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    Post  mnztr Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:28 pm

    https://leaderpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/nornickels-2-bln-fine-will-be-used-to-improve-arctic-environment-putin

    Wow 2B!! I guess the bill became due.

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:44 pm

    mnztr wrote:https://leaderpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/nornickels-2-bln-fine-will-be-used-to-improve-arctic-environment-putin

    Wow 2B!! I guess the bill became due.

    That's a price of Lider icebreaker with half a billion to spare
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    Post  GarryB Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:28 am

    Wake up call to big companies who pollute and don't take it seriously...

    Perhaps a similar approach to Facebook and Twitter and Google et al...

    Their pollution seems to be even more toxic and far reaching...

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    Post  kvs Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:17 pm



    The liberast 5th column in Russia has been spreading for years that Russia is cutting down all its forests to export logs
    to China and elsewhere. This includes using fakes such as images of clear cuts in Indonesia and passing them off as from
    Russia. It tells you something that these clowns can't even use Google Earth images to "prove" their BS claims.

    According to a western evaluation of the state of forests around the world, Russia stands out as one of the least stressed
    in terms of deforestation. In fact, since 1988 the forest biomass has increased by 40%. This increase was associated
    with 47% increase in CO2 uptake. So Russian forests are fighting global warming.

    The evaluation is based on satellite measurements which establish an objective method and not speculation. As I said,
    if these liberast "the sky is falling, Russia is being sold by Putin to China" asswipes had a case they would have plenty of
    measurement data to prove it. Instead, they make vapid accusations and engage in the spreading of fake images.

    BTW, Google Earth allows you to roll back the years of the images. So any massive deforestation would be manifest.



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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:37 pm

    So the very west who sponsors these people discredits them. Lol
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    Post  owais.usmani Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:16 pm

    https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/russias-sakhalin-island-set-carbon-capture-deal-with-japanese-firm-2021-07-21

    YUZHNO-SAKHALINSK, Russia, July 21 (Reuters) - The Russian Pacific island of Sakhalin is close to a cooperation agreement with a Japanese company on carbon capture and storage technology as it moves to carbon neutrality by 2025, the regional governor told Reuters.

    Russia aims to make Sakhalin carbon neutral by 2025, the first region to do so in the country, and as the island needs to move quickly in adding renewable resources amid depleting fossil fuels.

    "The regional government is preparing to sign a cooperation agreement with a well-known Japanese company," Valery Limarenko said in emailed comments. He did not provide other details.

    Sakhalin is home to Russia's first plant to produce liquefied natural gas (LNG), operated by Sakhalin Energy. The company has worked out an "ecological LNG" strategy, Limarenko said, to cut its carbon footprint and supply carbon-neutral fuel.

    The region would introduce quotas for greenhouse gas emissions from two dozen companies operating on the island, in two steps: businesses with annual emissions of over 50,000 tonnes of CO2 equivalent would be targeted from 2023 and those emitting over 20,000 tonnes to follow from 2025.

    "We'd like to ... use the money (from quotas) to reduce emissions, spend it on research and development, adaptation to climate change," Limarenko said.

    The region aims to generate 28% of energy from renewable sources by 2025 thanks to the construction of wind, solar, geothermal and small-sized hydro-electric power stations, mainly on the Kuril Islands.

    The region will introduce 10,000 electric-powered vehicles and 1,000 charging stations by 2025 and plans to switch domestic heating boilers to using natural gas and LNG, including on the Kuril islands.

    Japan is claiming back some of the Kuril islands, invaded by the Soviets towards the end of World War Two. Russian President Vladimir Putin has proposed that Japanese business should jointly develop the islands.

    Sakhalin's oil output, led by ExxonMobil (XOM.N) and Rosneft , is set to fall to 15.2 million tonnes this year (300,000 barrels of oil per day) from 18.4 million tonnes in 2020, declining further to 14 million tonnes as its reserves dwindle, the governor said.

    Gas production, a feedstock for the Sakhalin-2 LNG plant, is seen stable at over 30 billion cubic metres per year.
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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:07 pm

    seriously, what a fucking shit article.

    Sakhalin isn't even part of the Kuril Islands and what Japan wants (what they claim is theirs), are the 4 kuril islands are north east of Japan, while Sakhalin is North-westish...

    Man, these articles suck donkey balls big time.

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    Post  kvs Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:47 pm

    Reuters is a sack of NATzO propaganda excrement. They make WWII sound like a Russian invasion. There was Japan, minding
    its own peaceful interests and those horrible Russians invaded. Reuters forgets that Germany lost real estate also thanks to being
    the aggressor in WWII and being "invaded" by the allies.

    As I said before, the long term agenda of NATzO revisionists is to put the blame for WWII 100% on Russia. Nazi Germany will
    soon be called a victim of Soviet aggression and the Holoacaust will be claimed as a Soviet crime. After all Auschwitz was built
    by Soviet soldiers. They will leave out the POW and first through the ovens parts.

    The average western MSM consumer may as well have an IQ of 80. If you don't use your intelligence, then it atrophies and
    becomes academic anyway.

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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:55 pm

    kvs wrote:Reuters is a sack of NATzO propaganda excrement.   They make WWII sound like a Russian invasion.   There was Japan, minding
    its own peaceful interests and those horrible Russians invaded.   Reuters forgets that Germany lost real estate also thanks to being
    the aggressor in WWII and being "invaded" by the allies.

    As I said before, the long term agenda of NATzO revisionists is to put the blame for WWII 100% on Russia.   Nazi Germany will
    soon be called a victim of Soviet aggression and the Holoacaust will be claimed as a Soviet crime.   After all Auschwitz was built
    by Soviet soldiers.   They will leave out the POW and first through the ovens parts.

    The average western MSM consumer may as well have an IQ of 80.   If you don't use your intelligence, then it atrophies and
    becomes academic anyway.

    scary part it works. Even in Japan. Which Japanese are known for being quite smart people. But they are intentionally hiding the information that US nuked them and instead most youth think it was Soviets who nuked them. Seriously.

    Only thing that stands in the way of all of that is both China and Koreas knowledge on WWII and their dislike for Japan.

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:57 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:seriously, what a fucking shit article.

    Sakhalin isn't even part of the Kuril Islands and what Japan wants (what they claim is theirs), are the 4 kuril islands are north east of Japan, while Sakhalin is North-westish...

    Man, these articles suck donkey balls big time.

    The Kuril Islands are part of Sakhalin Oblast administratively-territorialy

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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:58 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:seriously, what a fucking shit article.

    Sakhalin isn't even part of the Kuril Islands and what Japan wants (what they claim is theirs), are the 4 kuril islands are north east of Japan, while Sakhalin is North-westish...

    Man, these articles suck donkey balls big time.

    The Kuril Islands are part of Sakhalin Oblast administratively-territorialy

    Not of Sakhalin Island itself which this program is for. May fall under it administratively. Glad they can add all that bullshit to the article.
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    Post  flamming_python Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:01 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:seriously, what a fucking shit article.

    Sakhalin isn't even part of the Kuril Islands and what Japan wants (what they claim is theirs), are the 4 kuril islands are north east of Japan, while Sakhalin is North-westish...

    Man, these articles suck donkey balls big time.

    The Kuril Islands are part of Sakhalin Oblast administratively-territorialy

    Not of Sakhalin Island itself which this program is for. May fall under it administratively.  Glad they can add all that bullshit to the article.

    It's all one Oblast/territorial division

    So when they say Sakhalin Oblast, they may just as well be referring to projects on the Kurils (albeit usually they'd be mentioned specifically)
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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:03 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:seriously, what a fucking shit article.

    Sakhalin isn't even part of the Kuril Islands and what Japan wants (what they claim is theirs), are the 4 kuril islands are north east of Japan, while Sakhalin is North-westish...

    Man, these articles suck donkey balls big time.

    The Kuril Islands are part of Sakhalin Oblast administratively-territorialy

    Not of Sakhalin Island itself which this program is for. May fall under it administratively.  Glad they can add all that bullshit to the article.

    It's all one Oblast/territorial division

    So when they say Sakhalin Oblast, they may just as well be referring to projects on the Kurils (albeit usually they'd be mentioned specifically)

    of course they would specifically mention where. Sakhalin is the most populated of the oblast so of course they would be pushing the development there. The part that Reuters added is simply to shit on Russia with nonsense for the sake of it. I mean, after all, they have been proven to be working for British Intelligence agency. Jimmy Dore mentioned this with convo with Arron Matei and Glen Greenwald.
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    Post  Sujoy Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:05 pm

    The wildfires ravaging Siberia are quite un natural much like the floods in Germany. Here in India we have already been hit by 3 major cyclones. Western governments are blaming climate change for these events.

    But Kremlin needs to investigate if weapons like HAARP were used by the West to cause these catastrophic events.
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    Post  kvs Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:39 pm

    HAARP is tinfoil hat nonsense. I have been at conferences where US military associated researchers have been looking at using
    assimilation frameworks for inverting the sorts of perturbations required to change the weather. None of this work supports any
    sensitivity of the atmospheric-ocean system to tiny perturbations that any human technology can produce regardless of configuration
    to take advantage of the dynamical state or not. Blowing up several hundred nuclear bombs can impact the weather, but it will
    not get you a cyclone on demand.

    The often quote "butterfly effect" is ignorant BS. It originates from Lorenz's "butterfly" and the idea of sensitivity to initial conditions.
    But neither gives the fantasized super impact of a fart in a wind storm. The dynamical system has dissipation and some butterfly
    flapping its wings is not going to generate weather through nonlinear evolution of the system. Dissipation deletes this information
    and the nonlinear sensitivity is to larger scale perturbations. In fact, the dissipation happens on multiple spatial and temporal scales.
    The primary air diffusion is small, but there is "eddy" diffusion by boundary layer convective "turbulence" and 3D shear turbulence.
    There is eddy diffusion at the mesoscale and synoptic scale by continuously generated large scale eddies (weather systems).
    The system is layered with so many dynamical features that it breaks down coherent nonlinear resonances and oscillations. It
    looks deceptively linear through complexity.

    People who dismiss climate change are not educated. Climate is not weather and is not some "variability". It is about the energy
    content of the ocean-atmosphere (and land) system. Greenhouse gases do not have a variable effect, they act to accumulate
    heat energy that would have been lost to space as IR emissions above the tropopause. So-called skeptics try to argue from the
    glaciation cycle during the last 3.3 million years that CO2 follows temperature. So thus it has no role in climate. This is so retarded
    that the mind boggles. Orbital perturbations in surface insolation of the Sun's energy impose temperature trends that change the
    uptake of CO2 by the oceans. A cooling trend drives more CO2 into the oceans and without some magic source of CO2 showing up
    to offset the trend, there will be an amplification of the cooling trend. This is why we get glaciation which also progresses through
    increase of surface albedo. We can thank our lucky stars that we live in a geological epoch where this feedback is limited and we
    do not get the snowball Earth events from billions of years ago. The CO2 fall stops around 180 ppmv partly because of volcanic
    emissions but also because the land ice changes the circulation pattern. When North America is covered with a 3 km thick glacier,
    Siberia is free of ice and warmer. Glaciation in the old world is mostly in northern Europe. Another limiting factor is the reduction in
    CO2 loss to chemical weathering by land ice. At the same time colder ocean conditions promote the formation of clathrates at shallow
    depths. This reservoir of CH4 can be triggered by small changes in the ocean top layer temperature. (The CH4 originates from
    biological activity; ocean chemistry is much more influenced by biology than the atmosphere). Orbital perturbations kick us out of the
    glaciation through insolation changes which trigger both land ice melt and CH4 release from the oceans. This has happened roughly every
    120,000 years in the last 3.3 million years.


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