kvs wrote:I hope this design gets implemented. Time to move on in terms of aircraft design. A lifting body concept is superior to
anything currently available.
Check out the butthurt response by western "journalists":
The only thing absurd are the two retarded clowns who wrote this troll piece and the clowns that hired them.
Ooh well since it's been a while.
Russia's proposed new military transport will be a behemoth of an aircraft — assuming such a plane can even fly and Russia is even vaguely serious about actually building it.
I wonder what these two nitwits would say about the B2 or the B-49 before that.
According to the Kremlin propaganda outfit RT, citing design specifications from Russia's Military-Industrial Commission, the new PAK TA transport will have the improbable ability to achieve supersonic flight while carrying massive payloads. The Kremlin plans to acquire 80 PAK TAs by 2024.
"Propaganda outfit" really, considering the so-called journalism the "NON-propaganda" outfits of the west demonstrated and continue to demonstrate from 2001 through 2003 and even now and in this very article, i think i'll stick with the "Propaganda outfit".
Supersonic flight is still up in the air,..... for now.
But until prototypes of the plane are built and begin flying, there is no telling how well the plane will actually perform or if it is even practical.
Considering the current situation with Russia's lack of future super-heavy lift aircraft (which these two idiots clearly aren't even aware of), it would be very practical for Russia to invest in this project and as for performance, it looks like it's gonna be very impressive.
Russia's fifth-generation fighter, the T-50, has run into design problems. According to the Indian Air Force, the joint Indian-Russian variant of the T-50 still has numerous stealth and engine problems even at a late stage in its development.
Ok, first of, i wasn't even aware the (2 seater) FGFA was already in flight testing?
Second, the article they're quoting links to an old Business Insider or BI article that links to a Business Standard or BS
There complaints are:
1) Russia's reluctance to share critical design information with India.
The article doesn't really clarify what design info they're bitching about, just some gibberish about radar coverage.
2)The fighter's current AL-41F1 (117) engines are inadequate, being mere upgrades of the Sukhoi-30MKI's AL-31 engines.
For some reason, an upgrade of one of the more reliable and proven engines in Russia is suddenly "inadequate" cuzz it's a "mere upgrade" (to say nothing of the AL-31 being from the SU-27 not MKI) again these guys need to specify WTF they're bitching about.
3) It is too expensive.
What do they expect for 5th gen FFS, anyway now that the Rafale is out they'll have plenty of cash.
4) its stealth features badly engineered.
In what way the stealth is badly engineered is not mentioned anywhere in the article, sound like BS ironically from BS.
5)India's share to low.
In what way??
And the PAK TA presents an even greater challenge. A supersonic plane of its size and cargo capacity — an anticipated 200 tons — could land only on a very long, reinforced runway that may need to be designed specifically for the plane. It would necessitate an astonishingly large fuel load, which would further limit the number of airports from which the aircraft could take off and land. It would also have an enormous wingspan that would make the plane an easy target for enemy forces.
The article brings up some interesting question, how many runways in Russia are capable of handling this bird, the fuel load thing is obvious BS considering it only has one Turbine engine.
On a more basic level, who would entrust 200 tons of cargo aboard such an outlandish, experimental aircraft?
Answer: Everyone, when it's no longer an experimental/prototype aircraft
It would be an astonishing accomplishment if a prototype ever takes the skies — never mind 80 finished planes.
For now, the aircraft is at most an aspiration for Russia. It may also just be a propaganda ploy meant to highlight the Kremlin's modernization drive and create the impression that Russia's military-industrial complex possesses technological capabilities beyond its actual capacity.
Even if the PAK TA may be crude Kremlin psy-ops, the concept art for the new aircraft is still pretty spectacular. Here's what Moscow is claiming about its fanciful superplane of the distant and probably nonexistent future.
"Propaganda ploy" unlikely, considering the PAK-DA is indeed in development and Russia isn't like the U.S who continuously create the impression that there "military-industrial complex possesses technological capabilities beyond its actual capacity
Ok, now they're just envious.
The PAK-TA is being developed by the Russian aviation company Ilyushin.
Ilyushin, that's great, Tupolev got the PAK-DA if Ilyushin gets the PAK-TA it would be great.
The PAK TA's payload capacity is envisioned as being 80 tons more than that of the US' largest cargo plane, the C-5 Galaxy
Hmmm... sources vary, but seems legit around 135 tons for vanilla C-5 close enough and 142 tons for C-5M.
RT estimates that a fleet of PAK TA's could carry 400 T-14 Armata heavy tanks. Left unaddressed is why anyone would risk loading 400 tanks into a fleet this ridiculous.
It's not ridiculous, it's necessary when you're dealing with psychopaths like NATO.
The plane is thought to feature an upper gas turbine as well as twin electrically powered fans. The back of the plane's wings will generate vectored thrust — assuming a single one is ever built.
Truly envious aren't they.
Difference Between Jealousy and Envy wrote:The main difference between envy and jealousy is that envy is the emotion of coveting what someone else has, while jealousy is the emotion related to fear that something you have will be taken away by someone else.