National Media of Russia

flamming_python wrote:

TR1 wrote:RT is mixed.
They are often annoying conspiracy theorists.
THey sometimes have decent reports where politics isn't involved.
They have this one guy who does interviews who makes me cringe HARD.

Suffice it to say, I don't watch the show. 
But then again I only watch Colbert and Stewart, and thats not for news.

Funny thing about RTs interviewers

My dad knows one (Al Gurnov)

And I know another (Peter Lavelle). Well virtually anyway, used to take part in a tiny political usergroup he ran on Google Groups and a small bunch of us would would always discuss Russia and politics.

I like Peter Lavelle. Its a weird thing to say, but he seems like some jovial uncle or something...
Anyway, its nice to see a foreigner with a real passion for Russia too.

Some of the conspiracy stuff is a little off. Ofcourse I don't agree with everything about RT, but generally its pretty good. Also the presenter women tend to be hot (that is important for someone as superficial as me   ), altho I think its a shame when some of them try and Americanise their acccents.

I also used to like Moscow Out. Altho the host, Martin Andrews always reminded me of a serial killer. He'd always start the episode sitting ontop of a rocking horse or something, coming out with this ridiculous and  decidely exaggerated chuckle...

Firebird wrote:I like Peter Lavelle. Its a weird thing to say, but he seems like some jovial uncle or something...
Anyway, its nice to see a foreigner with a real passion for Russia too.

He's a pure academic. An intellectual. Essentially a professor but with a public/'TV' personality that he can project; which is what got him the job at RT I guess.
But as is often the case with academics; he's a little naive.

I remember in the group I participated, one of his main predictions back in the day is how when Putin steps down in favour of Medvedev, he would retire from politics and go to serve as the head of the Sochi 2014 committee, something along those lines.

Well that might have been true for someone like Schroder, to be fair..

sepheronx wrote:
I will take interfax news over the state run if I want objectivity on news regarding the government. Ria was good indeed and was pretty objective, but ultimately, still state owned hence still federal government asset

Something changed after Putin rielection: Ria Novosti started to mix facts with opinions in the same article. Often opinions (without signature) was disguised as facts. One for all, a month ago, "Ukraine, a state with NATO ambition". Is a well note fact that Ukraine is, for now, neutral as stated by the constitution.

I usually did as follows: if I wanted to check the bad news, how could I say, the pessimistic mood of the nation, I checked Ria Novosti. On the contrary the optimistic mood was (is) in Itar-Tass (great prevalence of good news). The only neutral and professional is indeed Interfax. Unfortunatly is not for free   , so we have to live with a fraction of the newsline.

Sergey Ivanov today on Ria Novosti: “Russia has its own independent politics and strongly defends its national interests: it’s difficult to explain this to the world but we can do this, and we must do this,”

Russia, a country with his own way of being. I stand with Sergey, for now. But I think and hope forever.

Head of New Kremlin Media Agency Bids to Boost Russia's Image

This will end well. I just hope they will even more expand the news concering military.

I won't get into conspiracy theories whether Putin is concentrating power (I don't know enough about it) but RIA Novosti (the english version at least) has in recent years turned into pile of crap. Silly headlines, a lot of stupid opinion pieces and analysis. If I want to read liberast fantasies and propaganda I'll go over to the Russophobe blog or any MSM website for that matter....I won't miss it much since I rarely read it lately

The worst so far i could experience is LENTA ru, which called Khardakovsky in an interview completley innocent and that this regime jailed him for nothing, totally ignoring murders still under investigation, bribings of politicians, selling russian state industries in oil buisness, weapon smuggles and so on.

Completley innocent the poor oligarch with millions if not billions.

Such things as RIA Novosti and Lenta.ru are needed, in order to prevent everything being one-sided. Free Media is a good thing and Russia still has it in the printed and online sphere anyway, don't want that to be done away with.

flamming_python wrote:Such things as RIA Novosti and Lenta.ru are needed, in order to prevent everything being one-sided. Free Media is a good thing and Russia still has it in the printed and online sphere anyway, don't want that to be done away with.

Alternatives are always good but not lying shitty news that make up things just to harm reputation and through the constant and quantity overwhelming lies it tries to create a perception in favor for one side.

Perspectives are needed not bought lies.

I was in two minds as to whether I should post this topic under the RUSSIA thread or here .

I chose the later coz as a Weapons enthusiast I have often relied on RIA Novosti and Voice Of Russia for authentic information about the Russian Arms Industry .

It therefore came as a shock that RIA Novosti & Voice of Russia are being liquidated and will merge with several other state-run news agencies to emerge as Rossiya Segodnya .

RIA Novosti was established as the Soviet Information Bureau in 1941 and has since grown to become one of the world's largest international news agencies, with services in 14 languages.

Rossiya Segodnya is a newcomer , RIA Novosti and Voice Of Russia on the other hand is a brand name the world over .

Why destroy such a solid Brand Name ? People tend to believe in something that they are associated with for years .

Would like to hear the views of Forum Members .

RIA's editorial slant became quite pro-western in a very subtle way. I thought I was reading a news source based in London or DC. Obviously, I wasn't the only one who noticed.

Yes but that's good, it was a government-funded source but a clearly independent one.

I wouldn't say it was pro-Western at all.

Anyway, Shoigu announced the formation of a new military news agency a few days back. He's a smart man and had you people in mind and covered already.

Really? I thought that was because RIA and VoR sort of duplicated themselves, didn't they?

Because old propaganda wasn't working and they wanted to create new organs under politically reliable control.

In other words same old, same old.

TR1 wrote:Because old propaganda wasn't working and they wanted to create new organs under politically reliable control.

In other words same old, same old.

But they consolidate Ria and VoR under one company, don't they?
In that case, aren't the main reasons for such consolidations to reduce money spending?

Trust me, Russian government could care less about money spending of state media, as much as making Putin and Co look good.

TR1 wrote:Trust me, Russian government could care less about money spending of state media, as much as making Putin and Co look good.

Oh, I see. So the government want to make Putin and Co look even better. But is that even possible?   

RIA Novosti was one of my favorite news from Russia. It wasn't pro-Western and it was giving objective news. These days it's impossible to find objective news anymore, be it west or east.

flamming_python wrote:Yes but that's good, it was a government-funded source but a clearly independent one.

And imagine the thousands of employees of RIA Novosti who will be fired . This is disgusting . Already the job market is bad , the world over .

flamming_python wrote:Anyway, Shoigu announced the formation of a new military news agency a few days back. He's a smart man and had you people in mind and covered already.

Flamming , which one ? Got the URL handy ?

Deep Throat wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Anyway, Shoigu announced the formation of a new military news agency a few days back. He's a smart man and had you people in mind and covered already.

Flamming , which one ? Got the URL handy ?

Lost the original but found a couple other sources

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/defense-ministry-news-agency-planned-for-2014/490968.html
http://voiceofrussia.com/radio_broadcast/25950828/254784369/

Regular wrote:RIA Novosti was one of my favorite news from Russia. It wasn't pro-Western and it was giving objective news. These days it's impossible to find objective news anymore, be it west or east.

Regular,

This is an excerpt from a RIA Novosti "news" story "published" by "them" earlier today.

"... China's space program is an enormous source of pride for the country, the third to carry out a lunar soft landing — which does not damage the craft and the equipment it carries — after the United States and the former Soviet Union. The last one was by the Soviet Union in 1976. ..."

If you don't mind, here are a few questions.

When an uninformed person reads this paragraph, which country, do you think, he/she would think achieved the "first" soft landing on the moon?

Do you think the design of this paragraph was merely accidental, or it was purposefully crafted by some entity to achieve the effect I think it was supposed to achieve?

If you think the design of this paragraph was just accidental, then why all of RIA Novosti articles are similarly designed to achieve similar effects?

You didn't have to be a genius to see that RIA Novosti was run by the so called liberals (russophobes) and it's editorial policy was skewed in that direction. I was banned for posting critical comments on a couple of their crappy articles/oppinion pieces....so much for their freedom of speech.

If they want to spread anti Russian propaganda they can get employment in any opposition rag or western media outlet (they'll fit right in), not get paid for by the Russian state....good riddance! I'm only surprised it took as long as it did to get rid of them.

flamming_python wrote:Yes but that's good, it was a government-funded source but a clearly independent one.

I wouldn't say it was pro-Western at all.

Anyway, Shoigu announced the formation of a new military news agency a few days back. He's a smart man and had you people in mind and covered already.

Agreed, just because the editorials criticised some ministry policy doesn't make it pro-Western.  It makes it less biased. Now it is going to be another controlled state mouthpiece.