Syrian Civil War: News #4

JohninMK wrote:End of month map

https://imagopyrenaei.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/syria-iraq-kurdistan-30n.png

The pace is too slow for the Syrian government. Some decent gains around Aleppo and Latakia were partly offset by terrorist gains in North Hama. Hopefully December will be better.

1st group of 135 fighters left the area Qudssaya near Damascus, and will be forwarded to the province of Idlib under the mediation of the UN and the Red Cross



Similar deal in progress in Homs




Compilation of SAA footage in the South of the Country

max steel wrote:

Is it true that The Russian's have entered repeatedly into the Turkish air space and engaged their targeting radars painting Turkish F16s? Because having transponders off when armed and having targeting radars on is a hostile act.

Nope that was the famous 'Mig 29 affair'. Russian Su30 skirted the Turkish airspace and F16's went to intercept it on VR. Incoming F16 (6 according to Turkey were painted by "Syrian GBADS", although most probably Russian radars for a certain ammount of time while escorting the Su30). There have been 3 incidents. Su30's, Drone, Su24.

The whole "they do it all the time started after Nov 19th/20th direct hits on Turkmens/FSA in Jabal Akrad area. So basically it bollocks.

Cyberspec wrote:1st group of 135 fighters left the area Qudssaya near Damascus, and will be forwarded to the province of Idlib under the mediation of the UN and the Red Cross



Similar deal in progress in Homs




Compilation of SAA footage in the South of the Country

although to some this may seem like its just transferring terrorists to another conflict zone for the SAA to fight, but this is a step in the right direction as this actually frees up SAA troops from having to guard/protect small pockets of rebels, when they could be put to good use else where. Now all we need is this type of thing to happen in other areas in Damascus, Homs, Darra, Qalamoun, and any other areas of small pockets of terrorists, and areas where truces are in place, think this would greatly release troops from these areas providing much needed troops on other major fronts.

Germany joins the fray.

https://www.rt.com/news/324097-germany-isis-syria-support/

Nominally Ger denies all kinds of connection with Assad, of course.

The German government says it will join the military campaign against Islamic State in Syria, but has ruled out any cooperation with the country’s president Bashar Assad. The plans will see Berlin sending 1,200 personnel to the region, but in an advisory role.

The decision to commit to the fight against Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) was taken by Chancellor Angela Merkel’s cabinet on Tuesday, according to a government official cited by Reuters.

higurashihougi wrote:Germany joins the fray.

https://www.rt.com/news/324097-germany-isis-syria-support/

Nominally Ger denies all kinds of connection with Assad, of course.

The German government says it will join the military campaign against Islamic State in Syria, but has ruled out any cooperation with the country’s president Bashar Assad. The plans will see Berlin sending 1,200 personnel to the region, but in an advisory role.

The decision to commit to the fight against Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) was taken by Chancellor Angela Merkel’s cabinet on Tuesday, according to a government official cited by Reuters.

Much of the manpower seems to be in support of 6 Tornado recon planes. In Incirlik?

bonus foto

Big article on the legality of the US/NATO action in Syria by a British legal eagle basically saying that it is a 'wish and a prayer' legal case for military action in Syria without the agreement of the Government there. This is the last para

"There is no specific Security Council authorization for the use of force. The resolution assists the argument that the criteria for self-defence are met, although each state needs itself to be satisfied on the evidence that armed force is necessary and proportionate. Finally, whether there is a legal justification for the use of force is a separate question from whether the use of force is the right course to take."

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151201/1031044195/uk-syria-airstrikes-legality.html#ixzz3t4U0C3kC

I think NATO knows its terrorist regime-change proxy army is under a lot of stress. This has to be why France, UK and now even ze Germans are jumping in. They are determined to save their project. IDK, Russia may need to commit more assets and deploy ground troops to counteract this trend, which is unfolding quickly now. I hope that Russia really isn't under any delusion that any of the NATO states would "partner" with it. Russia is alone against all of them. There could be 100 terrorist attacks by IS on French civilians and this would not change. Russia should up the ante against these clowns.

sepheronx wrote:Since the country is legaly ruled by Assad, he has to make it clear that the Germans, UK and such are not welcomed and not allowed to fly in their country. He has yet to make such a remark.

Very interesting point. There is clearly some reason why the Syrian Government, not just Assad, who may well just be their figurehead and useful fall guy, has not done so.

My take is that it could well have something to do with not being able to stop anyone should they have told them to, or even with UN Article 51 on self defence. By co-incidence I linked earlier to a Sputnik release today on that very subject, here is a part

"On top of collective self-defense of Iraq, Cameron said that Daesh's campaign against the UK and its allies had reached the level of an "armed attack" against them. The reference is to Article 51 of the UN Charter, which gives states the right to self-defense when an attack occurs. To justify military action on the basis of self-defense, states must prove that the threatened attack is imminent and that self-defense is necessary and proportionate. Furthermore, if the UK is to legally use self-defense as a reason to attack Daesh targets in Syria, it must be proved that the Syrian government forces are "unwilling or unable" to prevent attacks on foreign territories."

Had the Syrians bared outright any intervention then the attacking countries may have claimed Article 51 protection as Syria was not "willing or able" to stop terrorist attacks in their countries and it wasn't. Since the end of September, with Russian help, that situation seems to be rapidly changing so there may well soon be a case that that clearly no longer applies.

When it happens Syria will be able to take control of its sovereignty, say that they are "willing and able" tell everyone to stay out or else and be able to enforce it with the help of Russia.

A second RuAF base would be the game changer in this. With its increased capacity and extra S-400(s) covering the rest of the country properly, with minimal radar shadow areas. This is no doubt one of the reasons why Russia and the Government are pushing as hard as they can and why US/NATO is trying to cut them off at the pass by boosting their assets.

Rebels of Ahrar ash Sham flog two men for not closing their shops during Friday prayers:

https://twitter.com/LinaArabii/status/671497611220791296

85 ATGM launches in November 2015:



14 - Jaysh al-Nasr (Ghab Hawks Union)
12 - 1st Coastal Division
10 - Thuwar ash-Sham Battalions
7 - Fursan al-Haqq Brigade
7 - Mountain Hawks Brigade
7 - Central Division (Saifullah Brigade)
5 - Pride Army (Pride Union)
4 - 13th Division
4 - Sultan Murad Brigade
4 - 101th Infantry Division
3 - Nouredin Zanki Movement
3 - ISIS
1 - Nusra Front
1 - 46th Division
1 - 16th Division
1 - Aswad as-Sana Division
1 - Sham Front



73 - TOW
4 - Metis
3 - Fagot
3 - Red Arrow (ISIS)
1 - Kornet
1 - Konkurs



52 - Aleppo (including 45 in South Aleppo)
15 - N. Hama
12 - Latakia
3 - E. Homs (ISIS)
2 - Ghab Plain
1 - Daraa

Source + videos: http://justpaste.it/NovemberATGM
Source for graf: https://twitter.com/yarinah1/status/671577596807770113

I choked on my soda...

Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha 1 hour ago
#SAA #RuAF advance on Jabal Al-Akrad taking Arafit from #Turkey backed militants #Latakia



Военный Советник ‏@miladvisor 1 hour ago
New map.#Latakia mountains. #SAA take control of Arafit,Rweiset Sheikho & Ketf Al-Salatt

sepheronx wrote:http://tass.ru/en/politics/840603

Dunno if it is due to translation or something, but Peskov is not doing himself or Putin any favors. By the sounds of his wording, they are stepping back from their claims about evidence of Turkeys elite purchasing Daesh oil.

Not to keep beating a dead horse, but putin said about the ukrainians, 'just let them dare to shoot at their own people, when we are behind them' and sent his army to the border for 'exercises' to try and scare the ukrainians from beginning the war.

When that bluff failed he backed down and chose another path. It wouldnt surprise me to see russia once again choosing another way round this situation, which will certainly result in other 'incidents' in future that russian servicemen or civilians will have to pay for in blood.

sepheronx wrote:http://tass.ru/en/politics/840603

Dunno if it is due to translation or something, but Peskov is not doing himself or Putin any favors. By the sounds of his wording, they are stepping back from their claims about evidence of Turkeys elite purchasing Daesh oil.

Uh?

Nope, there's clear evidence Oil from Syria is going in Turkey. In such quantities that it can't be some people selling this on the border. To the contrary.
Now there's enough plausible deniability attached to the personna of Erdogan ( no shit). The problem is that the oil isn't disappearing (although Turkey is the Twilight zone).

sepheronx wrote:Pretty pathetic really. When various opposition groups said Putin was soft, they were correct.  I wonder what is preventing them from actually calling people out? Media loves to say Putin does it, but all these little kremlings like Pushkov says something entirely different.  I dont like it.  Wonder how many incidences and deaths Russians will put up with till they tell Putin to act or get lost and get someone else to do it?

And what do you want to do here? Attack Turkey straight shooting and then end up with a situation that gets Turkey to initiate WW3? Turkey had its 15 minutes of glory, shot "by mistake" a Russian jet. All this isn't really getting Russia out of focus or track. With the catch that Turkey can't cross Iraqi AS or Syrian AS under no circumstance what so ever. Probabaly the other planes will also avoid the area allowing Kurds and Syrians a repit. This means that if the Kurds are smart they man up and push to unite the Kurdish areas and seal the border. That's why you had FSA whores trying to knock them out of Aleppo.

Also again, how are you going to prove that the people who deal with ISIS locally are on Erdogan payroll. Off course Erdross knows about this, even touches his protection money, but you can't prove it. Or shall we talk about how much you could prove Russians were in Donbass?

sepheronx wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

sepheronx wrote:Pretty pathetic really. When various opposition groups said Putin was soft, they were correct.  I wonder what is preventing them from actually calling people out? Media loves to say Putin does it, but all these little kremlings like Pushkov says something entirely different.  I dont like it.  Wonder how many incidences and deaths Russians will put up with till they tell Putin to act or get lost and get someone else to do it?

And what do you want to do here? Attack Turkey straight shooting and then end up with a situation that gets Turkey to initiate WW3? Turkey had its 15 minutes of glory, shot "by mistake" a Russian jet. All this isn't really getting Russia out of focus or track. With the catch that Turkey can't cross Iraqi AS or Syrian AS under no circumstance what so ever. Probabaly the other planes will also avoid the area allowing Kurds and Syrians a repit. This means that if the Kurds are smart they man up and push to unite the Kurdish areas and seal the border. That's why you had FSA whores trying to knock them out of Aleppo.

Also again, how are you going to prove that the people who deal with ISIS locally are on Erdogan payroll. Off course Erdross knows about this, even touches his protection money, but you can't prove it. Or shall we talk about how much you could prove Russians were in Donbass?

Well, for starters, total sanctions against turkey. Yet Russia isnt banning various imports like clothing from Turkey and as well still hoping on turk stream pipeline according to tass.  So in other words, business as usual.  Russia was all empty talk about sanctions but all they are sanctioning is some food and closed some dual projects.  So nothing that actually affects Turkey.

What a load of shit Putin is.
[size=40]http://tass.ru/en/economy/840692[/size]

All main projects are dead as we speak. Until there's revenge or there's apology (revenge is a given, apology I don't care). The best answer so far is helping the kurds clear the border. Russia is showing a lot of maturity for a "mob state". So you cool down and wait for the bell.

http://www.syriareport.net/the-silent-hereos-of-the-kuweires-offensive-the-ismaelis/