Iran's military reaction against USA - Israel in M.East

A bit of chest thumping.

Haji Zadesh claimed that 35 US bases are within the 2,000 km range of Iran’s rockets, although the actual number of bases within this area is closer to 10.

I suspect he would consider some bases in Saudi Arabia and Iraq as being US bases too.

The west likes to pretend that secret CIA bases are not American bases sometimes.

The amusing thing is that if Iran accused the west of doing something without actually giving any proof and imposed unilateral sanctions the west would consider that an act of war.

Talk about innocent till proven guilty...

I already knew it was chest thumping the second I read the headline. Plus, you know, it's RT, the Russian Fox News.

Still, it's an interesting article so I thought I'd post it here anyways.

Western media wouldn't spend too much time on this issue, because they don't want western audiences developing sympathy.

Iran is depicted as a religious dictatorship that stones women when they are not beheading them.

They will of course happily play any footage of Iranian military exercises and the threat to peaceful (oil) traffic such exercises represent... remember the mantra... western exercises promote positive ties and peace and stability in the region, all others are dangerous and destabilising or some sort of show of force or a prelude to a conflict.

BTW there is no Russian equivalent to Fox News.

RT is actually becoming more Americanised, which I really don't like much.

It might make it easier for Americans to relate to, especially the disaffected, but it pretty much alienates the rest of the world population that used to watch RT regularly.

Personally I liked seeing world events from a source not slanted by western views of the world, and of course I realise it was slanted in the Russian view of the world, but to me that is closer to reality than the CNN/Fox/BBC portrayal.

Now however the American journalists who got fired from western media, or couldn't get a job in western media because they didn't shape their stories to fit the western media mould seem to be getting jobs at RT and spend most of their time ripping on the western media slant on stories rather than bringing stories themselves.

It is almost as if Jon Stewart got his own TV News Channel, but no where near as clever or intelligently done in terms of satire.

I still download the Technology Update program each month, but rarely watch much else.

They need to make about 5 episodes of Tech Update a month, plus some programs focusing on the Russian military and its upgrade.

They could split the Tech update programs into a Science one, a Military one, a Business one, an Energy one, and a Manufacturing one that all include domestic and joint venture programs and projects. The programs are only a hour long and they rarely revisit technologies they have looked at in the past to see how they are progressing and what are the stumbling blocks to introduce new ideas and products.

Well Rianews isn't so bad, if you don't mind the voices that is.

German expert

Iran's elite Revolutionary Guard has claimed it has shot down an Israeli drone trying to approach the Natanz nuclear zone in the centre of the country.

"The downed aircraft was of the stealth, radar-evasive type and it intended to penetrate the off-limits nuclear area in Natanz ... but was targeted by a ground-to-air missile before it managed to enter the area," Iran's state news agency ISNA said.

If confirmed, an aircraft built by Israel's state-owned Aerospace Industries known as the Heron, or the more powerful Heron TP, is likely to have been involved for such a long-range mission.

Military commanders in Israel have described both as a possible means of monitoring Iran and other countries.

The Natanz facility is one issue at the heart of a long-running dispute between Iran and countries that believe it is seeking nuclear weapons capability, something Tehran denies.

Iran and six world powers are trying to negotiate an end to the standoff which has led to damaging economic sanctions imposed on the Islamic Republic.

Israel, widely assumed to have the Middle East's only atomic arsenal, demands Iran be stripped of all nuclear technologies, something Tehran rules out and which most foreign diplomats deem unrealistic.

Iran has accused Israel and its allies of assassinating its nuclear scientists and attacking its nuclear sites with computer viruses.

Israel has always declined comment on such accusations and on Sunday its military said it did not comment on foreign reports.

The Revolutionary Guards said of the drone incursion: "This wily act further exposed the Zionist regime's adventurous temperament and added yet another black page to a record filled with crime and mischief."

In December 2012, Iran said it had captured a United States intelligence ScanEagle drone, but the US said at the time there was no evidence to support the assertion.

A year earlier, Iran said it had captured a US RQ-170 reconnaissance drone which was reported lost by US forces in neighbouring Afghanistan.

Iranian commanders have since announced they had extracted technology from the aircraft and were reverse-engineering it for their own defence industry.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-25/iran-says-it-shot-down-israeli-spy-drone/5693100

Several news agencies are reporting the same but as yet I have seen no pics to support.

Here is footage.

Werewolf wrote:Here is footage.

thanks dude.

Can the S-300 system deal with Israeli F-16i Sufa strike force?
Tensions already escalating since yesterday's announcement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d6HLHB8IbU

pacificfreeintel wrote:Can the S-300 system deal with Israeli F-16i Sufa strike force?
Tensions already escalating since yesterday's announcement.

Yes it can of course much would depend on the quantities used on both sides because if you put 200 planes vs 2 AD than it does not make sense although 2 AD can surprise still

if you would put equal streinght on defense and offense than things get much more interesting.

pacificfreeintel wrote:Can the S-300 system deal with Israeli F-16i Sufa strike force?
Tensions already escalating since yesterday's announcement.

They could. Iranian S-300 will not work alone, but integrated in Iranian IADS. Iran have their own long range OTH radars, which will detect Israeli planes in Israeli air space and a network of various domestic and imported EW radars, so Israeli or US fighters could not come there undetected and make a surprise attack. IADS will work with Iranian fighters and with SAMs. Iran produce domestic medium and long range SAMs like Patriot clone based on Standard missile. This one is in class with early S-300 versions.

medo wrote:

pacificfreeintel wrote:Can the S-300 system deal with Israeli F-16i Sufa strike force?
Tensions already escalating since yesterday's announcement.

They could. Iranian S-300 will not work alone, but integrated in Iranian IADS. Iran have their own long range OTH radars, which will detect Israeli planes in Israeli air space and a network of various domestic and imported EW radars, so Israeli or US fighters could not come there undetected and make a surprise attack. IADS will work with Iranian fighters and with SAMs. Iran produce domestic medium and long range SAMs like Patriot clone based on Standard missile. This one is in class with early S-300 versions.

Good point about IADS - Russia sold 29 Tor M1 systems to Iran in 2005 which defend at a lower range but with high accuracy - can take down a missile or bomb - the TOR M1 compliments the S-300 system.

However Israeli reports that Russia gave Israel the access codes for the TOR system. There is some belief that Israel used these codes to neutralize Syria's TOR M1 system when Israel bombed Syria's "nuclear reactor" in 2007. Do you believe that Russia would undermine its own technology?

However Israeli reports that Russia gave Israel the access codes for the TOR system. There is some belief that Israel used these codes to neutralize Syria's TOR M1 system when Israel bombed Syria's "nuclear reactor" in 2007. Do you believe that Russia would undermine its own technology?

Hahahahahaa... Israeli reports are not worth the toilet paper they are written on... few governments at war tell anything like the truth.

How would Russia giving Israel access codes to TOR help Israel in their attack on Syria?

Why would Russia give Israel access codes to anything?

Syria doesn't have TOR or BUK or S-300.

In about 2006 Syria ordered some Pantsir-S1s which were delivered from about 2008 through to about 2013.

One of its features however is not time travel.

Iran Could Raze Tel-Aviv to Ground if Israel Attacks – Top General

If Israel tries to attack Iran, Tehran will raze Tel-Aviv to the ground, a top Iranian general said.

Intelligence agencies of the United States and Israel are responsible for causing political unrest in the Middle East, said top Iranian Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi, according to the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA).

The Zionists in the United States and Israel provoke separatism in the region with the help of different extremist groups, the Major General said.

If the Zionist regime continues to follow its aggressive policies in the Israeli-occupied territories, Safavi said that Hezbollah has 80,000 missiles that it can use against Israel.

Speaking about his country's security, the Major General boasted Iran is powerful enough militarily and therefore it can effectively defend itself against possible aggressors.

"If Iran is attacked, we will raze Tel-Aviv and Haifa to the ground. Iran and Hezbollah has enough potential to counter Zionist aggression," the General said, speaking on TV Wednesday night, cited by IRNA.

Safavi also said that Iran urges its regional neighbors to work collectively on security issues in the Middle East.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150521/1022423807.html#ixzz3aooj2uli

Can these missiles be countered by Iran if the US attacks it?

http://missilethreat.com/the-navys-little-missiles-could-be-popping-up-in-many-more-places/

They are just Hellfires in most practical terms... and optically guided systems too.

their short range means they are only threats to small vessels at sea... those small vessels just need something like PAPV, or some other dazzler system to negate the effect of IR or laser homing optics... or the obvious... it could simply carry missiles itself like Kornet-EM that could hit US vessels at stand off distances... ie hit the US ships before the US ships can launch at the Iranian small ships.

Knowing the Americans their small ships will likely only get one or two four pack launchers... the US ships will number in the tens or 20s which sounds like a lot of small missiles, but the Iranian speed boat attack method uses swarms of hundreds of small boats... if each have 8 ready to fire missiles with a 10km range in its current model then those US ships will be in trouble.

Thanks Garry B for the response. You are always well informed and articulate.

andalusia wrote:Thanks Garry B for the response. You are always well informed and articulate.

Garry is the best man!!

USA or Israel can drop two nukes in Teheran if they will.

jka wrote:USA or Israel can drop two nukes in Teheran if they will.

Nope firstly Iran will not be a aggressor it'll be Israel ( using US forces) . It ain't that easy to drop nukes on a nation now as you'll be suffering global backlash moreover it will initiate a geopolitical war . #Wet dreams

USA or Israel can drop two nukes in Teheran if they will.

Yeah... murdering millions of innocent people is certainly their favourite passtime, when they are not preaching to foreigners about how evil they are and why can't they all just accept and support their natural superiority in all things, they are murdering them with drones usually these days.

Of course the real problem with nuking Iran is that there is plenty of world wide revulsion at the actions of the west and this will make things much worse... wouldn't surprise me if the Iranians didn't just buy a nuke from North Korea or get South African assistance.

Hell even India might give them a nuke if they promise to nuke Pakistan while they are at it...

I really don't think the only country who has actually used nukes in anger will want to open that Pandoras box again... but you never know a bush or a clinton at the reins and it is certainly possible.

GarryB wrote:

USA or Israel can drop two nukes in Teheran if they will.

Yeah... murdering millions of innocent people is certainly their favourite passtime, when they are not preaching to foreigners about how evil they are and why can't they all just accept and support their natural superiority in all things, they are murdering them with drones usually these days.

Plus the president killed in bunker if Israel drop one or two nukes in Teheran...

Plus the president killed in bunker if Israel drop one or two nukes in Teheran...

Hahahaha... the irony... Israel, which never signed the non proliferation treaty and has illegal nuclear weapons dropping nuclear weapons on tehran to stop them being so damn aggressive...

It is like raping a baby because you think they might grow up to be a sexual deviant...  your preventative measure will ensure your fears are realised... but you wont see that and when they do get a capability to do the same to you and do it you will blame everyone else for their inaction...

But of course escalation is always the best solution... don't whatever you do talk to them and find out what they want and what they fear... that might only end in a lasting solution and peace but you might have to give up some things you have stolen in the past.

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not even the Israeli's are that stupid...they wont be nuking anyone anytime. The world is wakening to the dangers of past total Israeli support...the west, particularly in the E.U. are horrified by bibi and his merry bunch and are frankly sick to the back teeth of them.