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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:57 pm

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:26 pm

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    Post  Regular on Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:06 am

    The small ones are very common sight in any CT operation these days.. used to pinpoint the suspects, check for hostages and guide the fire of officers. Very good to see that it's so much safer for the guys out there.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:40 pm

    Vikhr UGV



    What's interesting is they've taken a liking to the turret designed by the Crimean company (acquired in 2014 Wink ) with the triangular shaped 3 piece Kornet-M launchers. Apparently there's more versions of that launcher than I thought, just look at the 7:03 mark.

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:40 am

    That 57mm gun turret in the top vid looks like the system they have decided to use for their naval vessels.... with a different stealthy shell of course but the same optics by the looks of it...

    http://roe.ru/eng/catalog/naval-systems/shipborne-weapons/au-220-m/

    BTW I thought that triangular shape was a little strange but in that second video it showed the ability to elevate as high as the gun, which is useful for Kornet that can be used against flying targets.

    The other turret armament shown was interesting and seemed to include S-5 rockets (ie 57mm aircraft rockets), Igla missiles in the side launchers and 12.7mm Kord HMGs and 2A14 23mm single barrel cannon in single and double mounts as well as a 6 barrel gatling 30mm gun.

    I am surprised they didn't show 30mm or 40mm or 57mm grenade launcher mounts of twin barrel 23mm or 30mm guns or indeed 23mm six barrel guns...
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:08 pm

    So Ru MOD's investments in developing AI neural networks have paid off. Marker UGV can be voice commanded in to carrying out orders, without the need a human drone operator.

    Voice control: Russia is ahead of the Americans in the creation of combat robots
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    The robotic platform "Marker" has successfully passed the first stage of the state testing program. The second will begin in August, and the Ministry of Defense will receive the robot in a year. This was reported yesterday at the FPI.


    It is worth noting that for the first time, the Pentagon made an attempt to create an autonomous combat platform designed to support infantry units. One of the most famous American robots is the "walking" BigDog from Boston Dynamics.

    According to the studies carried out, in terms of cross-country ability, such a drive is significantly superior to a tracked or wheel drive. However, BigDog turned out to be much more difficult to manage than classic platforms.

    In particular, the American robot was never trained to clearly execute voice commands, as indicated by the failed tests of 2017. Consequently, effective vehicle control is available only from the remote control, which requires the involvement of one soldier in the process, thereby reducing the value of such support.

    Over the past three years, Boston Dynamics has significantly improved its robots, even creating a civilian version of "dogs". However, the Americans failed to teach the machine to recognize voice commands.

    Based on the foregoing, of particular interest is the statement of the head of the FPI, which mentions the verification of the possibility of effective control of the Russian "Marker" by voice. The tests will be carried out as part of the second stage of state tests. If our engineers succeed in realizing what was too tough for the Americans, then the Russian robot will become the first autonomous combat platform that can be controlled like a living soldier.

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    Post  PhSt on Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:16 pm

    So Ru MOD's investments in developing AI neural networks have paid off. Marker UGV can be voice commanded in to carrying out orders, without the need a human drone operator.

    Yes, now that Russia is leading in this field of AI technology, NATO has no other choice but to order its propaganda apparatus to make a hit piece in a pathetic attempt to downplay Russia's achievements Laughing

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    https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a33300551/russia-voice-controlled-military-robots/

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:33 am

    They appear to be worried about civilian casualties.... for a change...

    But surely if you listen to the western narrative those those evil Russians bomb churches and schools and hospitals on a regular basis in Syria... why would they care about voice command robots hurting the wrong people?
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:27 am

    PhSt wrote:
    So Ru MOD's investments in developing AI neural networks have paid off. Marker UGV can be voice commanded in to carrying out orders, without the need a human drone operator.

    Yes, now that Russia is leading in this field of AI technology, NATO has no other choice but to order its propaganda apparatus to make a hit piece in a pathetic attempt to downplay Russia's achievements Laughing

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    https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a33300551/russia-voice-controlled-military-robots/

    Why do you keep posting their shit? I personally don't care, nor should you. There could be a crazy cat lady down the street, it doesn't mean we have listen or entertain her ramblings.
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    Post  kvs on Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:10 pm

    Tesla autopilot cars plow into cops pulled up on the side of the road on routine basis. For some reason there is not
    even an effort to ban this dangerous shit from the roads. But when Russia makes any sort of advance, it is supposedly
    dangerous and non-functional. Get f*cked you rabid hater retards. Russian equipment makers actually bother to
    stress test their equipment. Not like hubris filled windbag yanquis with their profit margin scam garbage.

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    Post  Hole on Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:51 pm

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    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:14 am

    The MOD has been discussing the robotization of practically all major military vehicles — tanks, IFVs and self-propelled gun/artillery systems — due to their increasing digitization...

    Russia Prepares Robot Tank For Fighting Drones
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kelseyatherton/2020/07/23/russia-prepares-robot-tank-for-fighting-drones/#65058a8e5fb5

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    Post  kvs on Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:52 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:The MOD has been discussing the robotization of practically all major military vehicles — tanks, IFVs and self-propelled gun/artillery systems — due to their increasing digitization...

    Russia Prepares Robot Tank For Fighting Drones
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kelseyatherton/2020/07/23/russia-prepares-robot-tank-for-fighting-drones/#65058a8e5fb5

    This effort will serve to develop AI further. The best laboratory is the real world and not some academic bubble.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:05 am

    Interesting. Here's a Federation study on the time and cost of arming/equipping/training a soldier (in Rubles), compared to deploying a UGV. Platform-M was the base UGV compared.
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    The cost's are even greater compared to military's outside of the Federation, especially Western military's.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:13 am

    Why do you keep posting their shit? I personally don't care, nor should you. There could be a crazy cat lady down the street, it doesn't mean we have listen or entertain her ramblings.

    Actually I like it.... to be clear I don't enjoy their dribbling, but if you listen carefully you can find out areas of clear strength for the Russians as perceived by the west, and the problems the west have come across that prevents their equivalent from being in service... usually because of incompetence...

    If Putin has billions tucked away... you know they are pissed off at all those western politicians lining their nests but they can't talk about it, because they work for the rich families paying the bribes that are diverted to next building.

    If Russian AI might lead to widespread massacres of innocent civilians then that means they fear their proxy terrorist forces wont be able to defend themselves properly from these robots...

    Despite US Murderbots killing thousands of people in summary executions that has killed innocent people nearby, and of course their method of selecting victims is more to do with who will cooperate with them and who wont bend to their will...


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    Post  GarryB on Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:22 am

    More interesting a topic... inside a robot you can arrange batteries and electronics and various other systems in a variety of different ways, and in fact with internal armour you could design a vehicle that is invulnerable to small arms fire, because the armour can be close to that which rifle and HMG rounds will penetrate... but having 2-3 layers means you would need extremely concentrated fire to penetrate to damage something of consequence.

    With a tank, you know roughly where the engine is and when the ammo and fuel are and where the crew sit, but eliminate the crew and the fuel could be multiple sets of batteries and the outer armour layers which can be ceramic or layered materials and then internal compartments as further layers and then armour around individual components inside all designed to be complete modules that can be easily replaced if damaged in the field.

    A human shaped robot might have primary eyes and ears in the head... but the brain could be in the chest under better armour, so shooting a human shaped robot in the head might do nothing at all to stop it as an example.

    An enemy position that is well dug in and well defended... robot ground vehicles with rockets and HMGs could be sent to flank the position... airborne robots could attack it from the rear and damage supply or artillery support components for the defence. The new 4-5km range sniper rifles could be located on nearby hills to fire into the enemy complex etc etc not to mention the IFV that delivered your force will also have direct fire guns of 30mm, 57mm, and 100mm calibre plus various missiles, while ground based robots might have rocket pods for 57mm or 80mm or 122mm aircraft launched rockets... which can include smoke and illumination rockets as well as anti personel and armour piercing...
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    Post  Isos on Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:28 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Interesting. Here's a Federation study on the time and cost of arming/equipping/training a soldier (in Rubles), compared to deploying a UGV. Platform-M was the base UGV compared.
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    The cost's are even greater compared to military's outside of the Federation, especially Western military's.
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    I don't really understand the goal of those numbers.

    Replacing military by robots is stupid. They are just a tool, a shitty tool till now.

    No military = invaded.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:03 pm

    Russian BMP-3 equipped with guidance and vision system `Parallax' can be controlled with VR glasses

    Parallax controls the battle. The first "transparent armor" for robotics was created in Russia
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    At the international forum Army-2020, the Signal Research Institute presented a number of robotic vehicles capable of changing the course of hostilities at a tactical level

    The defense-industrial complex (DIC) of a number of countries is developing solutions aimed at maximizing the simplification of the actions of the Ground Forces units in battle. One of the current trends in the development of technology is its robotization, which makes it possible to automate the performance of a combat mission, increase the efficiency and coherence of actions, and also minimize the level of losses.

    It is premature to talk about the dominance of robotics on the modern battlefield, but there are already examples that can have a significant impact on the development of the direction in the future. At the moment, one of the main trends is the creation of specialized samples and the conversion of existing machines. Russia, being one of the most developed developers and manufacturers of robots, is developing both of the above directions.

    The domestic defense industry creates both combat robotics, for example, Uran-9, and multipurpose, in particular, the Uran-6 robotic demining system and the Uran-14 fire robot.

    One of the key issues arising in the creation of high-tech weapons is their cost and, more importantly, the ratio of cost and effectiveness. It is the high cost of development that often limits the ability of various armies to massively deploy robots - at the moment, no army in the world is deploying combat robotics in large quantities. In this context, designing on the basis of existing machines can give impetus to the combat use of robotics.

    The High-Precision Complexes holding (as part of the Rostec State Corporation) is one of the largest Russian developers of robotic systems, while the direct executor of work in this area is the Signal All-Russian Research Institute (JSC VNII Signal) The Institute is a Russian pioneer in the field of designing robots on the basis of existing technology We tell you about the novelties presented by the enterprise  at the forum "Army-2020".

    Parallax on the battlefield
    The "Parallax" surveillance and targeting system operates on the principle of "transparent armor". It is installed on the chassis of the BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicle and turns it into a multifunctional combat robot, made with minimal modifications to the basic chassis model.

    Denis Varabin, deputy general director and project manager of Signal, told TASS that the BMP-3 chassis was chosen to participate in a variety of work to explore the possibilities of robotization. "We have ensured the possibility of the machine functioning in remote and automatic modes, but at the same time the crew control method is preserved," he said.

    According to him, the BMP-3, modernized within the framework of the Parallax program, is now capable of crossing water obstacles and firing afloat. “We robotic the basic functions of the sample. The vehicle can be equipped with different combat modules: the prototype, in particular, has a standard BMP-3 turret. We made it remote-controlled and equipped it with modern combat control technologies,” Varabin said. The combat module with "Parallax" is controlled using virtual reality glasses (virtual reality, VR).

    The operator puts on glasses and operates [the tower] by turning the head. A small-sized joystick is responsible for fire control. Everything is comfortable and receptive for the modern generation - Denis Varabin Deputy General Director - Project Manager VNII "Signal""]

    The BMP-3, upgraded under the Parallax program, became the first Russian combat vehicle in which the principle of "transparent armor" is implemented (the operator, using various sensors, sees an integral and most realistic picture of the battle, but remains behind the armor or in cover). "There are no analogues of this technique in Russia," Varabin emphasized.

    The machine has fully retained its standard capabilities - so, troops can be loaded into it, and if necessary, the operator can turn on the remote or automatic control mode. Outwardly, the robotic BMP-3 is practically indistinguishable from conventional BMPs of this type.

    It has already implemented the function of automated route passage. The operator marks the points of passage on the map, after which the car begins to move along them. According to Varabin, work is currently underway on an autonomous control mode. "In this case, the operator sets the end point, after which the machine itself chooses the route and bends around obstacles, based on the sensor data," he clarifies.

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    The new robotic system is controlled at long distances using a wearable or remote control panel. The operator's workplace is at a distance, while he can see the status of the machine and its condition. The commander can control several vehicles on the battlefield. Also, the mode is standardly implemented when he can intercept control instead of the shooter in case of injury to the latter. “We are trying to reduce the number of machine control devices by optimizing them and bringing them together in one window,” added Varabin.

    Thus, VNII "Signal" followed the path of robotizing an existing sample, rather than creating an absolutely new system. This approach, as noted above, is more economically efficient. Moreover, it allows the robotization of existing equipment during intermediate repairs.

    Varabin stressed that the BMP-3 equipped with Parallax is a prototype - a technology demonstrator, which is used to test various technical solutions.

    Different fighting compartments were installed on this sample - about five to six samples, which were robotized according to the same principle. We can also integrate the fighting squads of other developers. By and large, this is a set of technologies that, depending on specific requirements, can be integrated, as a rule, in a factory repair. - Denis Varabin Deputy General Director - Project Manager VNII "Signal"

    The developers are considering the possibility of further intellectualizing the machine. "In our opinion, it is necessary to form a decision support system. This will reduce the crew of a combat vehicle from three people [commander, driver, operator-gunner] to one [commander]. By issuing instructions to the computer and combat module, BMPs are excluded from the work , respectively, the driver-mechanic and the gunner-operator. Only the commander remains, who serves as a source of decision-making, "Varabin said, adding that in the future, vehicles with Parallax will be able to receive the function of a programmable sequence of targets.

    VNII "Signal" is also working to improve the virtual reality system, with which control is carried out. This will reduce the burden on the operator and increase the time to operate the machine.

    One of the features of the "Parallax" complex is its modular design - the robotization kit includes several systems that do not impair the ergonomics of the machine and provide remote control. "We take this set of robotic equipment and install it on various mobile objects. It includes drives and electromechanics for controlling controls, electrical control systems for reading machine data and remote control, navigation system, power supply system, additional systems for video surveillance and control traffic, as well as a communication system, "- said Varabin.

    "Passage" in a minefield
    During the Army-2015 exhibition, the Signal VNII presented a remote-controlled demining machine called the Pass. It is developed on the basis of the BMR-3MA combat vehicle and is intended for the engineering troops.
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    Mikhail Kobyakin, head of the department for advanced development of the Signal All-Russian Research Institute, told TASS that the complex can neutralize all types of mines and simultaneously save the life of the crew. "The main task is to perform a combat mission while saving the life of the crew, since it is he who is primarily susceptible to a mine explosion. [When using the" Pass "] the operator, being at a distance, retains the technical ability to drive the car, while ensuring his complete safety." , - he said.

    "Passage" is made on the chassis of the T-90 tank. As part of this work, a set of attachments has been created, which requires minimal modifications during installation. Trawls of various types act as the main anti-mine device.

    This machine can be used with all types of trawls, both old and new. It neutralizes all types of mines, including those with contact and proximity fuses, and even anti-aircraft mines. "Pass" is also equipped with an electronic warfare (EW) complex, capable of suppressing the fuses of radio-controlled mines -Mikhail Kobyakin Head of the Department for Advanced Development, VNII "Signal"

    The new machine is controlled over a long distance using an anti-jamming communication channel. "We worked through the impact of separate [electronic warfare] complexes - there is a connection in any case," Kobyakin said. The complex also provides for the possibility of passing the demining machine at pre-programmed points. "The sample is also equipped with an additional software control mode: in case of failure of the control panel and in case of loss of communication, the machine stops, waits for some time, switches to the programmed control mode and goes along the set route without operator participation," he added. "Pass" also fully retained the manual control functions.

    Just like Parallax, Passage has a modular structure: its hardware and software can in the future be integrated into various engineering barrage vehicles (IMR) and armored recovery vehicles (ARVs), which in turn opens up tremendous opportunities for modernization of the entire fleet of engineering troops. "If there is interest, it is allowed to modernize existing engineering machines," added the specialist of the institute.

    As TASS was told by the Signal VNII, the car passed state tests and received the letter O1 (start of serial production). It is assumed that the export-oriented version of the "Pass" will be created by the end of 2020.

    Civil Service Robots
    VNII "Signal" integrates its latest robotic developments into civil engineering. In particular, according to Varabin, a remote-controlled truck based on Ural-Next was developed in conjunction with the Joint Engineering Center of GAZ Group, as well as the technology of movement of trucks in a convoy. "The column is headed by a remotely controlled vehicle, followed by other vehicles automatically without human intervention," he said.

    The company has also developed a robotic tracked fire engine "Pioneer" based on an all-terrain vehicle manufactured by Kurganmashzavod. It is capable of performing fire extinguishing in remote mode, which reduces the risks of exposure to elevated temperatures on the crew. It is noteworthy that it is also equipped with modular robotic equipment that does not impair the ergonomics of the machine and retains the manual control mode. The prototype "Pioneer" is also being demonstrated for the first time at "Army-2020".

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/9242711

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    Post  GarryB on Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:12 am

    I don't really understand the goal of those numbers.

    Replacing military by robots is stupid. They are just a tool, a shitty tool till now.

    No military = invaded.

    I think the point is that robots are weapons that can be stored and used when needed... the autonomous AI controlled models that might be used for simple tasks like defending an airfield perimeter or pipeline or power lines, or in places with enemy snipers move around and use audio and optical sensors to try to locate enemy snipers so the can be dealt with... often with the weapons mounted on the robot.

    The troops you would normally use for such dangerous or mundane roles can be used for things where humans are more useful/effective.

    It is probably just trying to prove that adding robots and replacing humans in some roles wont end up being more expensive than using humans... ie gold plated million dollar man robots that can't climb stairs for urban combat roles for example.

    If I was in a defensive bunker and the enemy was approaching I would think a few robots with belt fed machine guns that we could send out to our own flanks to provide cross fire against any group of enemy infantry that try to rush our position would be a good thing... along with drones and other robots to provide us with information and extra fire power...
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:14 pm

    Experts demonstrated the capabilities of the Soratnik combat robot
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    At the Army-2020 forum, the Kalashnikov concern demonstrates the BAS-01G automated combat system. Experts are confident that he will definitely find his place in the battle formation.

    Equipped with the latest optical-electronic system, this tracked robot can conduct reconnaissance, patrol, and protect important objects. It is also capable of operating as part of reconnaissance and motorized rifle subunits, providing fire support, providing ammunition, fuel and lubricants and evacuating the wounded. BAS-01G is capable of speeds up to 40 kilometers per hour, the power reserve at one refueling is 400 kilometers.

    "Companion" has powerful weapons - machine guns of 12.7 or 7.62 millimeters, grenade launchers of 40 or 30 millimeters - depending on the tasks to be solved. It can be equipped with four anti-tank guided missiles or the same number of "Shmel" jet flamethrowers. Simultaneous installation of guided missiles and flamethrowers is possible

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:58 am

    One way to roboticize older MBT's:
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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:50 am

    Ahh finally after nearly a hundred years the teletanks make a return.

    What is very funny is that the original teletanks were based on older tanks like TT-26 being a modified T-26 and now we can have thousands TT-72As.

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    Post  Hole on Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:17 pm

    First drone was also used in WWI.

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