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    Iraq turns its eye on Russian weapons

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    Post  a89 Fri Jun 06, 2014 11:29 am

    MiG-27K were produced well before the mid 80s- they were some of the earliest MiG-27s accepted into the VVS (and the most advanced, they went for cheaper ones after).

    Yep. MiG-23MLD and MiG-27 were pretty useful in the early 1990s: low cost, loads of spares, decent avionics. It is a shame that cash strapped VVS could not keep them in service.
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    Post  iraqidabab Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:29 pm

    Has the 2nd shipment of 4 MI 35 become active in the army aviation yet ?
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    Post  AttilaA Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:55 pm

    Iraq is going to receive 24 Mi-35M and 15 Mi-28 in total.

    http://alexeyvvo.livejournal.com/69120.html
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    Post  mack8 Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:10 pm

    AttilaA wrote:Iraq is going to receive 24 Mi-35M and 15 Mi-28 in total.

    http://alexeyvvo.livejournal.com/69120.html

    Very slight correction, it's 28 Mi-35M and 15 Mi-28, total 43. 
    Continues active purposeful work to promote the Mi-35M in Latin America, Asia, Africa, the Middle East and the CIS. Executed a contract for the supply of 28 helicopters, K-8 foreign customer [probably Iraq, although previously reported plans to supply two agreements 2012-13. a total of 24 machines]
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    Post  sheytanelkebir Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:34 pm

    well its been a little "hectic" in Iraq... well with the effective breakup into three states so haven't really replied here much.


    just some news today that Russia delivered yesterday 6 more Mi35Ms

    http://iraqimilitary.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1122&start=150


    They damn well need these desperately now. the officer said they will be ready within a day to begin operations.
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    Post  iraqidabab Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:10 am

    During a ISIS parade multiple MI-35's spotted them, close to 200 ISIS were killed by the Mi35's attack.


    Anyone info on the MI 28 ? they are supposed to be delivered this month
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    Post  Strizh Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:51 am

    iraqidabab wrote:During a ISIS parade multiple MI-35's spotted them, close to 200 ISIS were killed by the Mi35's attack.


    Anyone info on the MI 28 ? they are supposed to be delivered this month

    Video from today, from 5:20 it looks like a MI 28.
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    Post  mack8 Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:56 am

    Seriously doubt it, we would know if any Mi-28s arrived in Iraq. Might be Mi-35M (considering they operate together with the Bell-407s), though the footage is too blurry to tell.
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    Post  Strizh Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:08 pm

    Holy shit, I've been watching news and they were showing Iraq and their army and I've spotted an Orsis T5000!!! Did Iraq buy any of them?
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    Post  Werewolf Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:16 pm

    Strizh wrote:Holy shit, I've been watching news and they were showing Iraq and their army and I've spotted an Orsis T5000!!! Did Iraq buy any of them?

    Yes iraq bought T-5000 orsis sniper rifles.

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t2122p150-iraq-turns-its-eye-on-russia Post. 154
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    Post  Strizh Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:42 am

    ^ Thank you for the clarification Smile

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    http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek#/beitrag/video/2181314/ZDF-heute-journal-vom-22-Juni-2014
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    Post  sheytanelkebir Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:05 pm

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28033684

    maliki announced that Iraq will receive some second hand jets from Russia and Belarus in the next few days.


    quite possible SU-25s? or even MiG23BN / MiG27 ?
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    Post  Hannibal Barca Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:20 pm

    So slowly but surely we start to grab the initiative in World's affairs. So far so good!
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    Post  macedonian Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:52 pm

    sheytanelkebir wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28033684

    maliki announced that Iraq will receive some second hand jets from Russia and Belarus in the next few days.


    quite possible SU-25s? or even MiG23BN / MiG27 ?

    sheytanelkebir, I'd really like to know your thoughts and feelings on how the US is influencing this whole mess.
    Nothing 'conspiracy theory' mind you, just what you think about Kerry's statements and his meeting with Barzani, and what was said after the meeting.
    Much obliged sheytanelkebir

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    And would you say my post is too harsh, or would you agree?
    Thanks mate.
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    Post  zg18 Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:43 pm

    sheytanelkebir wrote:quite possible SU-25s? or even MiG23BN / MiG27 ?

    Su-24s or Su-25s , Iraq needs air cover ASAP so MiG-23/27 are out of picture because they`re out of service. Sukhois are in service and operational and can be quickly put into Iraqi service.
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    Post  mack8 Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:52 pm

    Igor Korotchenko says Iraq might have bought 6 Su-30K! (the ex-indian ones) Also points to interest in second hand MiG-29 and Mi-24. Belarus offers some pretty cheap and capable upgrades for all these aircraft/helos btw.
    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20140626/1013733742.html#ixzz35lfIKhEK

    Of course, it's not clear if they bought aircraft from both Russia and Belarus, the Su-30K are sort-of in the middle as they are russian owned, but are overhauled in Belarus. But until we see them in Iraq, it's just rumours.

    And yeah Iraq could really use some Su-25s right now.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:39 pm

    I would say the best aircraft would be Su-25s, but also Su-24Ms with Russian advisors.

    I would also look at MiG-29SMT aircraft with targeting pods optimised to operate at medium altitudes using guided bombs... optical or laser guided.

    The altitude will keep them safe from ground fire but TV guided bombs and missiles will be accurate enough and lethal enough to do the job.

    Su-24Ms with the Gefest%T dumb bomb aiming computer that allows 8m or less CEP accuracy with dumb bombs from medium altitude would be a cheap safe way to deal with these invaders.

    Su-25SM3 aircraft would be effective too... plus a chance to test their self defence avionics suites would be useful... and operational testing of Vikhr-M...

    They should also offer armed drones for testing...
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    Post  iraqidabab Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:31 pm

    http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/28253931/rossiya-pomozhet-iraku-s-vozduha#ixzz35pnZlmhf

    Iraq purchased 2nd hand jets from Russia & Belarus

    6 SU 30K
    8-12 SU 27SM


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    drones have been purchased, semi confirmed.
    We don't need heavy airpower but drones, the heavy aircraft will kill civillians and anger them, the ground forces simply have to perform better ( aim not spray ) together with better command which will be overlooked by the USSF coming to Iraq.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:48 pm

    iraqidabab wrote:http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/28253931/rossiya-pomozhet-iraku-s-vozduha#ixzz35pnZlmhf

    Iraq purchased 2nd hand jets from Russia & Belarus

    6 SU 30K
    8-12 SU 27SM


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    CH-4
    CH-3

    drones have been purchased, semi confirmed.
    We don't need heavy airpower but drones, the heavy aircraft will kill civillians and anger them, the ground forces simply have to perform better ( aim not spray ) together with better command which will be overlooked by the USSF coming to Iraq.

    Keep in mind the cowardly Wahhabi extremists love to use human shields so civilian causalities will probably inevitable, but that should be minimized as much as possible, the main strategy is to use air power to pulverize ISIS to the extent that it's weak enough so the ground forces can successfully mop up the remnant combatants!
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    Post  iraqidabab Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:53 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    Keep in mind the cowardly Wahhabi extremists love to use human shields so civilian causalities will probably inevitable, but that should be minimized as much as possible, the main strategy is to use air power to pulverize ISIS to the extent that it's weak enough so the ground forces can successfully mop up the remnant combatants!

    Yes, but that's why the only things that fire in cities should be helicopters, hellfire missiles/Ataka. The fighter jets bombardment can be done on ISIS in the desert, they often spot huge convoys of ISIS in the desert, there the Sukhoi can unleash hell.

    Looks like mercenary probably Russian pilots will fly those jets as theres no way Iraq can get pilots ready in a short period of time.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:20 pm

    iraqidabab wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:

    Keep in mind the cowardly Wahhabi extremists love to use human shields so civilian causalities will probably inevitable, but that should be minimized as much as possible, the main strategy is to use air power to pulverize ISIS to the extent that it's weak enough so the ground forces can successfully mop up the remnant combatants!

    Yes, but that's why the only things that fire in cities should be helicopters, hellfire missiles/Ataka. The fighter jets bombardment can be done on ISIS in the desert, they often spot huge convoys of ISIS in the desert, there the Sukhoi can unleash hell.

    Looks like mercenary probably Russian pilots will fly those jets as theres no way Iraq can get pilots ready in a short period of time.

    Yes, were exactly on the same page here, use heavy aerial power in the desert while ground forces will have to take back cities and they should probably get tactics and advice from Syria on how to successfully re-take Wahhabi controlled cities. Aerial power should be used to cut off supply lines (warfare tactics 101) coming through the desert, and eventually the ISIS shock troops controlling cities will wither-on-the-vine.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:38 pm

    That satellite Iraq and Russia launched a while back would be very useful for finding targets and dealing with them.

    Drones and helos with guided weapons would be very useful for rooting out point targets in cities, but fixed wing aircraft with dumb bombs would be ideal for dealing with heavy weapons and large enemy groups on the move...

    Aircraft like Su-25 is especially useful when ground forces are attacking enemy positions... heavy resistance and the Su-25 can hit them hard... no resistance and the ground forces can move right through to the next target/ position.
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    Post  zg18 Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:23 pm

    First batch of Sukhois arrived to Iraqi service , Voice of Russia - Arabic service

    http://arabic.ruvr.ru/2014_06_28/274041830/
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    Post  iraqidabab Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:44 pm

    Iraqi soldier with OSV 96 sniper rifle 12.7mm anti material
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    That adds the OSV 96 as part of the 16.000 purchased sniper rifles from Russia.
    - OSV 96
    - T5000 orsis
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    Post  iraqidabab Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:43 pm

    zg18 wrote:First batch of Sukhois arrived to Iraqi service , Voice of Russia - Arabic service

    http://arabic.ruvr.ru/2014_06_28/274041830/

    The spokesperson
    of the General Commander of the Armed
    Forces, Qasim Atta, stated that the Russian
    Sukhoi Airplanes will join the battle against
    terrorism within the next few hours.
    In a press conference, Atta said “There
    Airplanes will join the battle within the next
    few hours to support the security forces in
    fighting terrorism.


    We have sources saying, SU30K, SU-27SM, SU-25.
    We'll have to wait to see which one(s).


    Anyway, this purchase will set the basis for Iraq's air force. If they will buy SU 30's/27's the air force will order new SU 30 or 35 instead of adding another new platform.

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