O'm not claiming that the ukrops didn't shoot down MH17: All evidence points out to an AAM and 30mm gun fire. What I'm saying is that why would the ukrops use a Su-25 when they had MiG-29s and Su-27s to do the job far more efficiently, not to mention they needed the Su-25s for ground attack.
I completely believe it was a Ukrop MiG-29 which shot down MH17.
The best report/theory comes from Veterans Today .com..
People need to remember that when the malasyan plane crashed.. there was like 10,000
Ukrainians in cauldrons..with many hundreds tanks and artillery all encircled by the Rebels.
and they needed a way to quickly lift the siege ,before the ukies surrender their weapons.
And thats when the malasyan plane was shot down.
The idea apparently was to make the malasyan plane crash in the war zones and later claim
the rebels did it.. but it was expected the plane to fall in Ukraine controlled zones . So a combat
plane air to air missile (or now according to Antei ..a Buk-M1 defense) fired a missile to show down the plane.. but it did not collapsed as they expected and were forced to finish it off with the SU-25 before it reach Russia territory. So after being hit one time.. the Malasyan plane did a turn to the left or right which ended with the plane falling in REbels controlled zone.
Russia government original theory was that the ukies used the Buks radars to illuminate the
Malasyan plane position and trajectory and guide the Sukhoi SU-25 to its interception.
In any case the most factual information we have is Russian Radars and Satellites images..
that shows combat planes flying close to the malasyan plane before it crash.. if Russia can proof beyond doubt their data is not photoshoped and real.. then it will be very hard for kiev to proof
they are innocent.
In my opinion what i think..is the Buks missiles were not used other than to guide the combat planes... reason for not using the Buks? missiles perhaps the smoke trial will reveal from where the attack came.. and instead Ukraine airforce used a Custom made air to air missile with similar explosive warhead of the Buks-m1 missiles. and that they were forced to use cannon fire to accelerate the fall of the plane. What is also interesting is that when the Malasyan plane crash.. there was US warships near Ukraine with full radar view of the malasyan plane trajectory and that they released no information from their radars about the malasyan plane flight path and the skies over Ukraine at the time of the crash of the plane.
If rebels ever captured one buk-m1 launcher as some unoficial rumors claimed.. it had to be because Ukraine abandoned it on purpose to get the rebels framed for the plane they were planning to shot down. Another thing not mentioned is how Donetsk ministry claimed the bodies inside the malasyan plane,some of them were already in advance rotten state just two hours after the plane crash.. as if they died days earlier..
Which will point to a plane that had people killed already before the plane crashed.. if this is correct indeed ,it will point to the airport from where the plane took off ,as responsible too for
the false flag incident. and possibly flew by control remote.. perhaps from US Navy warships near Ukraine or from another plane flying close. In any case for me there is no doubt it was a planed staged false flag incident ..from the very start.. and the details really don't matter for me. It was a false flag aimed to frame Russia and the Rebels for the downing of the plane.