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    Isos
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    Post  Isos Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:55 pm

    Since serbia is getting upgraded mig-29 and buk/pantsir from russia and belorussia, mig-21 is off the table even upgraded it would be a useless aircraft.

    Israeli f-16 will offer them more capacity with HARM and better radar than mig-21's.
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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:04 am

    Isos wrote:Since serbia is getting upgraded mig-29 and buk/pantsir from russia and belorussia, mig-21 is off the table even upgraded it would be a useless aircraft.

    Israeli f-16 will offer them more capacity with HARM and better radar than mig-21's.

    is croatia and serbia going to war anytime soon??????????????

    croatia or Serbia is very unlikely to go to war again croatia doesn't need high tech equipment. Last i heard the israeli F-16 deal was cancelled.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:56 am

    Sadly need doesn't come in to it... there will be pressure to buy F-16s for all insignificant countries sucking up to the US... there was even talk of New Zealand buying F-16s to replace our Skyhawks...

    With current US pressure to its first line allies to buy F-35s they will want the less rich allies to buy up all the newly available second hand F-16s to keep their spares sales working... need or want does not come in to it.

    If Croatia really wanted to become a useful part of NATO it would buy super cheap simple LIFT to protect its own airspace like Italian version Yak-130s, and spend the money it saved on Il-76s and other transport aircraft that would actually be much more use to NATO operations than more fighter planes that every nation takes with it to conflicts.

    But of course the US knows they can't afford C-17s and Europe knows they can't afford A-400Ms, so they will only be happy with them buying second hand F-16s instead... anything else will get them in the shit... even though a dozen Il-76 transports would be 100 times more useful than two dozen F-16s in most HATO operations and exercises...
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    Post  George1 Fri May 21, 2021 2:17 pm

    Croatian Air Force chooses French Dassault Rafale F3R fighters
    Today, 13: 38

    The protracted Croatian tender for new fighters has finally come to its logical conclusion, Zagreb has decided on the replacement of the Soviet MiG-21 bis fighters. According to local media reports, the choice of the Croats fell on the French Dassault Rafale fighters.

    The Croatian government declared France the winner of the tender for the supply of fighters for the republic's air force and intends to enter into pre-contract negotiations with the French. In the final round, France with Dassault Rafale fighters overtook the USA with F-16V Block 70/72 fighters.

    According to preliminary information, the Croats want to buy 12 Rafale fighters from the French Air Force. All aircraft must be modified to F3R standard and not older than 10 years. If the contract is signed, the fighters will be delivered in 2024 and 2025.

    The cost of the contract, which, in addition to the aircraft themselves, will include training, weapons and various equipment, "just under $ 1 billion."

    Recall that Croatia announced the first tender for the replacement of the Soviet-made MiG-21 bis in 2017. As a result, Israel won in 2018, offering for $ 500 million to supply 12 F-16 Barak fighters from the Air Force, two simulators and pilot training services. However, the deal was blocked by the United States, which also participated in the tender for the new F-16V Block 70/72 fighters).

    After that, a second tender was announced and by November last year, the United States (F-16V Block 70/72 new construction), Israel (modernized F-16C / D Block 30 out of stock), France (Rafale F3R out of stock) and Sweden (JAS-39C / D Gripen new build). The Americans and the French reached the final, but the latter were more fortunate and now the Croats are planning to fly on the Dassault Rafale.

    https://en.topwar.ru/183217-horvatskie-vvs-popolnjatsja-francuzskimi-istrebiteljami-dassault-rafale-f3r.html

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