not supply Hesbolah with advanced weapon systems, that is being used as the reason to stop supply.
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    Post  Viktor Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:10 pm

    par far wrote:When will the military sanctions on Iran be lifted? How long is that?

    5 years from now, but there is a provision in the contract which states that if IAEA confirms all nuclear feasible material in Iran has been destroyed or taken out of the country

    weapons sanctions can be terminated even earlier Very Happy

    Deal is still on but due to currency turbulence I bet they have some misunderstanding that will be settled shortly.
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    Post  par far Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:46 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    par far wrote:When will the military sanctions on Iran be lifted? How long is that?
    Any military sanctions that might be in place are not affecting this deal.

    If this report is true, it is the reported side deal between Russia and Israel, that Russia will not supply Hesbolah with advanced weapon systems, that is being used as the reason to stop supply.


    I don't know why Russia needs to make "side deals" with the Jews, if it is in the interests of Russia, just do it.

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    Post  par far Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:47 pm

    Viktor wrote:
    par far wrote:When will the military sanctions on Iran be lifted? How long is that?

    5 years from now, but there is a provision in the contract which states that if IAEA confirms all nuclear feasible material in Iran has been destroyed or taken out of the country

    weapons sanctions can be terminated even earlier Very Happy

    Deal is still on but due to currency turbulence I bet they have some misunderstanding that will be settled shortly.

    Thanks for the information Viktor.

    Here's a video explaining on what happening with the arms deals with Iran.

    https://southfront.org/iran-military-and-technical-cooperation-after-sanctions/


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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:38 pm

    Claims of Russia Suspending Iran S-300 Deliveries Are Bollocks
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    Post  crod Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:09 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Claims of Russia Suspending Iran S-300 Deliveries Are Bollocks

    Until I see them on the ground on Iranian soil I wont believe the deal is going ahead.

    It is becoming farcical to say the very least. What purpose would such a story serve? If they refer to an issue and that appears to be BS what was gained by it? Iran would still obtain the systems and those living in Israel would feel doubly duped; systems in Iran and given a false sense of security that Israel somehow prevented the deal.

    I don't buy it, something yet again is a foot here with this deal.
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    Post  George1 Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:38 pm

    Russia to deliver first batch of S-300 systems to Iran in August or September

    More:
    http://tass.ru/en/defense/861580

    Answering a question on whether it will be a PMU-1, he noted: "Yes, they gave the conditions, and said they need only an S-300 PMU-1." "We suggested an Antey-2500, but they said no, give us the S-300," Chemezov went on. "Essentially, it’s the last system that we will deliver, and then yes, after that it probably won’t be produced anymore," he added.
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    Post  mack8 Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:03 pm

    For what it's worth, according to this article the first delivery should happen in the next few days.
    http://www.interfax.ru/russia/502079

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    Post  Viktor Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:48 pm

    Nice  thumbsup

    Russian Foreign Ministry: Moscow and Tehran are negotiating to supply Iran with S-400



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    Post  crod Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:30 pm

    Viktor wrote:Nice  thumbsup

    Russian Foreign Ministry: Moscow and Tehran are negotiating to supply Iran with S-400



    I cannot read the link, does this mean 300 not happening now while this deal is negotiated?
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    Post  Viktor Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:51 pm

    crod wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Nice  thumbsup

    Russian Foreign Ministry: Moscow and Tehran are negotiating to supply Iran with S-400



    I cannot read the link, does this mean 300 not happening now while this deal is negotiated?

    This would represent a separate deal.
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    Post  crod Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:01 pm

    Viktor wrote:
    crod wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Nice  thumbsup

    Russian Foreign Ministry: Moscow and Tehran are negotiating to supply Iran with S-400



    I cannot read the link, does this mean 300 not happening now while this deal is negotiated?

    This would represent a separate deal.

    Ty Victor. Well I guess should that come to pass, it will shit some people to tears and put some regional airforces up the shitter.
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    Post  Viktor Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:17 pm

    crod wrote:Ty Victor. Well I guess should that come to pass, it will shit some people to tears and put some regional airforces up the shitter.

    In a few years time Iran will start to receive advanced Russian weapons en masse thumbsup

    Rogozin: problematic issues on deliveries of S-300 to Iran is not

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