Also, it is fug.... they should have just made the standard Gazell next and used as a trailer attachment. With having it merged together, it looks terrible and the color scheme of the cab should have been the same as the trailer part.
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Russian Auto Industry
sepheronx- Posts : 8870
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A camper to be percise. In Russia, besides maybe southern parts and locations near the black sea, is far too cold to live in one of those. Some young couple tried to do that here in Calgary, but froze to death during a winter snap.
Also, it is fug.... they should have just made the standard Gazell next and used as a trailer attachment. With having it merged together, it looks terrible and the color scheme of the cab should have been the same as the trailer part.
Also, it is fug.... they should have just made the standard Gazell next and used as a trailer attachment. With having it merged together, it looks terrible and the color scheme of the cab should have been the same as the trailer part.
KomissarBojanchev- Posts : 1429
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- Post n°127
Re: Russian Auto Industry
Way smaller Italy has FIAT, lamborghini, Lancia, Alfa Romeo, Ferrari, Bugattisepheronx wrote:Too many automotive companies. Far too many, even for a country like Russia.
I think it may be in their best interests to start merging some brands like UAZ and GAZ, while VAZ takes ZIL. Combined revenues will allow them to produce even better automobiles, and combined, could have a better chance of filling various countries with all types of products as there is 1 company involved in agreements rather than hald a dozen.
Japan has: Daihatsu, Suzuki, Honda,Mitsubishi, Isuzu, Nissan, Mazda
Russia has the same or more automotive potential than these countries so half a dozen companies shouldn't be excessive.
sepheronx- Posts : 8870
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And now can you see why the automarket is always in trouble? Way too much over production.
PapaDragon- Posts : 13504
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- Post n°129
Re: Russian Auto Industry
Lada Xray Concept 2 and Lada Vesta Concept
Svyatoslavich- Posts : 399
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- Post n°130
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Well, people can still use it in spring and summer, no?sepheronx wrote:A camper to be percise. In Russia, besides maybe southern parts and locations near the black sea, is far too cold to live in one of those. Some young couple tried to do that here in Calgary, but froze to death during a winter snap.
Prince Darling- Posts : 76
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- Post n°131
Re: Russian Auto Industry
cars look pretty good, front is a bit wild cat like.
would love to see some interior pictures
would love to see some interior pictures
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KomissarBojanchev wrote:If fucking spain which has far less experience, and in a massive crisis can still churn out millions if SEATs then I find it hard to believe neither ZIL, GAZ, UAZ has a penny to spare to create some middle class cars, volga preferably.
SEAT only survived until now because they had the support of a big group like Volkswagen. SEAT is a continuous headache for Volkswagen, who supports the continuous loses of the brand year after year. Slowly the factory that produced always the SEAT cars (located in Catalonia), begins to produce Audi cars. SEAT is becoming a one or two cars (basically Ibiza and Leon) brand (like Mini or Smart).
sepheronx- Posts : 8870
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Svyatoslavich wrote:Well, people can still use it in spring and summer, no?sepheronx wrote:A camper to be percise. In Russia, besides maybe southern parts and locations near the black sea, is far too cold to live in one of those. Some young couple tried to do that here in Calgary, but froze to death during a winter snap.
Like I said, a camper. So yes, during spring/summer/fall kind of thing. For when people want to leave the cities/towns and go enjoy themselves near a lake and have a camp fire and what not. Not a bad idea of course, I just think the execution of it could have been way better (trailer rather than it being actual part of the vehicle).
PapaDragon- Posts : 13504
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sepheronx wrote:Svyatoslavich wrote:Well, people can still use it in spring and summer, no?sepheronx wrote:A camper to be percise. In Russia, besides maybe southern parts and locations near the black sea, is far too cold to live in one of those. Some young couple tried to do that here in Calgary, but froze to death during a winter snap.
Like I said, a camper. So yes, during spring/summer/fall kind of thing. For when people want to leave the cities/towns and go enjoy themselves near a lake and have a camp fire and what not. Not a bad idea of course, I just think the execution of it could have been way better (trailer rather than it being actual part of the vehicle).
Yes, but this approach keeps the cost down. Also, paint job is probably optional. Keep in mind that trailer culture in Russia and Europe is not as huge as in north America.
I really like how the whole thing looks but then again I am a euro trash myself...
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- Post n°135
The new LADA xray looks sick of beauty
The new LADA xray looks sick of beauty..
Is a fantastic new modern design and not only the exteriors but interiors too...
me wants one.. anyone knows where Lada Xray is sold and its price in dollars?
There is also really amazing new cars coming from Russia from the
Sport super luxury market.. The Marusia designer is now working on Wolf
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150728/1025145424.html
but the most amazing sport car in the world will be the Vector raven
that they planning to build..
http://sputniknews.com/science/20150821/1026025280/russia-supercar-lada.html
Finally an interesting report/video of the AutoBaz Lada car maker in Russia..
Did anyone notice the LADA XRay model have an "X" shape in the front of the car..
That was brilliant.. really like it..
Im really convinced Russia can truly become really successful developing at home all the cars
they need for its entire society.. From economical ones to the most expensive.. and not junk
cars.. but very modern ones.. Should be amazing to see Russia completely replace every
technology they buy from the west.. I really think Europe is shooting in their own shoes with the sanctions on Russia.. They lost the Food industry and European Car industry is now in danger
of being over taken by the domestic one ,most of its sales that is. A BMW will continue to be
a state of the art machine.. for long time. Still the thing that Russia fails miserably is in promotion.. they suck in promotion.. They have RT media and Sputnik and do not propertly
take advantage of such powerful mediums of information.. Russia should have full adversing for weeks or more their newest stuff.. that people are never aware of it unless they use google.
Is a fantastic new modern design and not only the exteriors but interiors too...
me wants one.. anyone knows where Lada Xray is sold and its price in dollars?
There is also really amazing new cars coming from Russia from the
Sport super luxury market.. The Marusia designer is now working on Wolf
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150728/1025145424.html
but the most amazing sport car in the world will be the Vector raven
that they planning to build..
http://sputniknews.com/science/20150821/1026025280/russia-supercar-lada.html
Finally an interesting report/video of the AutoBaz Lada car maker in Russia..
Did anyone notice the LADA XRay model have an "X" shape in the front of the car..
That was brilliant.. really like it..
Im really convinced Russia can truly become really successful developing at home all the cars
they need for its entire society.. From economical ones to the most expensive.. and not junk
cars.. but very modern ones.. Should be amazing to see Russia completely replace every
technology they buy from the west.. I really think Europe is shooting in their own shoes with the sanctions on Russia.. They lost the Food industry and European Car industry is now in danger
of being over taken by the domestic one ,most of its sales that is. A BMW will continue to be
a state of the art machine.. for long time. Still the thing that Russia fails miserably is in promotion.. they suck in promotion.. They have RT media and Sputnik and do not propertly
take advantage of such powerful mediums of information.. Russia should have full adversing for weeks or more their newest stuff.. that people are never aware of it unless they use google.
PapaDragon- Posts : 13504
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''AvtoVAZ began production of the sports car of the Russian Lada Kalina NFR''
http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/
207 km/h , 0-100 in 8.9s for 10000$. Illegal street racing for everyone!!!
sepheronx- Posts : 8870
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I wonder what import laws are here. If it aint all bad for importing, I will purchase one.
Lada Kalinas and Grantas are of much better quality than before. Actually, they are probably avtovaz's best quality ones.
Edit: i must be pissing people off that I am losing rep like mad.
Lada Kalinas and Grantas are of much better quality than before. Actually, they are probably avtovaz's best quality ones.
Edit: i must be pissing people off that I am losing rep like mad.
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sepheronx wrote:I wonder what import laws are here. If it aint all bad for importing, I will purchase one.
Lada Kalinas and Grantas are of much better quality than before. Actually, they are probably avtovaz's best quality ones.
Edit: i must be pissing people off that I am losing rep like mad.
I think we have a fresh crop of hater trolls who don't post much but downvote any sane member.
PapaDragon- Posts : 13504
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sepheronx wrote:I wonder what import laws are here. If it aint all bad for importing, I will purchase one.
Lada Kalinas and Grantas are of much better quality than before. Actually, they are probably avtovaz's best quality ones.
Edit: i must be pissing people off that I am losing rep like mad.
Had days like that myself...
I have upvoted you to right the injustice.
sepheronx- Posts : 8870
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You guys are so sweet
But yes, KVS, do you happen to know our import laws for automobiles?
But yes, KVS, do you happen to know our import laws for automobiles?
kvs- Posts : 15915
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sepheronx wrote:You guys are so sweet
But yes, KVS, do you happen to know our import laws for automobiles?
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5048-eng.html
Looks like you are out of luck for new vehicles not manufactured in the USA. Of course, this regulation
is total BS and designed to secure the market (aka racket) from unwanted competition. At one stage
the USSR was exporting Ladas to Canada, so Avtovaz possibly could export again, but it likely has to face all sorts
of hurdles that don't make it worthwhile.
Vann7- Posts : 5385
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LADA Xray model..
looks awesome.. and is 4 x 4...
Anyone knows the price in dollar the car will be sold to the west?
Will love to have one.. in that save color.. looks dam good..and futuristic.
looks awesome.. and is 4 x 4...
Anyone knows the price in dollar the car will be sold to the west?
Will love to have one.. in that save color.. looks dam good..and futuristic.
Neutrality- Posts : 888
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Perhaps the biggest news of this year:
http://top.rbc.ru/business/03/09/2015/55e792339a794758617cbaa2
Ford will start building car engines (3 different variants of 1.6 liter) in Russia:
-First car company to start produce car engines domestically
-Investment of 275 million dollars
-95% automated
-Creation of 200 jobs
-Expected to produce 105,000 engines annually
And perhaps the best news of all is that the components for the engines will be 100% Russian. Yes, that means all the engine's details.
http://top.rbc.ru/business/03/09/2015/55e792339a794758617cbaa2
Ford will start building car engines (3 different variants of 1.6 liter) in Russia:
-First car company to start produce car engines domestically
-Investment of 275 million dollars
-95% automated
-Creation of 200 jobs
-Expected to produce 105,000 engines annually
And perhaps the best news of all is that the components for the engines will be 100% Russian. Yes, that means all the engine's details.
higurashihougi- Posts : 3440
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Neutrality wrote:Perhaps the biggest news of this year:
http://top.rbc.ru/business/03/09/2015/55e792339a794758617cbaa2
Ford will start building car engines (3 different variants of 1.6 liter) in Russia:
-First car company to start produce car engines domestically
-Investment of 275 million dollars
-95% automated
-Creation of 200 jobs
-Expected to produce 105,000 engines annually
And perhaps the best news of all is that the components for the engines will be 100% Russian. Yes, that means all the engine's details.
Basically that means, in essential, another U.S. company place an order for engines to Russian manufacturers.
Another meaning is that, well, sanction my **s.
BTW, same news, in English.
http://sputniknews.com/business/20150903/1026529756.html
Neutrality- Posts : 888
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higurashihougi wrote:Neutrality wrote:Perhaps the biggest news of this year:
http://top.rbc.ru/business/03/09/2015/55e792339a794758617cbaa2
Ford will start building car engines (3 different variants of 1.6 liter) in Russia:
-First car company to start produce car engines domestically
-Investment of 275 million dollars
-95% automated
-Creation of 200 jobs
-Expected to produce 105,000 engines annually
And perhaps the best news of all is that the components for the engines will be 100% Russian. Yes, that means all the engine's details.
Basically that means, in essential, another U.S. company place an order for engines to Russian manufacturers.
Another meaning is that, well, sanction my **s.
BTW, same news, in English.
http://sputniknews.com/business/20150903/1026529756.html
On the same subject: http://autodni.ru/news/284159/
Volkswagen will also start producing car engines in Russia. No idea about the level of localization though.
sepheronx- Posts : 8870
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They are going to try to achieve higher localization due to costs reasons.
Also, the ford plant making the engines wont be first of a foreign brand making engines in Russia. Nissan's H4 engine (I believe it is) is made in Russia for Avtovaz vehicles.
Also, the ford plant making the engines wont be first of a foreign brand making engines in Russia. Nissan's H4 engine (I believe it is) is made in Russia for Avtovaz vehicles.
higurashihougi- Posts : 3440
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sepheronx wrote:They are going to try to achieve higher localization due to costs reasons.
Also, the ford plant making the engines wont be first of a foreign brand making engines in Russia. Nissan's H4 engine (I believe it is) is made in Russia for Avtovaz vehicles.
You mean this ?
http://a1perform.com/2015/02/25/avtovaz-will-start-new-engine-production-in-march/
sepheronx- Posts : 8870
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higurashihougi wrote:sepheronx wrote:They are going to try to achieve higher localization due to costs reasons.
Also, the ford plant making the engines wont be first of a foreign brand making engines in Russia. Nissan's H4 engine (I believe it is) is made in Russia for Avtovaz vehicles.
You mean this ?
http://a1perform.com/2015/02/25/avtovaz-will-start-new-engine-production-in-march/
That is it.
Although we do not know if it gone through or not. I can only assume due to current economic climate as well as sanctions.
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And now Volkswagen is starting engine production in Russia.
http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/67254/
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Good, put them in any Russian car and i'll buy itPapaDragon wrote:
And now Volkswagen is starting engine production in Russia.
http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/67254/