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    3 Rayan Roshd RU-60G & 1 RU-90/120G thermal sights captured by Nusra south of Aleppo. Most likely were used by Hezbollah, since they were spotted using them some time ago, also it has been delivered to Iraqi Security forces in certain quantities too.

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    "The RU60G is produced in Iran by the privately operated company Rayan Roshd. This is rare in a country where most defense industries are direct subsidiaries of the Ministry of Defense. They specialize in electro-optical systems, producing remote weapon stations, missile seekers, and both handheld & airborne imagers. Despite being privately operated, Rayan Roshd is connected to other state industries and the military itself. They have provided surveillance payloads to Iran’s larger aerospace companies and individual weapon sights to the IRGC. One of their products, the ARIO-H762 remote weapon station (RWS), has even been licensed to Sudan."

    Source: https://twitter.com/green_lemonnn/status/661560849878925312
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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:04 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Or it was handed to their ISIS buddies.

    Or that, but i think its less likely, this despite being quite cheap product holds some very interesting technologies which i doubt US would share just like that where it can easily end up in wrong hands. I just dont see US giving something like this to anyone except Israel in that region.
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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:08 pm

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    Looks like my grandma has great influence in Syrian theatre.
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:16 pm

    Who makes that matrix for those Rasad Rayan thermal imagers?
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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:20 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Who makes that matrix for those Rasad Rayan thermal imagers?

    Mystery to me. Chinese? I dont have other legit source in mind, since i doubt Iran is capable of doing so... i might be wrong tho. And noone else would export such sensitive products to Iran.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:22 pm

    Huge report from Cassad and lots of maps. Could someone give us a summary please? I spent last year learning geography of Ukraine (with limited success) and now I have to start with Syria from scratch... cry

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    Post  sepheronx Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:26 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Who makes that matrix for those Rasad Rayan thermal imagers?

    Mystery to me. Chinese? I dont have other legit source in mind, since i doubt Iran is capable of doing so... i might be wrong tho. And noone else would export such sensitive products to Iran.
    Off topic to this, but have you found any data on Russia's Orion 100% made thermal matrix?  All I know is based upon the Rostec news post about Agat thermal sight for tanks.
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:24 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:All sides that took part in Vienna talks agreed that Syria should remain a secular state, no matter Assad stays or not.

    All that is just Public Relations talk.. what matters is not what they say in front of cameras
    .but what they do in real practice. Only sanctions from European Union to Turkey and Saudi
    arabia and if possible to include also ISrael for their support to terrorism will stop the war.

    In other words.

    Only when there are negative consequences and a very big price to pay for the nations
    sponsoring terrorism..
    only then,,they will stop the war.. Freeze the Saudi Bank Accounts
    they have $700 billions in US banks and you will see how they dance to the tune they are being told to do.. This conflicts in middle east can be stopped by the European Union that is the only
    Power that can really pressure the nations creating the violence in the middle east.

    As long there is no serious negative economic consequences to the bastard Erdogan in Turkey ,to the crazy netanyahu in Israel, and the Saudi Monkey government nothing will change. Damage their economies and as soon they start losing billions every day.. they will show
    they are ready for ending the conflict and withdraw their terrorist from the fight.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:40 pm

    Saudi Arabia does not want a Salafi state in Syria. For KSA the best Syria would be a nationalist state ruled by a combination of secular law and a watered-down version of Sharia - something like a bigger copy of Jordan.

    Contrary to what most of this form thinks, Saudi Arabia is not that hell bent on creating Wahhabi states everywhere. Surely they do support Wahhabi terrorists if it suits their interest but they're willing to work even with secularists - in Egypt KSA supported secular Sisi against islamist Muslim Brotherhood - so thigns aren't that clear.

    Well, money can do miracles and as long as Saudis have money, they are going to be protected by everyone.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:50 pm

    Interesting move by the USAF, A-10 plus F-15C strike force.

    Officially, the deployment of F-15C Eagle twin-engine fighters to Incirlik, Turkey—which the Pentagon announced late last week—is meant to “ensure the safety” of America’s NATO allies, Laura Seal, a Defense Department spokesperson, told The Daily Beast.

    That could mean that the single-seat F-15s and the eight air-to-air missiles they routinely carry will help the Turkish air force patrol Turkey’s border with Syria, intercepting Syrian planes and helicopters that periodically stray into Turkish territory.

    But more likely, the F-15s will be escorting attack planes and bombers as they strike ISIS militants in close proximity to Syrian regime forces and the Russian warplanes that, since early October, have bombed ISIS and U.S.-backed rebels fighting the Syrian troops.

    Seal declined to discuss the deployment in detail, but hinted at its true purpose. “I didn’t say it wasn’t about Russia,” she said.

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    The F-15s the U.S. Air Force is sending to Turkey will be the first American warplanes in the region that are strictly aerial fighters. The other fighters, attack planes and bombers the Pentagon has deployed—including F-22s, F-16s, A-10s and B-1s—carry bombs and air-to-ground missiles and have focused on striking militants on the ground.

    In stark contrast, the F-15s only carry air-to-air weaponry, and their pilots train exclusively for shooting down enemy warplanes. It’s worth noting that F-15Cs have never deployed to Afghanistan, nor did they participate in the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq. The war in Syria is different.

    The dogfighters are part of a broader escalation of the air war over Syria. In addition to jets in Jordan, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates and Navy and Marine planes aboard aircraft carriers, the U.S. Air Force recently added A-10 attack jets and rescue planes and helicopters at Incirlik in Turkey.


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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:27 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Who makes that matrix for those Rasad Rayan thermal imagers?

    Mystery to me. Chinese? I dont have other legit source in mind, since i doubt Iran is capable of doing so... i might be wrong tho. And noone else would export such sensitive products to Iran.

    It's a Gen 2 sight, off course Iran can pull it off, but most likely initial source is ROK.
    Erratum, it's an almost direct copy of JIR Hubei. Chinese/

    http://hbjir.en.alibaba.com/

    http://hbjir.en.alibaba.com/product/678177063-214483701/Monocular_Thermal_camera_night_vision_scope.html

    It still baffles me that Hizb would jump out without these.

    sepheronx wrote:Or it was handed to their ISIS buddies.

    Southern Front moderate assholes.
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    Post  Solncepek Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:01 pm

    Six fighters belonging to Lebanon’s Hezbollah Shia militia have been killed during fighting in Syria, Al-Khaleejonline has reported. According to Al-Jazeera news channel, the death toll of Hezbollah fighters who have been killed since the beginning of the Russian intervention in Syria on 30 September now stands at 32.

    Websites close to Hezbollah confirmed the killing of the six fighters, saying that they were killed while carrying out their “sacred duty”. The group has not revealed the total number of its fighters lost in Syria, but the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights estimates that it is now more than 900.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:35 pm

    Not heard this take on the 50 US special forces in Syria before. Maybe there is even a backlog of casualties.

    Phil Butler — political analyst based in Trier, Germany, commented on the issue in an exclusive interview with Sputnik. “It is a curious announcement that Obama made. It seems like something else is going on which we don’t see right now. It could be a screening operation; these Special Forces could extract something or somebody from these ‘moderate’ rebels.” He went on to say that right now the US policy is total ‘chaos’ as it seems that the US and the coalition is back paddling and thinking what sort of position to take.

    Currently, the US is trying to work out a way to get leverage over Putin’s move in Syria.

    “I don’t think it has anything to do with enhancing the peace process. From what we have seen so far Ukraine, Syria, Georgia all of this West versus East rhetoric almost all of it took place by design, it is a business proposition. Announcing the deployment of 50 Special Forces in Syria, I think that is just letting the American people know that they were there in case one of them gets killed trying to cover up or something else,” Butler said in an interview.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151103/1029553161/us-syria-troops-military-action-isil.html#ixzz3qSVLcmkt
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:40 pm

    Solncepek wrote:Six fighters belonging to Lebanon’s Hezbollah Shia militia have been killed during fighting in Syria, Al-Khaleejonline has reported. According to Al-Jazeera news channel, the death toll of Hezbollah fighters who have been killed since the beginning of the Russian intervention in Syria on 30 September now stands at 32.

    Websites close to Hezbollah confirmed the killing of the six fighters, saying that they were killed while carrying out their “sacred duty”. The group has not revealed the total number of its fighters lost in Syria, but the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights estimates that it is now more than 900.

    Syrian Observatory for Human Rights is a BS organization not worth mentioning or quoting.  Much like Mothers of Soldiers or whatever it is in Russia.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:45 pm

    There is no doubt that Hezbollah lost a lot of fighter since the beginning of the offensive - certainly over 50 killed. Fighting that goes on now is some of the heaviest fighting since the war began.
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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:58 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Who makes that matrix for those Rasad Rayan thermal imagers?

    Mystery to me. Chinese? I dont have other legit source in mind, since i doubt Iran is capable of doing so... i might be wrong tho. And noone else would export such sensitive products to Iran.
    Off topic to this, but have you found any data on Russia's Orion 100% made thermal matrix?  All I know is based upon the Rostec news post about Agat thermal sight for tanks.

    Nothing very informing, just casual stuff that can be found by Googling, if i ever stumble upon something more technical ill keep in mind and send you.
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    Looks like Hezbollah with M16A2.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:23 pm

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    Looks like Hezbollah with M16A2.

    No, Sayyad 5.56 (CQ M311-3), these guys are either Hizb'Allah or Hizb'Ichaat (Kataib Hizb'allah - Iraq).
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    Post  Guest Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:36 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Militarov wrote:

    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 20 CS6DrcLVEAAZf7U

    Looks like Hezbollah with M16A2.

    No, Sayyad 5.56 (CQ M311-3), these guys are either Hizb'Allah or Hizb'Ichaat (Kataib Hizb'allah - Iraq).

    You sure? I never saw S 5.56 with such stock, i assumed its M16 obtained from Iraqi Security Forces, with some of the shelf stock.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:46 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
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    Syrian Civil War: News #3 - Page 20 CS6DrcLVEAAZf7U

    Looks like Hezbollah with M16A2.

    No, Sayyad 5.56 (CQ M311-3), these guys are either Hizb'Allah or Hizb'Ichaat (Kataib Hizb'allah - Iraq).

    You sure? I never saw S 5.56 with such stock, i assumed its M16 obtained from Iraqi Security Forces, with some of the shelf stock.

    It can't be M16A2 because (bear with me I hate the balck shit).

    Windage knob isn't there, forward assist has the A1 shape, the hand guards are heavily ribbed, flash hider is oversized and elongated typical of M16A1.
    Given the Sayyad/CQ is a M16A1 copy, that's normal. Uuugh I feel dirty. Quick pictures of AK...
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:48 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Or it was handed to their ISIS buddies.

    Good thing however is that Russia can very easily counter American drones with counter electronics.. and hijack them without exploding. IF you ask me Russia electronic warfare is
    a game changer in the battle field in modern warfare.. but so far doesn't look like Russia
    is aggressive enough in Syria ,since terrorist continues to communicate freely for the videos
    they upload..  maybe they don't want to reveal all their capabilities yet? or don't want to risk
    their EMP technology being captured? Who knows..

    What is clear however that the more smaller and light is the drone ,the more weaker
    its antenna and more easier to jam it with anything.. This is why i believe US massive
    research in multi mass miniature drone attacks to flood enemy airspace , with hundreds of thousands of bird like drones flying in groups, as cool and future looking it was on the surface
    was blow out of the water and officially killed before it take off. A new form of communications
    will be required that do not use radio waves , perhaps X-ray communications that operates on
    a very high frequency and more faster its transmission. It could be dangerous however give Cancer to the operators or anyone in contact with that.. lol1 if not protected ..

    Maybe True artificial intelligence drones is the way forward. That can emulate human senses
    and guide itself through visual guidance. Still Electronics needs to go to.. for something like photononics..some more advanced circuits of energy transmission using light communications.
    Russia could be close to that or already working on it.
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    Post  Vann7 Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:36 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Saudi Arabia does not want a Salafi state in Syria. For KSA the best Syria would be a nationalist state ruled by a combination of secular law and a watered-down version of Sharia - something like a bigger copy of Jordan.

    Contrary to what most of this form thinks, Saudi Arabia is not that hell bent on creating Wahhabi states everywhere. Surely they do support Wahhabi terrorists if it suits their interest but they're willing to work even with secularists - in Egypt KSA supported secular Sisi against islamist Muslim Brotherhood - so thigns aren't that clear.

    Well, money can do miracles and as long as Saudis have money, they are going to be protected by everyone.

    The wahhabi terrorist ideology is part of Saudi laws.. people there ,womens are beheaded almost every week.. Womens stonned to dead.  There is no difference dude between ISIS laws and Saudi Laws.. basically the same thing. Being gay in saudi Arabia is sentence of death.. people cut their hands.. even music is illegal.. so little you know about Saudi Arabia.. Is a nation that beaten womens is legal and is a right of every men.. IF any man rape a women.. the government blames the women for it ,for not being outside.. and blamed her for "tempting the man into rape her" .  Saudi Arabia is a barbaric nation.. a protectorate of USA. And they have license to be barbaric because they oil business is very important for US economy. In the year 2015 Saudi Arabia have behead more people than ISIS.. lol1 And don't dare to be handsome man there either, you will be arrested for that.. Is a real barbaric medieval nation.

    You are terribly mistaken about Saudi Arabia.. is a terrorist state. All this ISIS and Alqaeda
    terror comes from the Saudi Culture.  Iran is far  better that Saudi Arabia but still far from a
    free nation.is still religious fanatic totalitarian state. And any Iranian converting to Christianity is a death sentence. The whole Muslin world is repression of human expression and basic rights.
    countries like Syria and Lebanon and Egypt in middle east are distancing from strict Islam controlled form of government. and this is one of the real reason of the endless violence there.why Jihadist religious fanatics fighters wants to overthrow their governments. US ,Saudi ,Turkey and ISrael fuels the conflict with weapons and money too.


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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:44 am

    Vann, read my post once again carefully, word by word. You completely missed my point.
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    Post  Vann7 Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:59 am

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Vann, read my post once again carefully, word by word. You completely missed my point.



    i did.. but you are mistaken.
    Saudi is a terrorist state dude.. get that clear . They are the major financiers of terrorism
    in the world. And behind the chechen terrorist attack in Russia school and the chechen war.


    in Egypt KSA supported secular Sisi against islamist Muslim Brotherhood - so thigns aren't that clear.


    Saudi Support Egypt because it controls the Suez Canal and none of Saudi Oil could travel to
    Europe if Egypt blocks their business. So is a purely Economical relation Saudi buy Egypt favors with Billions they receive from them.. the Mistral for example will be paid by Saudi Arabia to Egypt. ,same way that Russia and Turkey that is purely economical..even though Turkey is the most hostile nation near Russia borders after the new power in Ukraine.

    Again Saudis are animals ,pure barbaric culture. When you have the daughter of the Saudi king
    asking the world to overthrow her family from power ,can only show you how bad it is the state.




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