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    Syrian Civil War: News #3

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    Post  sepheronx Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:30 pm

    http://m.ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20151027/1309048321.html?rubric=sys_daynews&sort=sortkey

    US wants a no fly zone in Syria. How the hell will they deal with Russia on this? It wont happen in UN agreement.
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    Post  iraqidabab Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:38 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    Solncepek wrote:Washington believes that about 2,000 Iranian military forces to help in Syria President Bashar Assad, and more than 1,000 military remains in Iraq, supporting the government in Baghdad, said on Tuesday, October 27 an officer of the United States.

    Marine Corps Gen. Joseph F. Dunford, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that the number of Iranian forces in Iraq has fluctuated over time.

    "I think that more than 1,000 Iranian military are serving in Iraq," - said Dunford.

    "In Syria, we believe this number is a little more - about 2,000 military," - he added.
    http://mignews.com/news/politic/world/271015_180225_76412.html

    Update :
    Someone just gave Syria rebels Chinese-made FN-6 anti-aircraft missiles.
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    They had FN-6s back in 2013. they probably just now released new photos.

    Qatar bought FN-6 from Sudan and sent em through Turkey. Very dangerous game they're playing, meanwhile UN is silent, US doesn't stop Qatar/Turkey from doing it.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Oct 27, 2015 8:01 pm


    According to this, Syrian counteroffensive has stalled but keep in mind that I got this link from some closeted ultra-liberal asshat on Defencetalk so it could be bogus:

    http://sokol-ff.livejournal.com/1114461.html

    Anyway, more ordinance downrange is always welcome... Twisted Evil
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:21 pm

    Apparently there have been major progress in Aleppo..
    if this claims are true.. indeed is really major good news..

    Syrian Army Liberates 50 Villages in Aleppo Province - Source




    The Syrian Army, with the support of armed militia fighters, has liberated 50 villages in the south-east of Aleppo province, a militia source said Tuesday.

    According to the source, residents of at least two villages had begun returning to their households to clear the rubble.

    "Yesterday, the army advanced deep towards the Idlib province. We have liberated some 50 villages and took hold of an area of about 120 square kilometers [some 46 sq. miles]," a source from the Desert Hawks armed militia group told RIA Novosti.

    The Desert Hawks was formed at the start of the crisis in Syria four years ago, by retired Syrian army officer Mohamed Jaber. The unit consists of between 4 and 5 thousand people, comprised of fighters of various religions and from all regions of the country.  All of the actions of the militia are fully coordinated with the Syrian army, RIA Novosti reported.

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151027/1029198421/syrian-army-aleppo-advance.html


    About US boots on the ground.. they are already in Syria ,what they are now trying to
    do is do it openly.. Good luck trying to defeat the Syrian Army + hezbolah + IRAN + Russian volunteers with Russian Air support. Unless Americans do a full scale invasion and blocks somehow Russia from Flying over Syria.. using a magic wand.. they will be just a a drop of water in the ocean.. because 1,000 to 2,000 NATO forces without heavy artillery or tanks
    and without Air support will be just walking dead mans..  They will be at range of Syrian Artillery and their Airforce will not be able to defend them.  Without first removing Russia by force from Syria Airspace. Syrian airforce will also be there and any shot down of any Syrian plane will be retaliated by RUssia from whenever the fire came. All this suggest to me.. that the "boots of the ground" is just a show , Psychological game..to increase the pressure Russia to back down.. and force Russia to negotiate the surrender of Syria to US Imperialism.. Good luck with that.  Me believes Americans are heading to the major defeat in history of their lives.
    Even the Pentagon recently read today ,they admits that The Balance of Power in Syria is on Assad side.

    So means US forces might be able to enter Syria..but they will not be able to hold or stay for long or do any offensive against Syrian troops.. Russia can jam their communications too..
    and NATO cannot fight Russian planes.. so it will be really humiliating.  Cool   It remember me
    the time that a few hundred of Russian troops went to Serbia to defend an airport ,but that it was too little and too late and did no difference in the conflict. What NATO did was ignore them
    and block their movements..  THis is what Russia and Syria will need to do.. To block US forces in the ground from moving freely. if they manage to enter .  It will be embarrassing when Syria
    liberates Aleppo and Idlib and they just forced to run towards turkey again. Pentagon is now in
    a Psychological war against Russia ,to pressure them to back down in Syria. What could be even
    more embarrasing and Russia should help Syrian army to do is arrest American soldiers in Syria as soon they enter. and demand their families to come to Syria to get them.. That will truly be embarrassing for the US world image.. very . lol1
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    Post  Solncepek Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:43 pm

    Source: NBC

    Ashton Carter: U.S. to Begin 'Direct Action on the Ground' in Iraq, Syria

    Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said Tuesday that the U.S. will begin "direct action on the ground" against ISIS forces in Iraq and Syria, aiming to intensify pressure on the militants as progress against them remains elusive.

    "We won't hold back from supporting capable partners in opportunistic attacks against ISIL, or conducting such missions directly whether by strikes from the air or direct action on the ground," Carter said in testimony before the Senate Armed Services committee, using an alternative name for the militant group.

    Carter and Pentagon officials initially refused to characterize the rescue operation as U.S. boots on the ground. However, Carter said last week that the military expects "more raids of this kind" and that the rescue mission "represents a continuation of our advise and assist mission."

    This may mean some American soldiers "will be in harm's way, no question about it," Carter said last week.




    Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sec-carter-direct-u-s-action-ground-iraq-syria-n452131
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    Post  George1 Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:31 pm

    IS militants airlifted from Syria to Yemen, Saudi Arabia — Syrian army spokesman

    According to the reconnaissance data, on October 26 four planes from Turkey arrived to the airport of the city of Aden (Yemen) with more than 500 IS militants taken from Syria on board

    LATAKIA (Syria), October 27. /TASS/. The Islamic State (IS) militants have been airlifted from Syria by Turkish aircraft to save them from Russian airstrikes, spokesman for the Syrian Armed Forces Brigadier General Ali Mayhub said on Tuesday.

    "On October 26, according to the reconnaissance data, four planes from Turkey arrived to the airport of the city of Aden (Yemen). Two of them belong to Turkish Airlines, one — to Qatar Airways and one more aircraft owned by an airline of the United Arab Emirates," said the Syrian army spokesman. "There were more than 500 militants of the Islamic State terrorist organization on board, they were taken from Syria to save them from Russian airstrikes," General Mayhub said.

    According to him, "the militants were met by officers of the Saudi coalition that took them from the airport in three groups. The first went to the city of Al-Bab in Mandeb province (Yemen), the second — to Marib (Yemen), the third — to the Saudi regions of Jizan and Asir."
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Oct 28, 2015 12:55 am

    Solncepek wrote:Source: NBC

    Ashton Carter: U.S. to Begin 'Direct Action on the Ground' in Iraq, Syria

    Defense Secretary Ashton Carter said Tuesday that the U.S. will begin "direct action on the ground" against ISIS forces in Iraq and Syria, aiming to intensify pressure on the militants as progress against them remains elusive.

    "We won't hold back from supporting capable partners in opportunistic attacks against ISIL, or conducting such missions directly whether by strikes from the air or direct action on the ground," Carter said in testimony before the Senate Armed Services committee, using an alternative name for the militant group.

    Carter and Pentagon officials initially refused to characterize the rescue operation as U.S. boots on the ground. However, Carter said last week that the military expects "more raids of this kind" and that the rescue mission "represents a continuation of our advise and assist mission."

    This may mean some American soldiers "will be in harm's way, no question about it," Carter said last week.

    Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sec-carter-direct-u-s-action-ground-iraq-syria-n452131
    Thanks for including the links. Hope to see more in the future.
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    Post  Erk Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:17 am

    George1 wrote:IS militants airlifted from Syria to Yemen, Saudi Arabia — Syrian army spokesman

    According to the reconnaissance data, on October 26 four planes from Turkey arrived to the airport of the city of Aden (Yemen) with more than 500 IS militants taken from Syria on board

    LATAKIA (Syria), October 27. /TASS/. The Islamic State (IS) militants have been airlifted from Syria by Turkish aircraft to save them from Russian airstrikes, spokesman for the Syrian Armed Forces Brigadier General Ali Mayhub said on Tuesday.

    "On October 26, according to the reconnaissance data, four planes from Turkey arrived to the airport of the city of Aden (Yemen). Two of them belong to Turkish Airlines, one — to Qatar Airways and one more aircraft owned by an airline of the United Arab Emirates," said the Syrian army spokesman. "There were more than 500 militants of the Islamic State terrorist organization on board, they were taken from Syria to save them from Russian airstrikes," General Mayhub said.

    According to him, "the militants were met by officers of the Saudi coalition that took them from the airport in three groups. The first went to the city of Al-Bab in Mandeb province (Yemen), the second — to Marib (Yemen), the third — to the Saudi regions of Jizan and Asir."

    Hopefully they took some pictures as evidence that those Arab states are backing ISIS.
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    Post  Cyberspec Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:28 am

    Erk wrote:Hopefully they took some pictures as evidence that those Arab states are backing ISIS.

    They're hardly trying to hide their support beyond verbal declarations
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    Post  ultron Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:40 am

    If American soldiers set foot in Syria illegally, then they'll be shot at by Iraqi Shia militias. Iraqi Shia militias will not tolerate any kaffar Americans in Iraq or Syria.
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    Post  Erk Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:43 am



    South Front Military Review Oct 27th.

    1,100 Iraqi paramilitary fighters have arrived to the Aleppo province under direct orders from Major General Qassem Suleimani – the commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps’ elite “Quds Force”
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    Post  ultron Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:30 am

    One thing I don't get is why SAA is not a big fan of mortars? Mortars played a huge role in Donbas. 120 mm can do wonders on the battle field.
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    Post  Guest Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:43 am

    ultron wrote:One thing I don't get is why SAA is not a big fan of mortars? Mortars played a huge role in Donbas. 120 mm can do wonders on the battle field.

    They use mortars alot, M1943 most notably since its most numerous mortar in their service, however they have alot more D30s, since mortars in their previous wars with Israel proved less useful than guns/howtizers due to short range, so they obtained huge amounts of M46 guns, and D30s. In fights with Israel it was question of "who has longer stick", Syrian army is made to fight different type of wars.
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    Post  ultron Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:45 am

    Militarov wrote:
    ultron wrote:One thing I don't get is why SAA is not a big fan of mortars? Mortars played a huge role in Donbas. 120 mm can do wonders on the battle field.

    They use mortars alot, M1943 most notably since its most numerous mortar in their service, however they have alot more D30s, since mortars in their previous wars with Israel proved less useful than guns/howtizers due to short range, so they obtained huge amounts of M46 guns, and D30s. In fights with Israel it was question of "who has longer stick", Syrian army is made to fight different type of wars.

    120 mm mortars can shoot more than 7 km, not exactly short range considering most engagements are about 1 to 2 km. SAA needs more 120 mm mortars. These can be air dropped from transport planes.
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    Post  Guest Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:56 am

    ultron wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    ultron wrote:One thing I don't get is why SAA is not a big fan of mortars? Mortars played a huge role in Donbas. 120 mm can do wonders on the battle field.

    They use mortars alot, M1943 most notably since its most numerous mortar in their service, however they have alot more D30s, since mortars in their previous wars with Israel proved less useful than guns/howtizers due to short range, so they obtained huge amounts of M46 guns, and D30s. In fights with Israel it was question of "who has longer stick", Syrian army is made to fight different type of wars.

    120 mm mortars can shoot more than 7 km, not exactly short range considering most engagements are about 1 to 2 km. SAA needs more 120 mm mortars. These can be air dropped from transport planes.

    Trust me 7km is nothing when you fight on flat desert or terrain in waves like Golan Heighs, mortar is weapon of mountains and urban warfare partially today due to quality of recon/DA platforms, however on flat terrain it lost its value gradually though time. And why drop mortar mines from transport aircraft if you can drop low yield HE-FRAG bombs, 100ish kg.
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    Post  Vann7 Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:26 pm



    India warns ISIS could get nukes from Pakistan

    https://www.rt.com/news/263681-isis-get-nukes-pakistan/



    India is concerned that ISIS could get nuclear weapons and
    that they could use against them.. But...  

    What is INDIA doing to solve the problem and counter ISIS?

    This ^^ kind of aptitude of radical self centered nations
    that could see the world in the brink of a world war (Russia vs US) and not even move a finger
    to counter balance it.. as long they are not the ones attacked , is what allows all this terror
    and all this evilness to continue to exist.  This destructive nations US and its pro ISIS coalition continues with their illegal wars..only because there is next to zero opposition to their actions with the only exception of Russia..being a strong opposition. This is because they do nothing and prefer to stay in a comfort zone , more worried about making business deals even with the nations supporting ISIS. when they could do something to pressure western powers to stop.
    And nothing could pressure more the PRO ISIS coalition.. to stop than by joining Russia alliance.
    The war in Syria only continues to exist because 99% of the planet do nothings..and Powerful
    countries like India but also China look to the sides.

    Russia asked for a World Coalition against ISIS , but where is that help? where is the line?
    Where are the BRICS ?  You could understand nations like South Africa and Brazil being weak countries and far from conflict zone.. but India..? or China?   They have powerful armies and could do a difference in the world and stop US/NATO imperialism and destruction of middle east
    and destruction of Asia that will be next and it will affect them too.  This so lam self centered aptitude is what really sucks in all this good for nothing nations.. that are only worried about
    increasing their GDP and could see millions being exterminated near their borders and they continue cooperating with western Imperialism ,business as usual.   No

    India could have send a few fighter combat jets or at very least send their warships to Syrian
    Coast to be Present in the conflict and show some support.. help in the security of Russian warships by doing patrols around their positions.. but so far.. Good For Nothing nations will continue to be good for nothing nations ,completely irrelevant nations in world politics and that
    actually helps in the destruction of it. because they look to the sides when have the opportunity
    do something positive in the world but instead choose to do nothing.

    And India (just like CHina) should be aware that if US coalition ISIS mercenaries non stopped
    and allowed to over Run Syria and IRAQ.. it will have a serious consequence for the entire world. they will just become more powerful ,recruit Jihadist world wide more easily ,and this time they will be armed very well with modern weapons and later NATO will use this same terror
    groups to attack INdia and Asia.. Then Terrorism will become a proxy weapon of US empire and
    used against Independent countries.. yes just like INDIA.. to blackmail them..and demand them to become a puppet state or else US will send their freedom fighters against them.  This is
    exactly what happened to Syria...  Hillary Clinton visit Damascus in 2011 to threaten Assad
    with a major war if they do not give up to American Imperialism and he refused..and the next
    day the "Freedom fighters" by "coincidence" after Hillary visit and Assad refusal to American demands the violence in Syria began..thats when terrorism began in Syria to attack its Cities..

    go to min 16.00  and see by yourself what  Turkey journalist and politicians said.
    about the reality of what triggered the Syrian violence and who did it.


    All this Pro ISIS coalition continues with their illegal war..for the only reason that there is
    very little resistance to their destructive actions in the middle east ,consequence of so many
    so irresponsible nations like India that see major destruction in the world and does nothing and look to the sides.

    and this is really Retarded and Stupid because sooner or later this same violence that Syria
    experience will be exported to India too.. IF they are not stopped. but also exported to all Asia to every nation who refuse to become a puppet state of the west and maintain their economy.

    it was for nothing that was said..

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:54 pm

    What should India do? They aren't Saudis or Americans with their trigger-happy attitude and a penchant for proxy wars... India has few enemies, is geographicaly well placed (no real borders except with Pakistan), no history of violent conquests outside of it's historical borders... and generally tries to stay neutral.

    When it comes to ISIS... well. India is generally weak and has a policy of subservience vis-a-vis it's own Muslim population. It even subsidizes the pilgrimage to Mecca while no Muslim country does that. Indian Muslims are anti-Hindu and if ISIS invaded India, most of them would not give a f... about their homeland and would side with ghazis instead.
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    Post  Vann7 Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:07 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:What should India do? They aren't Saudis or Americans with their trigger-happy attitude and a penchant for proxy wars... India has few enemies, is geographicaly well placed (no real borders except with Pakistan), no history of violent conquests outside of it's historical borders... and generally tries to stay neutral.

    When it comes to ISIS... well. India is generally weak and has a policy of subservience vis-a-vis it's own Muslim population. It even subsidizes the pilgrimage to Mecca while no Muslim country does that. Indian Muslims are anti-Hindu and if ISIS invaded India, most of them would not give a f... about their homeland and would side with ghazis instead.

    You need to stop Evil whenever it shows.. Being a coward and doing nothing is what will cause
    the destruction of the world.  If you a serial killer murdering a family.. IT IS YOUR Obligation to stop him.. you can't just look to the other side.. oh is not my family is not my problem.
    It is that selfish irresponsible aptitude  ,what allows this world to be so fucked the way it is.
    Because nations that could oppose/resist to major injustices do nothing.whenever they have an opportunity to resist and oppose it.

    India could help a lot Russia.. without sending a single soldier
    to Syria.. as i told you.. India can support Russia and send their navy to the Syrian Coast and
    help Russia navy in their security..of their base. that will dissuade any plans to attack Russia
    by crazy nations.  India can provide weapons to Assad fight ISIS too..India could send AWACS or Drones and help with the monitoring and intelligence of ISIS positions and other terrorist groups..a lot they can do without firing a single shot . This will also benefit them with their training of their armed forces of how to deal with ISIS and other terrorism.. India can do a
    millions of things to make it more difficult for US coalition to continue with their illegal war..
    Israel for example will not attack India planes helping Russia with the intelligence of ISIS positions,because India buys lots of israel weapons.. see? India and so China can stop buying Oil from saudi Arabia as protest for their policies in Middle east . India and so China can do lots of things ,to resist and create pressure on the nations provoking a major world war. to continue with this madness.

    but so far they do nothing.. zero.. Nada.. India have the third most powerful Airforce in the world and the third largest economy and nothing they do. If for any reason Russia is defeated in Syria, Those same terror that is in the middle east ,India will have to face later..because they are not aligned with Americans Imperialism. The world is the way it is ,so fucked..
    because there is NO resistance to bad nations doing illegal things..  India should know alot
    about resistance.. because it was through resistance to the British empire that they gained their
    independence.  Resistance works.. but being lame and doing nothing don't work. If the powerful countries resisted US wars.. NATO will be unable to continue to do anything and ISIS will not even exist.  It is the passiveness of Good nations ,that does nothing what allows Evil Nations to continue destroying the world ,because of the lack of resistance. So far Russia is the only resistance we have to save this world from its own autodestruction. We are dealing here with world war 3 ..this is not a small thing..and deserve attention. And a world war can only happen if Americans do not find any strong opposition to their illegal wars. only Russia until now is opposing this.. directly.. but it doesn't need to be this way.. if we had more responsible nations
    in the world like Russia caring for a fair world and the rights of every nation to control their future.

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:08 pm


    lol1

    https://twitter.com/leithfadel

    "Daeshbag "Abu Popeye Al-Sailor" was killed in Deir Ezzor. Should have stuck to his spinach diet. "

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSW3CF1UYAAYSBS.jpg



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    Post  ultron Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:41 pm

    Qaeda captured Sukayk and Jabboul after, as usual, SAA tucked their tails and run after encountering the slightest assault from guys who don't have artillery or air power. I don't know they bother to use SAA in this war at all. angry SAA is just about the most useless army in the whole world. They should only use Iranians and Iraqis to fight Qaeda in Syria on the ground.

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    Post  Cyberspec Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:03 pm

    'Poor' Popeye..

    Ultron,

    take it easy with your tirades...that "useless" SAA hammered ISIS at Al-Safira today

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    Interesting analysis on the prospects in Syria and the conflict taken in perspective

    Syria Express: Russia is forced to increase its fighting power in Syria
    http://southfront.org/syria-express-russia-is-forced-to-increase-its-fighting-power-in-syria/
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    Post  ultron Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:07 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:'Poor' Popeye..

    Ultron,

    take it easy with your tirades...that "useless" SAA hammered ISIS at Al-Safira today

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    Interesting analysis on the prospects in Syria and the conflict taken in perspective

    Syria Express: Russia is forced to increase its fighting power in Syria
    http://southfront.org/syria-express-russia-is-forced-to-increase-its-fighting-power-in-syria/

    In Safira there are loads of Iraqis and Iranians. If it was only SAA Safira would have fallen. Heck, even Damascus would have fallen.
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    Post  zg18 Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:31 pm

    Huge ISIS losses today in northern Aleppo , tweeter "sources" say 50+ fighters dead



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    Post  OminousSpudd Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:06 pm

    ultron wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:'Poor' Popeye..

    Ultron,

    take it easy with your tirades...that "useless" SAA hammered ISIS at Al-Safira today

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    Interesting analysis on the prospects in Syria and the conflict taken in perspective

    Syria Express: Russia is forced to increase its fighting power in Syria
    http://southfront.org/syria-express-russia-is-forced-to-increase-its-fighting-power-in-syria/

    In Safira there are loads of Iraqis and Iranians. If it was only SAA Safira would have fallen. Heck, even Damascus would have fallen.

    By that logic Assad should be dead with a bayonet up his butt by now. Seriously Ultron, get off the grass. Changing from a defensive mentality to an effective offensive one takes time.

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