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    Post  GarryB Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:19 am

    The US is normally very generous with military financial aide simply because they can write it off as charity to said country when in fact the funds are locked in to only being allowed to be used on US military products, so rather than military aide to Poland, it is actually military funding to the US MIC and military forces where they can get rid of old stock or sell specific equipment to "allies" in a sort of forward location of American kit, where if something really kicks off they are basically forward deployed US equipped cannon fodder to distract the enemy for a bit...
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    Post  George1 Sat Feb 19, 2022 12:44 pm

    Notice of the planned sale of 250 American M1A2 SEP v.3 Abrams tanks to Poland

    February 18th, 3:28 pm
    On February 17, 2022, the US Department of Defense Agency for Military Cooperation (DSCA) sent a notification to the US Congress about the planned upcoming sale to Poland through the American Foreign Military Sales (FMS) program of 250 M1A2 SEP v.3 main tanks Abrams. This shipment is approved by the US Department of State. The total cost of the proposed delivery will be $6 billion, including additional equipment and supplies, ammunition, as well as training and technical support packages.


    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4487484.html
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    Post  lancelot Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:46 pm

    More recycled Amerikanski trash. Uncle Sham sells his refurbished 1980 era tanks to fund next generation tank development.
    Poland also seems to be trying to beat India into getting the most dysfunctional tank park in the world.

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:58 am

    lancelot wrote:More recycled Amerikanski trash. Uncle Sham sells his refurbished 1980 era tanks to fund next generation tank development.
    Poland also seems to be trying to beat India into getting the most dysfunctional tank park in the world.

    Silence, you disbeliever!
    We already did!
    Our brave tank eagles operate 6 different tank types at the moment, hardly compatible Laughing
    This one would make 7th.
    Indians can be considered as the humble ones there Laughing

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    Post  lancelot Sun Feb 20, 2022 11:16 am

    You should have just done like the Turks and license production of the K2 Black Panther tank from South Korea.
    When you are getting 500 tanks (between the M1 and the Leopard 2) it is pretty dumb not to use this opportunity to beef up the local industry.
    That is about the same amount of tanks as the total number of T-90 tanks active in the Russian Federation.
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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:46 pm

    You are trying to apply common sense to something that is a political bribe in the first place.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Feb 20, 2022 3:51 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    lancelot wrote:More recycled Amerikanski trash. Uncle Sham sells his refurbished 1980 era tanks to fund next generation tank development.
    Poland also seems to be trying to beat India into getting the most dysfunctional tank park in the world.

    Silence, you disbeliever!
    We already did!
    Our brave tank eagles operate 6 different tank types at the moment, hardly compatible Laughing
    This one would make 7th.
    Indians can be considered as the humble ones there Laughing

    7 types? Jesus...

    Which ones?


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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:01 pm

    A vanilla T-72A of Polish origin, to begin with. We call them M and M1 versions.
    Those are still in line.
    Later, we took some 230+ PT-91 tanks, made locally again.
    Next was Leopard 2A4.
    Followed by Leopard 2A5.
    We have started to reconstruct our vanilla T-72Ms into T-72M1 mod. 2019.
    And last but not least, all our Leo2A4 are supposed to be upgraded to Leo2PL standard.
    Catching up with versions ? Laughing
    All of them have hardly anything in common.
    But now we are going to introduce a M1.
    A tank zoo is humble opinion Laughing

    Our mighty superpower operates more tanks, than Germany, France and UK combined.
    Moscow is ours already, they only didn't notice that!
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    Post  Hole Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:04 pm

    At least in the summer. Leos don´t like cold weather and the M1 works best indoor. Laughing

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:29 pm

    Summer is comming!
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:41 pm

    ALAMO wrote:A vanilla T-72A of Polish origin, to begin with. We call them M and M1 versions.
    Those are still in line.
    Later, we took some 230+ PT-91 tanks, made locally again.
    Next was Leopard 2A4.
    Followed by Leopard 2A5.
    We have started to reconstruct our vanilla T-72Ms into T-72M1 mod. 2019.
    And last but not least, all our Leo2A4 are supposed to be upgraded to Leo2PL standard.
    Catching up with versions ? Laughing
    All of them have hardly anything in common.
    But now we are going to introduce a M1.
    A tank zoo is humble opinion Laughing

    Our mighty superpower operates more tanks, than Germany, France and UK combined.
    Moscow is ours already, they only didn't notice that!

    Holy crap!

    That's not a zoo, that's a full sized jungle

    Could it be that India bribed Polish government in order to make Arjun Tank look good less shitty?




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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:21 pm

    It is a bribe.
    Nothing more, nothing less.
    When the rusty hair monkey was in charge there, they had no problem with calling that loud&open.
    Now they still take all the bribes the vassals can handle but in quiet.
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    Post  George1 Thu Apr 07, 2022 12:20 am

    Poland signed an agreement on the purchase of 250 American M1A2 SEP v.3 Abrams tanks

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4509348.html
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    Post  lyle6 Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:49 am

    George1 wrote:Poland signed an agreement on the purchase of 250 American M1A2 SEP v.3 Abrams tanks

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4509348.html

    Ukraine's 2k tanks barely lasted for a month. The 250 Abraps would be but a speed bump.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Apr 10, 2022 5:32 am

    Well unless they keep them locked away their fuel bill is going to skyrocket....
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    Post  lyle6 Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:23 am

    GarryB wrote:Well unless they keep them locked away their fuel bill is going to skyrocket....
    Which is funny because tank crews only get real good at their jobs if they are given plenty of fuel to train with. Simulators won't cut it.

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