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    Post  nomadski Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:04 pm





    https://en.irna.ir/news/84851374/Salman-Rushdie-attacked-by-knife-at-New-York


    I have not read his book " the satanic verses ,  " I have better things to do . But from the title alone , it is obvious to me that : this author did not aim at publishing a scholarly work on religious studies . But he aimed to court infamy , in order at least to attract attention and sell as many copies and make money . He was told before publishing the Book " not to publish it .  " Therefore be knew the danger he subjected himself and others by publishing .

    But which is worse ? Throwing insult at a prophet of religion or the killing and assassination of the transgression ? In my view killing the offender is far worse a crime . Far worse than a lunatic throwing insults at religion . Muslims should not be proud or happy about this attack .

    This problem of blasphemy in the Muslim world , and subsequent killings and executions exists in many countries . The right punishment for an individual who throws insult at religion with the aim of causing public disorder , is at maximum a small  fine .

    However scholarly and objective historical study of religion should be allowed , even if it is found that it reveals mistakes or problems that contradict the official religious narratives , that are usually subject to political falsification and revisionism . Islam itself has many problems : amputations , early marriage for women , excessive prayers  and belief in the " Jin , " an inclusion of pre-Islamic fire God ! Excessive clothing for women , a product of a time , when agriculture and wealth allowed women to choose marriage partners ........

    I hope a quick recovery for Mr . Rushdie . Although I dislike his Book , which is a cheap shot at Islam , in order to sell a Book . Muslims need a tolerant and scientific understanding of their religion , it's correct and incorrect points . I dislike some Iranians expressing happiness at his stabbing or likely death . Ayat . Khomeini also wrongly sentenced a lot of innocent people , socialists and democrats , to death . That was and is wrong also .


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bDe9msExUK8
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    Post  GarryB Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:24 am

    Play stupid games... win stupid prizes...

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    Post  nomadski Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:49 am

    The amount of fine imposed , should be proportional to the cost of any damages to property and persons and  removal of offensive material ( incitement or hate ) or persons , from illegal locations . The punishment should fit the crime . If Rush- die , lived in Islamic country , then proper fine would be : cost of removing books from sale and cost of policing any Riots or damage to property . Probably a higher fine not death sentence !


    The West makes this literary " genius " into a hero with title of " sir ! " , since they see that he pokes fun at Muslims and causes Riots ! Same as Charlie Hebdo , have hate speech sold under banner of " free speech ! " or pussy Riot made into Artistic vanguard by West , not for Artistic value , but because it causes social disturbances .
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    Post  GarryB Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:44 am

    They have a long history of hippocracy... if you are telling the truth but about western crimes like Assange or Snowden or Manning you are either in jail or exile... if they were Chinese or Russian or North Korean they would be on the front page of Time magazine because they are saving the world...

    Crimes are not crimes when western heros are responsible... exposing real crimes and doing you civic duty is a crime in the west... in fact Assange is a more widely known criminal than the people responsible for real war crimes that he exposed that were never brought to justice...

    This is the sort of corruption and double standards that Russia and China and now the growing BRICS family are fighting... ironic because the west is so moralistic and ethical you would think it would be something they were starting...

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    Post  nomadski Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:42 am

    Hypocrisy is a disease of humankind . I was thinking what is the difference between Disneyland and Mickey Mouse and many religions , Churches and Mosques and Temples and parliaments today ? Someone thought about a " talking Mouse " and drew a cartoon many years ago . Of course we know that there are no such creatures in reality . But children and some adults liked it . Later they built Disneyland , full of fantastic creatures , including Mickey Mouse . They filled it with colour and noises that attract , not unlike many religious buildings and King's Castles and fancy parliament buildings we see today .

    Later , when there was war and killing , they painted the picture of this talking Mouse on the planes that dropped bombs on people and killed them . Same as the Christian clergy singing the marching song " ...Onward Christian soldiers... ,  " during WWI . Or the torture and murder of even scientists and astronomers  by the Christian Church during the Spanish inquisition . Or giving the keys of " heaven " to children to walk over minefields to clear them , during Iran / Iraq war . Or the killing of socialists and democrats by " religious " ruling in Iran .


    A talking Mouse or an Angel with 20,000 wings , or Ezekiel' s wheel of heaven , then turn into instruments for killing . Here these Mickey Mouse men of " God " , enjoy causing fear " ....look at you hide and fear us , we kill and enjoy killing you  ! " We kill in the name of Jesus and Moses and Muhammad and Budda and Karl Marx and Mickey Mouse !


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZPzHg0h80

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