magnumcromagnon wrote:flamming_python wrote:This is just too much I can't stop laughing long enough to breathe
http://coub.com/view/2dyhi
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Edited: http://aloban75.livejournal.com/760639.html
magnumcromagnon wrote:flamming_python wrote:This is just too much I can't stop laughing long enough to breathe
http://coub.com/view/2dyhi
Link doesn't work.
Regular wrote:Ukrainian troops blocked in airport really deserve respect.
GarryB wrote:Have had a tidy up.
Posts removed have gone here:
https://www.russiadefence.net/t3259-russia-vs-us-military-and-economy-and-this-forum-isn-t-fair
You can argue to your hearts content that the US could defeat a Russian intervention into the Ukraine with 1,000 tomahawks and 200 B-2s and that it all doesn't matter because this year Russian economic growth is 1% or less to the sky is falling anyway. :rolleyes: :yawn:
zg18 wrote:Regular wrote:Ukrainian troops blocked in airport really deserve respect.
That`s the point , they are blocked. Ukrainians made a tactical mistake by putting professional army forces (which are quite thin) to protect Donetsk and Lugansk airports , now at least those in Lugansk , want to get out but can`t and take severe beating. Airports are difficult to defend , easy to attack.
mack8 wrote:Now apart from "government" troops being blocked in the airport, any sort of summary of what happened in Donetsk and Lugansk in the last few days after the occupation of Slaviansk? Did artillery bombardaments continued daily? What is the rebels' situation?
07/11/14. "In the coming days, the basic operation is the destruction of the surrounded detachments (two airports and the southern border.) Total number in the cauldrons is from 3 to 4 thousand enemy soldiers. destruction of these groups (and the chances are now greater than ever) will try to conclude as quickly as possible. A week later (after the rearrangement of the enemy) chances will be much less. Because there are some "rush." What is encouraging - in every significant point of our present artillery fist. He in fact is the main "argument" in the unfolding battle. Accordingly, for any price junta should promptly relieve their surrounded by troops. If they will not succeed, then in addition to the great human loss (comparable to losses for the entire period of fights) troops junta risk leaving in the hands of militias big "trophies" of armored vehicles. that can fundamentally change the situation on the fronts, and is what we hope. "
https://vk.com/strelkov_info?w=wall-57424472_6073
TheArmenian wrote:The anti-Kiev forces are rapidly growing in strength. New weapons have recently appeared in their hands in ever increasing quantities. If they can get a large number of volunteers to quickly join their ranks, they should be able to hold off the expected Ukrainian assault on Donetsk and Lugansk. After a few weeks of failed UKrainian attempts, Poroshenko will have to come to the table and the conflict will most likely turn into a frozen one like Transdniestria and Karabagh. That is a possible outcome of this tragic situation.
Anyways,
I made a list of the heavy weapons and vehicles in possession of the rebels. I gathered the information from photos and video clips posted in various places.
- There are at least 4 NONA self-propelled mortar artillery: 2 with Strelkov's Slavyansk forces that were brought to Donetsk and 2 more with the Vostok battalion in Donetsk. Strelkov's ones have the "To Kiev" words stenciled on them, the Vostok ones don't have that.
- T-64 tanks (unknown numbers) in various units both in Donetsk and Lugansk
- 1 T54 tank and possibly a few WWII era tanks are being refurbished for action
- BMP2 vehicles in unknown numbers in all units
- Various BTR 60/70/80 vehicles in many units
- Strelkov has one or 2 surviving BMD2, I have seen a few more with other units in Donetsk
- 1 BM-21 Grad launcher was seen in a video clip in Lugansk
- 1 D-30 howitzer was captured from the Ukrainian army
- A number of Sani 120mm mortars
- 1 Strela-10 (Sa-13) mobile SAM launcher in Donetsk
- Various KAMAZ and Ural Trucks, some have been armoured
- Many UAZ and other Jeeps and pickups.
- Newly seen in Donetsk was a UAZ Patriot 4x4 pickup truck
Other weapons include:
- SPG-9 recoilless guns
- Fagot, Konkurs and Metis ATGMs
- PTRS 14.5mm anti tank rifle from WWII
- AGS-17 grenade launchers
- RPG-7/18/22/26
- Utes .50 caliber machine guns
- IGLA MANPADS
TheArmenian wrote:The anti-Kiev forces are rapidly growing in strength. New weapons have recently appeared in their hands in ever increasing quantities. If they can get a large number of volunteers to quickly join their ranks, they should be able to hold off the expected Ukrainian assault on Donetsk and Lugansk. After a few weeks of failed UKrainian attempts, Poroshenko will have to come to the table and the conflict will most likely turn into a frozen one like Transdniestria and Karabagh. That is a possible outcome of this tragic situation.
Anyways,
I made a list of the heavy weapons and vehicles in possession of the rebels. I gathered the information from photos and video clips posted in various places.
- There are at least 4 NONA self-propelled mortar artillery: 2 with Strelkov's Slavyansk forces that were brought to Donetsk and 2 more with the Vostok battalion in Donetsk. Strelkov's ones have the "To Kiev" words stenciled on them, the Vostok ones don't have that.
- T-64 tanks (unknown numbers) in various units both in Donetsk and Lugansk
- 1 T54 tank and possibly a few WWII era tanks are being refurbished for action
- BMP2 vehicles in unknown numbers in all units
- Various BTR 60/70/80 vehicles in many units
- Strelkov has one or 2 surviving BMD2, I have seen a few more with other units in Donetsk
- 1 BM-21 Grad launcher was seen in a video clip in Lugansk
- 1 D-30 howitzer was captured from the Ukrainian army
- A number of Sani 120mm mortars
- 1 Strela-10 (Sa-13) mobile SAM launcher in Donetsk
- Various KAMAZ and Ural Trucks, some have been armoured
- Many UAZ and other Jeeps and pickups.
- Newly seen in Donetsk was a UAZ Patriot 4x4 pickup truck
Other weapons include:
- SPG-9 recoilless guns
- Fagot, Konkurs and Metis ATGMs
- PTRS 14.5mm anti tank rifle from WWII
- AGS-17 grenade launchers
- RPG-7/18/22/26
- Utes .50 caliber machine guns
- IGLA MANPADS
TR1 wrote:https://i.imgur.com/zEU2m8u.jpg
Holy shit! Those massive casualties are believable!
Werewolf wrote:TR1 wrote:https://i.imgur.com/zEU2m8u.jpg
Holy shit! Those massive casualties are believable!
Ukrainian Army?
Strizh wrote:I've seen photos from destroyed tanks how is this even possible from a Grad volley?
xeno wrote:Oh, shit like a hell.
Even T-72? How can Grad destroy T-72s like this?
Yes it should be an extremely lucky to have direct hit, as we know a 122mm explosive cannot dismantle a T-72B without a direct hit...Werewolf wrote:xeno wrote:Oh, shit like a hell.
Even T-72? How can Grad destroy T-72s like this?
Direct hit, no other explenation.
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