Syrian Civil War: News #3

ultron wrote:Anyone have any idea what sort of equipment muhajids have that can intercept signals of approaching warplanes?

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/killed-injured-air-strikes-syria-douma-151107085450020.html

The Cannibals have NOTHING ... is NATO who provide them with Satellite communications and warn them every time any airforce take off and is heading to their positions. The terrorist
"Technology" Is NATO technology and all their logistics comes from NATO..specifically US-UK-ISRAEL And TURkey. Terrorist do most of the fighting and the logistics ,supplies ,food and training ,where to go ,which city to attack..when to run ,when to fight all that information comes from from a command CEnter they have in Incirlik Air Base in TUrkey..
that by "coincidence" is somewhat close to Syria.  Cyprus also have spy center from British that they spy all planes that fly over northern Syria.. ISrael also have a spy center near Golan heights where they advice the terrorist when the Syrian airforce is aproaching to them so they hide in their tunnels.  Syria is not fighting rebels without any help..but a NATO major powers proxy war.

Russia electronic warfare however could help some sources said to allow Russian planes
jam NATO radars trying to detect them.

Dima wrote:I think, Syria/Russia need to pull out (first batch) a dozen each of MiG-21 and MiG-23 and give them good upgrade and improve them for precise ground attack in addition to its interceptor/fighter role.

As per wiki SyAAF have the following numbers.

MiG-23 Flogger - 136 (80 MLD/50 BN/6 UM)

MiG-21 Fishbed - ~160 (MF/Bis U/UM R) 40 Reconnaissance/15 Used as Trainers/105 Capable of ground attacks

Su-24 Fencer - 20 (Some upgraded to Su-24M2 variant)

I dont know how much time it will take to upgrade a MiG-21 to the MiG-21-93 or MiG-21-97 standard or for upgrading the MiG-23....hope someone can give some timeline for such upgrades?

The MiG-23 shown in the RT report is a MiG-23MLD which was the last and most modern version of the MiG-23. They got a number of them in Belorussia a few years back before the war....I remember reading that a lot of their older versions also got upgraded to similar standard as well....also in Belorussia.

Their Su-24's are MK2 variant which is the export version of the Su-24M2

The MiG-29's have also undergone some sort of upgrade making them compatible with more modern weaponry...note the pylons for R-77 AAM's



I'm not sure the MiG-21's and 23's are worth upgrading considering they've been in constant use for the past 4 years


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Progress reported in Daraya

Breaking: Syrian Army Imposes Control Over Several Building Blocks in the Strategic City of Darayya
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-syrian-army-imposes-control-over-several-building-blocks-in-the-strategic-city-of-darayya/

Syrian Army Cuts the Strategic Rebel Supply Route in Rural West Damascus
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-cuts-the-strategic-rebel-supply-route-in-rural-west-damascus/

Pro-gov forces claim to have taken Aziziyah and Tel Mamu, and allegedly Tulaylat in south aleppo
http://wikimapia.org/8137903/Aziziyah

Pro-Rebel source says Aziziyah is taken by SAA but clashes continue
https://www.facebook.com/HalabTodayTV/posts/1250395578311211

Official NDF says Aziziyah and Tel Mamu taken
https://www.facebook.com/National.Defence.Forces.NDF/photos/a.434975923224445.97932.434107746644596/929071420481557/?type=3

Few pics of Syrian Airforce fighters

Can anyone give me a full or near full description of Syria's airforce numbers, equipment, modernization and use? I know it is asking for a lot, but a nice rundown would be good.

Cyberspec wrote:The MiG-23 shown in the RT report is a MiG-23MLD which was the last and most modern version of the MiG-23. They got a number of them in Belorussia a few years back before the war....I remember reading that a lot of their older versions also got upgraded to similar standard as well....also in Belorussia.


Their Su-24's are MK2 variant which is the export version of the Su-24M2

The MiG-29's have also undergone some sort of upgrade making them compatible with more modern weaponry...note the pylons for R-77 AAM's



I'm not sure the MiG-21's and 23's are worth upgrading considering they've been in constant use for the past 4 years

Whatz the problem with upgrading a/c that have been in use for 4 years?
Its silly to throw away a/c which could be upgraded to strengthen the SyAAF.
When I mention upgrading the MiG-21/23 I'm looking to making use of them as good interceptors to defend the Syrian airspace in conjunction with A-50 once this worst of the fighting is over. I always mention the A-50 in the Syrian context and would love to see Syria get few of them. The older gen birds like MiG-21/23 numbering nearly 200 or more should not be thrown away, rather they need to be upgraded including installation of RD-33/AL-31. These upgraded fleet along with A-50 will be a good force to recon with and make the backbone of the force untill newer/modern fighters like MiG-29 replace them in numbers in the future.

MiG-29s has to be upgraded to its full potential rather than to fire the R-77. They represent the most modern/combat capable a/c in the SyAAF and should be upgraded to carry the full spectrum of weapons. Syrian neighbors demand such a capability to exist with all the fighters of SyAAF.

Cyberspec wrote:T-72B near Palmyra

Can you post the link to this video?
Is it the same tank we saw being readied to be shipped to Syria recently?

Dima wrote:

Cyberspec wrote:The MiG-23 shown in the RT report is a MiG-23MLD which was the last and most modern version of the MiG-23. They got a number of them in Belorussia a few years back before the war....I remember reading that a lot of their older versions also got upgraded to similar standard as well....also in Belorussia.


Their Su-24's are MK2 variant which is the export version of the Su-24M2

The MiG-29's have also undergone some sort of upgrade making them compatible with more modern weaponry...note the pylons for R-77 AAM's



I'm not sure the MiG-21's and 23's are worth upgrading considering they've been in constant use for the past 4 years

Whatz the problem with upgrading a/c that have been in use for 4 years?
Its silly to throw away a/c which could be upgraded to strengthen the SyAAF.
When I mention upgrading the MiG-21/23 I'm looking to making use of them as good interceptors to defend the Syrian airspace in conjunction with A-50 once this worst of the fighting is over. I always mention the A-50 in the Syrian context and would love to see Syria get few of them. The older gen birds like MiG-21/23 numbering nearly 200 or more should not be thrown away, rather they need to be upgraded including installation of RD-33/AL-31. These upgraded fleet along with A-50 will be a good force to recon with and make the backbone of the force untill newer/modern fighters like MiG-29 replace them in numbers in the future.

MiG-29s has to be upgraded to its full potential rather than to fire the R-77. They represent the most modern/combat capable a/c in the SyAAF and should be upgraded to carry the full spectrum of weapons. Syrian neighbors demand such a capability to exist with all the fighters of SyAAF.

MiG-21-97 seems like it would have been a decent upgrade. An overhaul of the frame, mixed in with the RD-33 engines (modernized to newer variant of course RD-33MK) with newer radar, and the ability to use the newer R-27 variants would give it such new life. Although, for how long? Maybe converting a lot of them to be strike aircrafts and then concentrate MiG-23 and 29's to be more air superiority with newer engines and newer radar (most important). MiG-23 could have a lot of potential of course. Probably bigger radar too.

IRGC and Hezbollah storming rebel positions in souther Aleppo , around Al-Hadher



Current situation

Dima wrote:

Cyberspec wrote:T-72B near Palmyra

Can you post the link to this video?
Is it the same tank we saw being readied to be shipped to Syria recently?

Yes because these are green not desert colored. Link is below.

Dima wrote:

Cyberspec wrote:T-72B near Palmyra

Can you post the link to this video?
Is it the same tank we saw being readied to be shipped to Syria recently?

A bit unlikely its the actual same tank. Maybe from the same batch or from other deliveries.

There is a huge amount of 'stuff' almost certainly including tanks, now transshipping on the highly upcapacitied Syrian Express. Only the highest value or most needed 'stuff' will be airlifted, the rest will be on the ships. That must include large amounts of munitions given the dramatically higher usage of all types of the same across the whole air/ground front since the start of October.

Whatz the problem with upgrading a/c that have been in use for 4 years?

I'm assuming they're pretty worn out and they've been flying for much more than 4 years, although the last few years a lot more intensively

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SAA and allies - Southern Aleppo province

Hmmm....Pretty significant if they take Hadher and cut the nearby road to Aleppo...it's the main stronghold in the area

UNCONFIRMED Reports #SAA #NDF have entered southern Neighborhoods of #Hadher




2 more pics
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTWaVcuXIAAkYzg.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTWaVcvXIAAvErb.jpg


https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/663606213863677952

and a couple more fresh headlines...

ISIS Prevents Civilians in East Aleppo from Fleeing as the Syrian Army Advances on the Kuweires Airport
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-prevents-civilians-in-east-aleppo-from-fleeing-as-the-syrian-army-advances-on-the-kuweires-airport/


Syrian Army Prepares for Massive Offensive in the Islamist Rebel Stronghold of Salma
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-prepares-for-massive-offensive-in-the-islamist-rebel-stronghold-of-salma/

Seems like the Jihadis might have abandoned Hadher  

Syrian Army and Hezbollah Reclaim Talaylat Before Entering the Strategic City of Al-Hadher in Southern Aleppo
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-and-hezbollah-reclaim-talaylat-before-entering-the-strategic-city-of-al-hadher-in-southern-aleppo/

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A bunch of photos of Iraqi Shia militias....apparently flown over by RuAF Il-76's

Harakat Hezbollah al-Nujaba Drag Dead Militant Body with a Vehicle. #SouthernAleppo #Southern_Aleppo  
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/663612067727941632

Few more here https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1

Take it as read then.

Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter has promised to send more American troops into Syria “if the US can find more ‘capable’ local forces to partner with in the fight against ISIL”; His comments to ABC News arrive just days after President Obama authorized the deployment of a small contingent into the country. "If we find additional groups that are willing to fight ISIL and are capable and motivated, we'll do more. The president has indicated a willingness to do more, I certainly am prepared to recommend he do more, but you need to have capable local forces; that's the key to sustainable victory," ABC News quotes Carter as saying this week during an interview aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt in the South China Sea.

On October 30, President Obama authorized the deployment of up to 50 commandoes to be stationed in northern Syria “to advise and assist” in the fight against ISIL.

Two small US teams are supposed to assess the security situation on the ground and coordinate with local Syrian forces in the country. "What they are doing there is they are enabling local forces, a mixture of Kurds and Syrian Arabs, who want to fight ISIL. So this small, very elite group, is intended to bring to bear all that the US can bring to bear, in the way of intelligence, air power and so forth, to help these motivated, capable local forces," Carter told ABC News. "And this is an instance of the whole strategy. We have to beat ISIL. We will beat ISIL. ISIL's heart is in Syria and Iraq."

The news channel however admits that “circumstances may force American soldiers into combat situations.” It recalls that Master Sergeant Joshua L. Wheeler was killed during a raid in Iraq last month. The US defense chief acknowledged the possibility that there could be other such incidents. "It wasn't [Wheeler's] mission to conduct the assault; it was his mission to support the assault. But when he saw the assault get into trouble, he sprang into action. Now that wasn't part of his mission statement, but it was a reflection of tremendous personal heroism on his part," Carter said. "We're sending them into a dangerous situation and it can develop into a combat situation as it did with Joshua Wheeler."

However, the US officials previously emphasized that the US presence will remain narrow in scope and not resemble the large-scale troop deployments of past US operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151109/1029800541/us-carter-syria-troops.html#ixzz3qzU4UYHC

International Military Review - Syria-Iraq Battlespace, Nov. 8, 2015


SAA MORTAR direct hit on ISIS || SYRIA WAR || 07.11.2015 || HD

Heeheeheehee

Breaking : SAA Tiger Forces are expected to enter Kuwires Airbase any minute now

I hope tonight we will see the first photos of this great victory

wilhelm wrote:Heeheeheehee

Why on earth do they upload disasters (to them at least) like this? I am sure it is not so that the rest of us can have a smile.

Great news if true  

I was expecting them to make contact with their comrades inside Kuweries airbase by this weekend. Seems like the jihadist defense lines has collapsed.


This was the situation map yesterday, but not sure if it was the latest?
Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha Nov 8
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha

Btw, its hard even for the hardcore west to ignore that President Assad has support of all sections of the Syrian society and not just the Alawites....so an article to touch upon the Sunni forces fighting for the Syrian Govt with their own spin.

"motivated by fear or simply for lack of a better alternative, many Sunnis remain on the government’s side"

Assad’s Sunni Foot Soldiers

Russia and Iran's intervention in Syria gets all the attention, but many in the country’s majority sect are still fighting for the government. They may hold the key to Syria’s future.

Some more updates from Twitter....hope we'll get confirmation of the progress on Kuweries airbase from http://sana.sy/en/ or from http://almasdarnews.com/


https://twitter.com/MilitaryMaps
MilitaryMaps ‏@MilitaryMaps 2h2 hours ago

“@PetoLucem: NEW MAP: #SAA is about to break #IslamicState siege of #Kuweyres airbase. #Aleppo #Syria ”


SAA have also progressed well along the perimeter of Lake Jabbul.