Egypt: Breaking News

ahmedfire wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Has Egypt thought about trying to bring a local production of T-90 or Armata?  Would be beneficial.

News were about T-90 to replace the old variants of Soviet tanks and numbers of M-60 .

The Egyptian project could be a separate one for future requirements .

500 T-90s to begin a TOT that will end up perhaps with the Armata to replace or secondary the M1A1 Abrams after those American tools flipped a lid over the Egyptian Engineer's production of the specially designed indigenous air filter for the engine and then LATER letting the American squinjeelees know about it through the maintenance records as it's SOP and the Yankees couldn't have flipped a bigger lid because this was done without their precious permission.  They took such offense and probably more so when they saw how effective the Egyptian filters were and how they're clogging percentage with all the known sand and dust in Egypt by almost 90%.  No more engines seizes and stopping because of lack of air to the engine as this newly Egyptian designed filter had the dust and sand roll off it like water on ice.  

So the American control has become unbearable, frankly and Sisi has realized this in plenty measure to where his method of acquiring the Su-35 was brilliant.  Knowing how the F-35 would never be approved to such scum as us Egyptians even though it was the jews who attacked us twice and stole all our Sinai and we NEVER attacked them until 6 years later but that was defensive to gain our land back yet we were treated like the bad guys. Imagine that load of CRAP?!

Come the orange moron who approves the F-35 to Sisi to impress him and then gets shut down by the Jew congress in a heart beat.  So he goes to Putin and orders 30 Su-35S knowing how awesome that jet is.  The Americans counter with the F-15 (and who knows if it was anywhere close to the latest SA version of Saudi or the Qatari version and most likely without any AIM-120 (not even the silly B model with a lousy 80km range) but probably none of those and neither did they offer the AIM-9X.  So what did the Egyptian delegation tell the US one?  No thanks!  We have tested BOTH aircraft including the F-15 which we have requested only 1 squadron of 12 aircraft in the past 15 years and you have denied us them both!  Now under pressure you want to sell us a neutered version worth a pile of dung like every single F-16 we have (4th largest operator of that aircraft in the world without and proper BVR but the old AIM-7 you still have to illuminate the target until point of contact so no fire and forget?! HAhahah, kiss off!  while you sell EVERY OTHER USER except the poor Iraqis you've destroyed their country the same. No BVR in the AIM-120, AIM-9x or any of the GPS guided munitions, only laser which is another illuminate for a long time and put yourself in a vulnerable spot and maybe get shot down??!?!!  Ahaha, these Americans must think we are complete fools.  We put up with a lot but NOT ANYMORE.  And to stick it to your lousy and INSULTING offer of whatever F-15 you wanted to pull out of the Arizona bone yard and try to pass it on as a legitimate POS, not going to happen because the Su-35SE (E for EGYPT and that is RESPECT from the Russians) is a FAR FAR FAR more superior aircraft than ANY F-15 to date and will shoot them down every time between the IRBIS-E radar it posses, aided by the AMAZING leading wing-mounted edge AESA radar which the US has NOTHING close to that PLUS 80km IRST in a 3-tiered level radar level to obliterate whatever POC comes near our borders including those phony baloney Jewish F-35 whom NOBODY has studied to date openly and secretly to defuse 3/4 of their capabilities.

So the US can take their F-15xsfdgdejhdjehehkdecrap and shove it since the minute one of the Israeli ones (which I've watched their recent academy pilots fly those things like little children lol at a Germany exercise) and the second it shows up anywhere near EAF territory with out major 1100 km radar set up in 2 kinds, you will lose an entire squadron with many EAF option between a very diverse and modern SAM system as well as pilots who won't hesitate to fight in Rafales, MiG-35s and now Su-35SEs just like we've been already practicing locking on EAF F-15s like what happened last year in southern Negev.  Time to keep moving to Russian equipment and get in on a large order of the Su-50 before this measly Algerian pain in the ass order of a lousy 14 jets slows down our procurement.  We'll want at least 24 before we understand where the level of the Su-57 is at and if it's truly complete to deliver to the VVS or if it still looks like it needs a bit of finish work like I saw and got half the bears on here poked in their bellies.  Grow up and man up.  This is a topic for adults and not for simpleton kids who cry to mama once they hear something they don't like.

GarryB wrote:The Su-35 is intended to counter HATO F-35s, so it would be the ideal tool for Egypt to hunt F-35s.

The F-15 on the other hand was never intended for hunting F-35s and would likely be rather unsuitable for the job...

It will be interesting to see if the EAF pursues the Su-57 at some point. I'm not sure about the veracity of the Algerian "rumor" is what I call it at this point, unless there was an official release by Russian MOD? But I haven't seen it only that they've asked for something like 14 IIRC?

At any rate, when you look at what Egypt has done with its very aggressive push to modernize practically the entire military forces and especially the EAF, they went out and bought 24 Rafales with intentions to at least purchase the option that came with that deal for 12 more which would make a total of 36. But they went even further and wanted to add up to 40 more (was the latest and highest number I read or saw) and obviously they've been very happy with that aircraft to take considerable pressure off of the F-16 fleet.

Then we saw them quite interested in the MiG-35 as a prominent delegation was seen at the MiG-35 unveiling and opening ceremony a few years ago which was quite unique and fun. We knew before that that they were interested in the new MiGs to replace all the old ones (all of them MiG-21s of some type) and they ended up settling on 46 MiG-29M/M2 or what I like to just call MiG-35 since that's essentially what they are with the Zhuk-ME instead of the Zhuk-AE AESA radar and I believe the only other difference is the target designator is not built-in as part of the cockpit avionics like it's supposed to eventually be in the MiG-35 and instead, the EAF MiGs have to carry the T-220 pod and use that to substitute for the designator and that's about it as far as I know regarding the differences between the official MiG-35 as mentioned on the brochure and the model the EAF bought 46 units of.

Then we've seen the Navy go out and buy close to 50 Kamov Ka-52 Alligators with intentions to purchase another 36 or so Ka-52K Katrans for the navy's mistral LHD/helicopter carrier. Huge deal right there between those two but I believe they've signed a tender for the Katrans and we'll have to wait and see how that develops.

Then we were all happily surprised when we heard they went out and signed a contract for 30 Su-35S'! Essentially the best fighter jet in Russia until the Su-57 gets going of course and that's pretty much a great segwey to the main point which is how much interest is there from the EAF towards the Su-57? So far we haven't heard any reports or mentions, but I think it's safe to say that there probably is tremendous interest and that interest has always been there for quite some time is my guess.

So the EAF has pretty much shifted its position of supply of aircraft which is no small order. Shifting pretty much completely away from the US and any future acquisitions of military fighter jets of any kind and to a limited, European market but mainly a complete Russian line of acquisition as we have seen in the above description of orders. The MiG-29M/M2/35 (which could always increase in numbers as the EAF seems to be VERY happy with that aircraft and we've seen it demonstrated in several ceremonies and even combat action near the Libyan border) and then 30 Su-35S jets and then what? Once the VVS completes its initial order of what, 78 aircraft and (I know they've increased that number recently) then will we see any official order from the EAF? Or even before that so they don't get too far behind other orders?

Very interested to see the level of interest the EAF has in the Su-57 and if we will see any push of any kind to order this aircraft?