Yes , that is what I mean . I am not too happy about non-stealthy planes confronting stealthy planes , with Radar switched on AND ECM pods advertising location too .
Radar would only be used when needed, and jamming pods would only be used when under attack... for example being illuminated by the seeker head of an AMRAAM ARH missile... and if that is happening the enemy aircraft already knows where you are anyway.
With proper coordination with ground forces and aircraft you can have some platforms scanning for threats but equally quite a few other aircraft and ground forces operating radar in listening mode only, so not emitting any signal but listening for signals. The enemy... if it is using active radar will give away its own positions, but its stealthy aircraft will only be using their radar as little as possible to avoid giving away their position.
This should give Iran as the home team a better situational awareness and the ability to look for threats and move radar and radio silent platforms closer to where they think the enemy stealthy aircraft and drones are located... when you get close enough the IRST and IR guided weapons can deal with the problem...
The F35 attack will form part of their tactics . After they use cruise missile from B2 or B52 or Sub or Ship at sea . These have 3700 km range and are fitted with conventional warhead . Against B2 , very difficult to intercept by Air at 3700 km from border for Iran .
Such standoff ranges makes engaging the launch platforms difficult, so instead of engaging the launch platforms, designate targets in the region that you will attack instead... US military bases HQs, Comms centres, US Airfields, etc etc.
When they attack you, you attack them back.
Ship and Sub launched cruise can be dealt with effectively by Iranian Subs at sea . How many cruise missiles can they fire ? How many AD missiles , will Iran need to intercept ? How many cruise will get through ? I have to assume that , they will in the medium or long term , win the war of numbers . And once SEAD operation is made an impact, then they will come in with F35 and then F18.........
Low flying subsonic missiles are relatively easy to intercept... the real problem is detecting them on their way... Saudi Arabia didn't detect any till impact which is obviously too late.
One advantage of forcing the US to launch attacks from extreme range is that you therefore get plenty of time to deal with them, and the solution again is a coordination of aircraft and ground base air defences.
If they launch 300 missiles then of course you would struggle to deal with them all as they arrive on target, but using aircraft, you can engage them from where they are detected all the way to their targets... even an old model MiG-29 should be able to get 6 good kills with AAMs... the SARH R-27 could be used to deal with targets further away and after those two are launched the four remaining R-73s are just ideal for shooting down cruise missiles too... the gun system on the MiG-29 is very good too... approach from behind... get a lock on the cruise missile and pull the trigger for the cannon... the fire control system will use the IRST and laser range finder to get a precise location for the target (the IRST gives very precise angular information for the target but not range, but the laser gives very precise range information)... together they give a very precise location for the target in real time and when the fire control system on the plane detects the angles are just right it will allow the gun to fire a burst.
The point is that even after the missiles are fired and the cannon is out of shells the plane can continue to fly around locating cruise missiles and passing target data to the ground air defence forces so they can attack them too.
I believe Iran has Kornets and Igla-S both in licence production... the latter would be absolutely ideal for engaging cruise missiles as long as sufficient warning is given to the operator.
The MiG could follow the cruise missiles till other aircraft arrive and start launching missiles to whittle down their numbers while they can return to base to rearm for another wave of missiles...
The key is work together so no targets are hit and then respond to the attack with a ballistic missile or cruise missile attack of your own... where would their aircraft attack be based from... attack that airfield in response to their first attack...
Agree . Once the war gets to a stage , where they have air superiority and are bombing at will , then as we talked before , symbolic attacks by ICBM against monuments can be done . Or detonation of strong flares at altitude . Or EMP . Or plastic mini-leaflet that will survive the trip and fall to Earth .This should not provoke a Nuclear response . But if it does , so be it !
No way. Attack them back with ballistic and cruise missiles to prevent them gaining air superiority.... hit their air bases, their arms dumps and fuel supplies... the power stations near their bases.
If they threaten nukes then say... that makes all US forces fair game and also Israel fair game... do they still want to play?
And what is the cost of an Iran defeated and destroyed by USA or a Nuclear attack on Iran by USA , for Russia and the world ? A not too unrealistic prospect ?
Iran has more justification to spend money on defence... because unlike US and EU and HATO budgets... it actually is on DEFENCE.... but equally we don't want Iran to spend away its wealth and future on weapons it does not need... that would be another way the west could defeat Iran is to get it to overspend on its military and ignore its economy and people.... a bit like North Korea...
Here the Israel minister still thinks a war with Iran is winnable !
And that is a problem and is very destabilising... maybe if the US and HATO does not want to give Russia security guarantees then Russia needs to give Iran security guarantees... perhaps set aside a dozen TOPOL missiles and sign a deal with Iran that if any country attacks them that they can give the go ahead and Russia will attack the country that attacked them... Russia can use its discretion to decide what form the return attack would take, but it will be up to and including TOPOL if needed.
I am sure the US would say that isn't fair, but that is the agreement the US has with HATO countries... if they get attacked then the US is obliged to help... Russia making similar agreements with Iran is none of the wests business... isn't that how this works?
Irans security is none of the wests business and Iran has every right to enter into security agreements and pacts with Russia if they want... I mean if Russia can stop Ukraine and Georgia joining HATO then what say should the west have in agreements Russia signs?
Yes I can imagine ! They have a Death star in orbit !
It is a diamond studded leash attached to Bidens diamond and emerald studded codpiece isn't it?
I just don’t see Russia taking it on. I’d put a tenner on it.
I am not a betting man... not because I don't believe I am right, but because I don't want to compound being wrong with owing someone money too.
Might be losing patience but that doesn’t mean he’s willing to take on the agro of supplying such systems to Iran - I just don’t see Russia taking it on. I’d put a tenner on it.
Russia most likely blames Iran as much as it does isreal, who is just boxing clever - it is a war after all.
It would be a great way of linking their own demands with the current situation.
At the moment the US and EU and HATO countries and non HATO countries are saying who they do or don't let into HATO is none of Russias business... a simple counter would be for Russia to say OK... if we can't say yes or no to Ukraine or Georgia entering HATO then you don't get any say in our defence agreements with other countries too as I mentioned above they could have a bilateral agreement with Iran, but they could expand it to the SCO group... Venezuela would love to join and I expect Cambodia and Cuba and North Korea would all love to get security guarantees from Russia... Russia could start investments and increase its presence in these regions to boost trade and really help these regions out... Russia has gone from broken to built back better and I am sure there is lots of advice and assistance they could give.... investments where the country they are working with gets help, but it is not just charity draining Russian resources... where both sides make money and create wealth and value and progress and develop.
Re France I know that was just tongue in cheek, there’s more chance of me flying one of those jets straight from Moscow to Tehran without crashing!
Fly over the Caspian Sea... shouldn't be a huge problem...
Putin needs a response for when the west brushes him off... even if he does not use it... it would be a useful option...
The west knows Russia is not going to attack Kiev out of the blue... it will stop Kievs forces if they try a violent solution to their current problems but they wont invade for any other reason because they don't want the Ukraine, that is just a myth.
That is why they can make all sorts of threats they know they will never have to follow through on like kicking Russia out of SWIFT.
Putin should do the same... basing Russian air defence regiments of S-400 and S-500 near the nuclear reactor in Iran for instance, or gifting them some Su-24s with upgrades and perhaps some MiG-29s from storage for the price of minor upgrades on them and perhaps a future licence production contract for MiG-29Ms... to be paid for in oil ventures... Hell, no... they should be doing that anyway... Licence production of Pantsir SAMs.... IADS equipment.
Perhaps if the JPOA agreement is not resumed in its original form without preconditions Russia might sign a new agreement with Iran... they can be the first foreign producers and operators of Checkmates...