Russian Auto Industry

A camper to be percise. In Russia, besides maybe southern parts and locations near the black sea, is far too cold to live in one of those. Some young couple tried to do that here in Calgary, but froze to death during a winter snap.

Also, it is fug.... they should have just made the standard Gazell next and used as a trailer attachment. With having it merged together, it looks terrible and the color scheme of the cab should have been the same as the trailer part.

sepheronx wrote:Too many automotive companies. Far too many, even for a country like Russia.

I think it may be in their best interests to start merging some brands like UAZ and GAZ, while VAZ takes ZIL.  Combined revenues will allow them to produce even better automobiles, and combined, could have a better chance of filling various countries with all types of products as there is 1 company involved in agreements rather than hald a dozen.

Way smaller Italy has FIAT, lamborghini, Lancia, Alfa Romeo, Ferrari, Bugatti

Japan has: Daihatsu, Suzuki, Honda,Mitsubishi, Isuzu, Nissan, Mazda

Russia has the same or more automotive potential than these countries so half a dozen companies shouldn't be excessive.

And now can you see why the automarket is always in trouble? Way too much over production.

sepheronx wrote:A camper to be percise. In Russia, besides maybe southern parts and locations near the black sea, is far too cold to live in one of those. Some young couple tried to do that here in Calgary, but froze to death during a winter snap.

Well, people can still use it in spring and summer, no?

cars look pretty good, front is a bit wild cat like.

would love to see some interior pictures

KomissarBojanchev wrote:If fucking spain which has far less experience, and in a massive crisis can still churn out millions if SEATs then I find it hard to believe neither ZIL, GAZ, UAZ has a penny to spare to create some middle class cars, volga preferably.

SEAT only survived until now because they had the support of a big group like Volkswagen. SEAT is a continuous headache for Volkswagen, who supports the continuous loses of the brand year after year. Slowly the factory that produced always the SEAT cars (located in Catalonia), begins to produce Audi cars. SEAT is becoming a one or two cars (basically Ibiza and Leon) brand (like Mini or Smart).

Svyatoslavich wrote:

sepheronx wrote:A camper to be percise. In Russia, besides maybe southern parts and locations near the black sea, is far too cold to live in one of those. Some young couple tried to do that here in Calgary, but froze to death during a winter snap.

Well, people can still use it in spring and summer, no?

Like I said, a camper. So yes, during spring/summer/fall kind of thing. For when people want to leave the cities/towns and go enjoy themselves near a lake and have a camp fire and what not. Not a bad idea of course, I just think the execution of it could have been way better (trailer rather than it being actual part of the vehicle).

The new LADA xray looks sick of beauty..

Is a fantastic new modern design and not only the exteriors but interiors too...

me wants one..  anyone knows where Lada Xray is sold and its price in dollars?




There is also really amazing new cars coming from Russia from the
Sport super luxury market..  The Marusia designer is now working on Wolf


http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150728/1025145424.html

but the most amazing sport car in the world will be the Vector raven
that they planning to build..





http://sputniknews.com/science/20150821/1026025280/russia-supercar-lada.html

Finally an interesting report/video of the AutoBaz Lada car maker in Russia..



Did anyone notice the LADA XRay model have an "X" shape in the front of the car..
That was brilliant.. really like it..    

Im really convinced Russia can truly become really successful developing at home all the cars
they need for its entire society.. From economical ones to the most expensive.. and not junk
cars.. but very modern ones..   Should be amazing to see Russia completely replace every
technology they buy from the west.. I really think Europe is shooting in their own shoes with the sanctions on Russia..  They lost the Food industry and European Car industry is now in danger
of being over taken by the domestic one ,most of its sales that is. A BMW will continue to be
a state of the art machine.. for long time. Still the thing that Russia fails miserably is in promotion.. they suck in promotion.. They have RT media and Sputnik and do not propertly
take advantage of such powerful mediums of information.. Russia should have full adversing for weeks or more their newest stuff.. that people are never aware of it unless they use google.

I wonder what import laws are here. If it aint all bad for importing, I will purchase one.

Lada Kalinas and Grantas are of much better quality than before. Actually, they are probably avtovaz's best quality ones.

Edit: i must be pissing people off that I am losing rep like mad.

sepheronx wrote:I wonder what import laws are here. If it aint all bad for importing, I will purchase one.

Lada Kalinas and Grantas are of much better quality than before. Actually, they are probably avtovaz's best quality ones.

Edit: i must be pissing people off that I am losing rep like mad.

I think we have a fresh crop of hater trolls who don't post much but downvote any sane member.

You guys are so sweet

But yes, KVS, do you happen to know our import laws for automobiles?

sepheronx wrote:You guys are so sweet

But yes, KVS, do you happen to know our import laws for automobiles?

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5048-eng.html

Looks like you are out of luck for new vehicles not manufactured in the USA. Of course, this regulation
is total BS and designed to secure the market (aka racket) from unwanted competition. At one stage
the USSR was exporting Ladas to Canada, so Avtovaz possibly could export again, but it likely has to face all sorts
of hurdles that don't make it worthwhile.

LADA Xray model..



looks awesome.. and is 4 x 4...

Anyone knows the price in dollar the car will be sold to the west?

Will love to have one.. in that save color.. looks dam good..and futuristic.

Perhaps the biggest news of this year:

http://top.rbc.ru/business/03/09/2015/55e792339a794758617cbaa2

Ford will start building car engines (3 different variants of 1.6 liter) in Russia:

-First car company to start produce car engines domestically
-Investment of 275 million dollars
-95% automated
-Creation of 200 jobs
-Expected to produce 105,000 engines annually

And perhaps the best news of all is that the components for the engines will be 100% Russian. Yes, that means all the engine's details.

Neutrality wrote:Perhaps the biggest news of this year:

http://top.rbc.ru/business/03/09/2015/55e792339a794758617cbaa2

Ford will start building car engines (3 different variants of 1.6 liter) in Russia:

-First car company to start produce car engines domestically
-Investment of 275 million dollars
-95% automated
-Creation of 200 jobs
-Expected to produce 105,000 engines annually

And perhaps the best news of all is that the components for the engines will be 100% Russian. Yes, that means all the engine's details.

Basically that means, in essential, another U.S. company place an order for engines to Russian manufacturers.

Another meaning is that, well, sanction my **s.

BTW, same news, in English.

http://sputniknews.com/business/20150903/1026529756.html

higurashihougi wrote:

Neutrality wrote:Perhaps the biggest news of this year:

http://top.rbc.ru/business/03/09/2015/55e792339a794758617cbaa2

Ford will start building car engines (3 different variants of 1.6 liter) in Russia:

-First car company to start produce car engines domestically
-Investment of 275 million dollars
-95% automated
-Creation of 200 jobs
-Expected to produce 105,000 engines annually

And perhaps the best news of all is that the components for the engines will be 100% Russian. Yes, that means all the engine's details.

Basically that means, in essential, another U.S. company place an order for engines to Russian manufacturers.

Another meaning is that, well, sanction my **s.

BTW, same news, in English.

http://sputniknews.com/business/20150903/1026529756.html

On the same subject: http://autodni.ru/news/284159/

Volkswagen will also start producing car engines in Russia. No idea about the level of localization though.

They are going to try to achieve higher localization due to costs reasons.

Also, the ford plant making the engines wont be first of a foreign brand making engines in Russia. Nissan's H4 engine (I believe it is) is made in Russia for Avtovaz vehicles.

sepheronx wrote:They are going to try to achieve higher localization due to costs reasons.

Also, the ford plant making the engines wont be first of a foreign brand making engines in Russia. Nissan's H4 engine (I believe it is) is made in Russia for Avtovaz vehicles.

You mean this ?

http://a1perform.com/2015/02/25/avtovaz-will-start-new-engine-production-in-march/

higurashihougi wrote:

sepheronx wrote:They are going to try to achieve higher localization due to costs reasons.

Also, the ford plant making the engines wont be first of a foreign brand making engines in Russia. Nissan's H4 engine (I believe it is) is made in Russia for Avtovaz vehicles.

You mean this ?

http://a1perform.com/2015/02/25/avtovaz-will-start-new-engine-production-in-march/

That is it.

Although we do not know if it gone through or not. I can only assume due to current economic climate as well as sanctions.