flamming_python Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:06 pm
Just some thoughts:
1. Per American historian Stephen Kotkin, the republic that suffered the most deaths from the famine was Kazakhstan
2. The Ukes like bringing up Holodomor because it allows them to deflect attention from their role in perpetuating the Holocaust. Every death camp in the reich had lots of Ukrainian guards.
3. The famine was caused by addiction to ideology, communism, that led the Stalin government to buy into the horrid junk science of Trofim Lysenko, a Ukrainian agronomist who killed several million in the USSR and millions more in China after Brezhnev finally gave him the boot. This junk science said that in a new workers' state the crops would reflect communist ideas and would cooperate and not compete for nutrients and resources. It was stupendously stupid and poorly thought out agricultural policy. It was not genocide as it did not envisage the deaths of any ethnicity.
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There were a lot of contributing factors for the famine deaths
1. Lysenko's fallacious agricultural theories and the inclination towards ideological pseudoscience that took hold under Stalin
2. A couple of pretty bad harvest seasons
3. Stalin imperative to export grain to fund the purchase of equipment and machinery from the West for industrialization, as they wouldn't take gold for payment
4. Cancellation of Lenin's New Economic Policy that enabled farmers and peasants to profit from surpluses grown, enticing them to increase production and work more - in favour of collectivization.
5. Harsh collectivization measures enacted on the ground to support the quota of grain that needed to be collected for export, with accusations of sabotage, etc.. against villages not providing as much as expected, and confiscation of stores of grain they need to survive the following year themselves. Against the nomadic pastoral farmers in Kazakhstan this had an even worse effect.
6. Campaign against the Kulaks (and Bays in Kazakhstan), rich landowning peasants typically with others in their employ, who were also skilled farmers and efficient organizers, later Zimbabwe and now South Africa repeated this mistake to worse effect with the land confiscations against the white farmers
7. Relief measures were enacted too late