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    Who believes 9/11 was an inside job


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    Post  Vann7 Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:23 pm

    this one is also very good..

    3,457 architech and engineers ,including many international top companies in construction ,and international top scientist and demolition experts ,question the official narrative.
    Smoking gun evidence was in all 3 buildings that crashed ,of very advanced nano explosives ,in the debris of the buildings. Government and media largely ignores them and refuse an independent investigation. Wink

    I was one of those zombies ,brainwashed by the system ,that laughed at "conspiracies truthers" claiming it was an inside job. Then saw in youtube this video of an attack at the pentagon too by another plane  , and was curious about what ridiculous thing ,the truthers were claiming.
    but oh boy.. i did not laughed ,when i saw the near perfectly rounded hole in the pentagon. that was clear as water , a plane did not crashed there .Looked more like a missile attack ,that just went through it , but that had no explosives . Later the entire wall was demolished and the hole made bigger by the firefighters , after a small fire in the place..  the video was later taken down and could not find it again.

    This was a real shocking to me , how can this be real , do they really fabricated the entire thing?
    then saw another video and another , showing the inconsistencies ,and the way the buildings collapsed. specially building 7.. and that was more than enough to see , the whole thing was made up. a false flag event . and much later found the Architects & Engineers website.. which only confirmed with science the fraud.

    there was no questions to me , it was all an internally done job ,with foreign nations complicity ,in covering up. including the highly corrupt President of Russia ,vladimir putin , who helped cover this crime and denied any wrong doing in this attack , perhaps in change for support for a gas pipeline to europe.

    My Question was , if the US gov with Federal gov support and military help can get away with this (911 wtc inside job attacks), then they will not stop here and do far more terrible things in the future. And it did not took long to see all this other major false flags operations in the world.. including the one we have today.. The masterminds behind 911WTC terror attacks, are the same people behind today covid19 pandemic. and i don't know exactly who they are ,but in both cases..
    the US top banking industry  was well aware of this major events.  And rockefellers events papers ,also predicted more than 10 years ago, a world wide pandemic with a respiratory virus that will spread like wildfire , and china was mentioned in their papers ,as the most likely place will start.
    they are either super humans ,that can see the future more than a decade ahead what will happen, or else their predictions are in reality agendas, policies their puppet governments needs to implement ,at any cost , to keep the western world system going.

    Rockefeller Foundation Paper Published in 2010 Predicted How a Pandemic Can be Used as an Excuse to Establish Global Authoritarian Power


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    Post  kvs Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:03 pm

    I would have been one of the millions of saps who thought these events were genuine back in 2001.    Now I am not convinced.
    The idea that the 767 could penetrate the building (as proven in the video and even the quote from Peter Jennings) in real time
    as if it flew through it is total nonsense.   People quibble about the "free fall" speed of the tower collapse which is not really free
    fall and rather plausible for this type of building, but this video is a show stopper.   Even if you throw them a bone and say that
    this is not the nose of the plane but the plume of debris, it is exactly the same physics problem.   Any debris generated by the
    impact on one side would not conserve momentum and "continue to fly" out the other side.  

    The 767 is not a solid unphysical object with zero elasticity that just penetrates the target with a tiny slow down.   It is an
    egg shell husk that disintegrates on impact.   If you doubt this, then consider the debris field from the alleged crash of one of
    the hijacked jets a farmer's field.   That some jet crashes have intact chunks on the ground reflects the landing effort of the pilots
    which managed to slow the aircraft enough.   An uncontrolled crash from high altitude leaves little pieces of aluminum and seating
    everywhere.   So the alleged impact of a 767 into one of the twin towers would have produced a plume of debris that would undergo
    rapid deceleration.   The igniting jet fuel would just contribute to the formation of such a plume.   Any rapidly flying debris would
    simply not have the coherence to produce a clump coming out the other side that looks like the nose of a jet.  

    Also, the twin towers had a design that used the outer wall as a load bearing structure.   So it was not a glass shell but a steel
    beam and reinforced concrete structure with small narrow windows.   The 767 would not slice through this like a hot knife through butter.  
    It would not survive going through.   Sure, the empty floor space aside from the inner load bearing elevator shaft core, would offer little
    resistance to the debris.   But there would be no reason why the debris would fly like a clump to make the illusion of a nose coming out
    the other side with negligible delay.

    Since we are dealing with real time video hacking, the fire plume ejection out the other side of the tower would overlap the nose
    that was not masked off properly.   This fire debris ejection would have been anchored on the tower.   I think that in the video
    at the above link, the mask did not move because the helicopter shifted.   It was just a feck up.   The fire debris ejection was
    supposed to cover up the nose but didn't because the timing was wrong.   There is no reason to make the mask static, it could
    have been generated based on the contrast in luminosity at the opposing side of the tower.   I think the video hacker must have
    given this fraud some thought and accounted for the helicopter drift.  If you can insert video layers in real time, you can generate
    a dynamic mask as well.   It seems that the mask algorithm glitched.   So the screen blanking at this critical moment is a critical
    piece of evidence that fraud was involved.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:53 am

    The mass of the entire aircraft would be enormous, while buildings are traditionally designed to withstand downward forces... ie gravity... they are really not ideal to withstand sidewards forces... which is why earthquakes are so dangerous.

    The nose of an aircraft going right through a building I would believe because a building is a mesh of load supporting structures that resist vertical forces but not horizontal ones.

    Some of those load bearing structures would cut through an aluminium aircraft like a hot knife through butter but equally even with vertical cuts through its structure the rear end and entire mass of the plane is still pushing it into the building at what... 500km/h plus.

    It would take the width of most buildings to stop that sort of energy.

    The amount of fuel still on board the aircraft spread around 2-3 floors vertically of a sky scraper would immediately start a very intense fire and if it burned for a period of time then the heat will weaken the load bearing structures... when those load bearing structures gave way most buildings will collapse in on themselves... that is how buildings are demolished... small explosive charges are distributed around all the load bearing structures to destroy them all at once so that the weight of the building above it collapses down and crushes the building below it... as it crushes down it builds momentum and accelerates to speeds it was never designed to move at and when it reaches a point where it suddenly cannot crush what is below it it suddenly stops which causes the upper section to collapse upwards too like a car in a collision.

    Essentially you separate the top of the building and you use it as a hammer to crush the lower part of the building but the upper part... the hammer isn't some special designed hardened metal hammer so when the energy is applied to it it will of course collapse like the floors below collapsed under its weight and force.

    There is no reason to need explosives at all... the flammable material from each aircraft is easily enough to create this sort of situation.

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    Post  Vann7 Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:46 am

    GarryB wrote:
    There is no reason to need explosives at all... the flammable material from each aircraft is easily enough to create this sort of situation.

    3,457 architech and engineers disagree with you , including major construction companies and
    demolition experts. And plenty of witness that heard the bombs ,and this not mentioning
    the discovery evidence of nano explosives in all 3 buildings by the team of experts demanding an unbiased and independent investigation... sorry Garryb.. you are wrong.


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    Post  Vann7 Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:24 pm

    Russian media promoting 911 WTC (inside job operation) conspiracy facts ,with a tricky reverse logic report..  

    What RT did ,will be similar to saying in a report.

    US military "is not aiding" Alqaeda and Isis in Syria ,as putin claims , because doing such criminal
    operation will be impossible to keep hidden for so long without no one in the government or military speaking and it will have been impossible to hide for so long . So it never happened.. aside that there is evidence of US planes , by their own released videos of bombing alqaeda and isis.  

    So what the new RT report says about world trade center terror attacks?

    The conspiracies that the world trade center attacks was an inside job are not possible ,because
    such operation will have required hundreds and hundreds and more people in the government , military and intel agencies to participate on it , and to keep such a secret will be impossible.
    Aside , because there is evidence found near the towers debris of things that were property of the passengers of the plane. Rolling Eyes

    Jet Fuel Can Melt Steel Beams? 9/11 Eyewitness Reveals Why He Doesn’t Believe It Was an Inside Job

    For the zombies not paying attention , Russian media is promoting for the 10th and more time , consistently that the world trade center attacks was an inside job.. and for those dumb enough that still have doubts .

    What GarryB and his followers  .. will not like people in this forum to know..

    What Russian government paid media is saying about the world trade center terror attacks...
    official RT reports.. next..

    1) Daniel Sunjata: 9/11 was an inside job (part 1)

    2)911 reasons why 9/11 was (probably) an inside job

    (2015 report)
    3)Russia Today Declares ‘9/11 Was An Inside Job

    4)9/11 commission was ordered to scale down investigation

    5)“Part of US government and Congress lied” about 9/11

    6)CIA 9-11 Whistleblower Susan Lindauer Interview

    anyone that question the official government narrative in 911 declared a
    "Terrorist" or "iraqui spy" ? lol1

    How low people can go ,in supporting this crap.
    Surprise surprise , Unites States government ,lawmakers ,CIA ,FBI and Pentagon , includign
    defense secretary they all of them 5 months in advance of a plan to hijack major airliners civilian planes ,and use them as missiles against world trade center .

    but guess what? opps.. Because society are stupid , we are supposed to believe that the same day of the attacks "by coincidence" the pentagon empty all their military bases from combat planes, and decided to do a "anti terror Training" hundred of kilometers away ,removing all military planes that could have stopped any violation of airspace and protected the world trade center. Rolling Eyes

    So the pentagon knew , and allowed it to happen.
    and arrested the whistlerblower to prevent her to continue spreading the voice to warn every agency in the government about it.   Neutral

    This is the great Anglo world behavior, The horse shit stinking crap , that ->Garryb so shamefully support , and don't feel bad about it ,by becoming the major public relations /damage control manager of the anglo west in the most sensitive issues . By using every opportunity he can to come in the defense of the the anglo west official narrative and cover up their terror crimes against humanity ,as he is doing by defending the official 911 narrative and today plann-demic . No


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    Post  kvs Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:26 pm

    The mass of a 767 is not enormous. The jet fuel accounts for a substantial part of it. The 200 variant has an MTOW of
    143 tons of which 51 tons is fuel and 33 tons is payload. With 51 tons of fuel the impact would be like a fuel-air bomb
    as the fuel disperses and ignites. This detonating plume would be spreading out inside the building in the set of floors
    that it intersects, here over three of them. Such a detonating plume would be expanding in every direction and not just
    moving forward at the initial speed before impact. This expansion would dilute the concentration of mass coming out
    along the forward moving conic by at least a factor of 10.

    The jet can weigh 1000 tons and it still would not matter because it is not a solid clump of metal but a thin husk. Mass
    is not equivalent to mechanical integrity. The jet would break up into a plume of small debris even without the jet fuel
    detonation pushing this plume's rapid expansion. No way in this universe would a jet fly through a building of this size.

    The video of one of the jets entering one of the towers is a clear spliced image fake. It just goes into the building
    geometrically intact with no backscatter of any debris (from either the building or the jet) and its wings remain
    attached and unaffected like it is entering a cloud. I repeat, it is not plowing into a glass sheet, it is impacting a
    steel beam and concrete structure designed to carry the huge load of a building. It does not slice through such
    structures like a hot knife through butter.

    As for the "designed only for vertical loading", that is simply not true. Skyscrapers are designed to bend like reeds in the
    wind since horizontal wind forces are substantial. So such structures need to survive resultant load vectors that deviate
    10 or 15 degrees from the vertical. Some aluminum husk is not going to penetrate them unaffected.


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    Post  JohninMK Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:37 pm

    Whilst not disagreeing that most of the aircraft is like an eggshell, from a frontal perspective it does have a 'battering ram' feature, the main floor as well as two very dense projectiles, the engines. I would have thought that if anything was going straight through and out the other side it would have been those engines.

    Indeed, engines are also a problem on the hit at the Pentagon. Where were they?

    The other big problem is WTC7. Nothing hit it so why did it collapse. Better still, if it was that vulnerable why are they still building buildings like that?

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:25 am

    I am of opinion the aircraft themselves brought the towers down.
    the ammount of kenetic energy involved is rediculous.

    Besides, what does it matter?.
    The U.S set events into motion that fed the U.S war machine and made a select few people rich.
    Meanwhile both american troops and people on the ground in the conflict zones payed the price for "operation enduring freedom".

    I disagree with "remembering" this too. like its some historical event.

    The problem is, all over the world we as humanity experience some really horrific stuff done by man-made actions.
    Nobody cares with what happens with those people afterwards.
    But whatever happens in the U.S, is put under an magnifying glass like it was some holy event.

    Anybody remembers Beslan, Russia?. Nobody cares in the west today.
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    I feel sorry for the loss of the people that all lost their lives in the 9/11 attacks on the world trade centers.
    But terrorism is not something unique to the U.S.

    Everywhere the U.S goes it arms radical insurgent groups up to the teeth.
    When you cut them suddenly from your support, you do not think this will be without consequence?.
    The current society and tech-level made the fact the U.S sits on an continent flanked by two oceans obsolete.
    Geopgraphic distance now means just time to get from A to B.

    What bothered me always was the excuses coming from the event afterwards.
    That Norad just had two jet fighters to defend their airspace with.
    That Bush could not reach anybody to form an emergency government body.

    If that is the case, your millitary is laughably vulnerable.

    Hit an panic button, and tell airforce bases to put fighters in the air as soon as possible.
    They are engaging air-liners, training rounds in their main guns would be enough.
    Call it, any exercising units are to abort training exercise. And report to relevant Air Control for Tasking.

    Either way, i survived my excursions into Afghanistan in one piece physically and Mentally.
    And i think i agree with most here this whole endeavour to bring "democracy" to Afghanistan was pointless as well.

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    Post  kvs Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:25 am

    The video evidence is fake.

    Sure, it is plausible for real jet impacts to bring down such buildings. Actually more likely than old style steel beam lattice buildings such
    as the Chrysler tower. But the video of the jet flying smoothly into one of the towers is complete nonsense. Physics requires debris
    to be flying away from the impact towards the direction the impacting object came from. This video has absolutely zero such debris.
    It does not have "a little". There is none. And frame by frame the jet retains its geometry as it fully enters the building.

    This is complete rubbish and a hoax. If this event happened as claimed, then there is no need for such fakery. The fact that the
    twin towers debris was disposed of in a high security operation as opposed to being removed as part of the reconstruction effort
    just adds to the likely fraud. While we had fully intact passports conveniently being found on street, which is physically impossible
    if the video of total entry and subsequent internal detonation is to be accepted as fact, we had no verification of actual aluminum
    jet parts in the towers debris. Aside from evidence of explosives.

    The US regime and its imperial ambitions cannot be given the benefit of the doubt. False flags are a key tool in the tool chest and
    suckers fall for it every time with inane plausibility arguments that they would not stage such false flags because people will talk or
    some other such shite. It does not take thousands of thousands of planners and a few executions on the street do wonders to
    keep people silent.

    Anyway, Russia gets accused of every tin foil that crime, but the US is all about honesty. BS.


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    Post  Vann7 Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:31 am

    The planes were all are fabricated by the mainstream media. The explosions were all internal..

    building 7 was not even hit by a plane and collapsed in a perfectly coordinated way ,that is only
    possible with remote controlled demotions ,where all floors collapse exactly at same time .
    and such a thing is impossible , that office fires can take down an entire steel building , in a perfectly coordinated way. Aside office fires , cannot melt steel. and the small office fires the building had extinguished way earlier.

    all this high security federal buildings their materials were designed to be unfriendly to fire , that
    creates a black smoke ,that takes away the oxygen that fire needs to expand. aside the most important smoking gun revelation , is that engineers took samples from the dust , in all 3 buildings,
    and they found evidence of advanced high tech nano explosives. Such things are not produced by
    mother nature, but in high tech military labs.. that only nations like russia ,china ,japan ,us and uk could produce in 2001.

    so the nano explosives alone contradict the official government story.
    the buildings were destroyed , to justify later endless wars , in the name of "fighting terrorism".
    we all know how US and UK and NATO "fight terrorism", providing weapons to isis and alqaeda and allowing them to take thousands of humvees without firing a single bullet. Iran even found irrefutable evidence that US military was in bed with Isis , because they hacked a US military drone
    and get access to the camera inside the drone , and they saw ,how american drones peacefully fly over , over isis positions , observing their public executions against civilians in the desert.

    and not a single bomb fired on a meeting of thousands of isis soldiers , the drone captured.
    Russia also released footage of how isis was allowed by NATO in syria ,to smuggle/steal oil from syria and transport it with thousands of trucks ,across turkey border ,to sell it.. and US military , never fired a single bullet against all this oil conboys.. neither stopped the companies in turkey buying the oil from isis ,that they stole from syria.

    here is the video that shows bulletproof evidence ,the smoking gun ,that the buildings
    were rigged by highly advanced explosives.. and that the fake "investigation , that the congress
    financed , did not even look for explossives , because they did not believed there was any. Rolling Eyes

    building 7 remote controlled demotion here..

    Scientist and architech for 911 truth ,calling the official investigation a cover up , a major fraud.
    they found smoking gun evidence of very high sophisticated nano explosives in the 3 buildings ,this was on 2001 ,things not produced by nature but by high tech military labs of major powers.


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    Post  Vann7 Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:55 am

    Airbornewolf wrote:I am of opinion the aircraft themselves brought the towers down.
    the ammount of kenetic energy involved is rediculous.

    actually not at all ,the planes were flying very slow , if you use the official videos released
    by fake news cnn and all other major bs media that americans love.  If there was a real plane
    crashing into a steel building ,the plane will have bounced back or get stuck in the metals columns
    with half of the plane outside.  But if you look at the bullshit released by your media ,

    not only the plane cut like butter the buildings. but they actually survive even after the planes ,
    both of them ,cross all the way into the other side of the buildings. lol1

    but wait there is more..  not only we are supposed to believe the planes fly through the buildings
    ,the first one hit ,lasted for an hour ,after the wonder planes cut them in half ,and pass to the other side. the planes images was all planted , and only the official videos of the government allowed in television.  people all heard the explosions ,but did not saw the planes .  only paid actors saw planes crashing.

    the fact that building 7 , was not even hit by a plane and collapsed also , like a house of cards ,even
    after all the fire was extinguished, shows it was all rigged. a setup ,with explosives , by a control demolition team. there is a testimony of a police officer that did enter building 7 ,before it collapse ,
    and then left ,after he found many people death inside , by explosives. his testimony was never included in the official report. US media never interview him . this is a federal police officer who was inside building 7 , and he was totally ignored.

    this video shows the truth , that world trade center was taken down by the Federal government
    and they covered it . building 7 is the key to expose the monumental fraud in wtc7 attacks.

    Thousand or american top architech , civil engineers , chemical engineers ,structural engineers , control demolition companies ,and other experts contradict the bullshit that Garryb and his followers
    promotes in this forum.

    Smoking gun report that proof 911 was an inside government job.. not alqaeda or afghan in caves.


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    Post  nomadski Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:04 am

    First my condolence to the innocent American people for loss of loved ones . Second as a quick reminder that 9/11 story , the official version can not be true . Because :

    ( 1 ) Even expert pilots need radio beacon to land such a plane on runway . Hitting a tower with such plane , needs at least as much skill . No way a plane could have
    been directed from afar and near to such a target , to hit it in such a way , by pilot trained on Cesna or video game . Impossible .

    ( 2 ) The collapse of buildings , compared to similar structures damaged by fire is not compatible . Either the buildings should not have collapse . Or collapsed partially
    and a non-uniform way . Falling over somewhat , twisting and bending . Impossible .

    ( 3 ) Discovery of intact passports of alleged perpetrators at the scene , shortly after impact by police officer , surviving fireball . Impossible .

    ( 4 ) Impact site at Pentagon , shows no evidence of impact by wings on structure . Video shows no plane . Impossible .

    ( 5 ) Discovery of American strain Anthrax in buildings , following attacks , being accidental . Impossible .

    Lessons are that all of us , must now be vigilant about false flag operations by the American deep state . The military industrial complex . That is how the world should change after 9/11 .

    RIP to all those who died in USA and the unjust wars on Afghanistan , Iraq , Libya and Syria .

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    Post  Guest Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:42 am

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:There are many people saying that 9/11 was a zionist conspiracy. Apparently the juice  decided to stuff the trade centre buildings with TNT and explode them and then put the blame on the muslims and giving incentive for operation iraqi occupation, afghanistan and more occupation  options in palestine for the zionists.

    Cool story but I find it hard to believe in

    I don't believe it was a Zionist conspiracy, but I do believe it was an inside job. How could a guy in a cave without internet have directed the largest terrorist attack in history when the Soviet Union could not do so?

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    Post  GarryB Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:09 am

    Why would the Soviet Union want to commit terrorist attacks on the US?

    Most of the cold war consisted of the CIA trying to do the exact opposite... faulty computer chips sold to the Soviets in the hopes they would use them in nuclear reactors or on critical systems to allow the west to sabotage their use.

    All this talk of nano explosives... by people who clearly don't understand what nano means...

    Osama was responsible for at least three other attempted attacks on the world trade centre... it is no great surprise he could be blamed for this attack, and considering the death and destruction the US inflicts on the world is it a huge surprise when it comes back to bite them in the arse?

    I mean I am seriously surprised that the really rich people in the US don't get shot on a regular basis... I mean Bezos makes people work for minimum wage during a pandemic and if they call in sick they get fired, which will mean they would lose their health insurance too... he is the richest man in the world and he treats his workers like cattle... you would think one or two of them would have taken a shot at him by now... and most of the other obscenely rich people in America who made their money on wars and the suffering and hard work of others.... why do Americans shoot bullies in high schools instead of the real monsters?

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