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    Holodomor 1932-33: Genocide or unfortunate famine?

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    Do you view the soviet famine of 1931-32 an organised genocide solely against ukrainians?

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    Post  GarryB Tue 19 Apr 2022, 08:10

    the famine was part of bolsheviks BS economic policies

    Times were tough in the 1930s around most of the world and Russia was not the only place to have famines.

    Why do you think the US wanted to be paid in grain for their agricultural machinery and services?

    Could argue it was to create a famine in Russia but it is probably just as valid to say to reduce famine potential in the US too.

    Probably both.
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    Post  andalusia Tue 19 Apr 2022, 09:29

    The Czech Republic recognizes the Holodomor as Genocide:

    https://www.rferl.org/a/czech-recognition-holodomor-genocide/31789101.html
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    Post  ucmvulcan Fri 02 Sep 2022, 04:35

    Just some thoughts:

    1. Per American historian Stephen Kotkin, the republic that suffered the most deaths from the famine was Kazakhstan
    2. The Ukes like bringing up Holodomor because it allows them to deflect attention from their role in perpetuating the Holocaust. Every death camp in the reich had lots of Ukrainian guards.
    3. The famine was caused by addiction to ideology, communism, that led the Stalin government to buy into the horrid junk science of Trofim Lysenko, a Ukrainian agronomist who killed several million in the USSR and millions more in China after Brezhnev finally gave him the boot. This junk science said that in a new workers' state the crops would reflect communist ideas and would cooperate and not compete for nutrients and resources. It was stupendously stupid and poorly thought out agricultural policy. It was not genocide as it did not envisage the deaths of any ethnicity.

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    Post  GarryB Fri 02 Sep 2022, 07:08

    Ironic that the current regime is sending conscripts to their deaths in an apparent genocide of their own people... funny how they care so much for Ukraines killed in the 1930s but could care less about the Ukrainians they have been shelling the last 8 years or the Ukrainians they are sending to the front now to try to kill Russians with the inevitable result of them being killed in enormous numbers instead... and fully predictably too.

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