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    Middle East air war: Israel - Egypt - Syria

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    Middle East air war: Israel - Egypt - Syria Empty Middle East air war: Israel - Egypt - Syria

    Post  nemrod Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:04 pm

    To understand the past air war, the present, and the future, it would be interresting to take a look what's happened in the middle east. This topic could be one of the most interresting subject -not because me  Very Happy - the work of Tom Cooper is in this regard very very precious. It helped us to understand the scale of the israeli propaganda, and worst, the overall western propaganda. You could notice that most of the syrian victories occured thanks to soviet aircrafts. You can notice that as, Israel, during the air battle war in 1973, just only 5 air to air arabs victories occured. Figures completly stupid as we will see next.





    http://www.acig.info/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=34&Itemid=47
    List of confirmed, claimed, and probable air-to-air victories scored by Syrian pilots since 1948

    Last Update: 22 April, 2006
    Date Unit Aircraft Pilot Weapon Victim Country
    10Jul48   T-6 Harvard M.a-Din Wadi (gunner) 7.62mm S-199 101Sqn/IDF/AF
    6Nov56   Meteor F.Mk.8 al-Garudy 20mm Canberra PR.Mk.7* RAF (shared)
    6Nov56   Meteor F.Mk.8 Assasa 20mm Canberra PR.Mk.7* RAF (shared)
    5Jun67   MiG-17F Z.el-Baowab 23/37mm SMB.2 105Sqn/IDF/AF (pilot Sigiri)
    5Jun67 3 Sqn MiG-17F M.A.Qubaisi 23/37mm SMB.2 105Sqn/IDF/AF (pilot: Mordechai)
    5Jun67 5 Sqn MiG-21PF H. 2xR-3S Vautour 110Sqn/IDF/AF
    5Jun67 5 Sqn MiG-21PF ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ 101Sqn/IDF/AF
    5Jun67 77 Sqn MiG-19S G.el-Wazwazy 23/37mm Mystére IDF/AF
    5Jun67   MiG-17F ? debris Mirage IIICJ ?Sqn/IDF/AF (Hankin OK)
    6Jun67 77 Sqn MiG-19S S.Fathi 30mm SMB.2 IDF/AF (damaged)
    7Jun67   MiG-21   R-3S Mirage IIICJ 29 IDF/AF (Dothan OK)
    24Feb69   MiG-21FL   R-3S Vatour IIN IDF/AF (damaged)
    8Feb70   MiG-21FL   R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged)
    2Mar70   MiG-21FL   R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    2Apr70   MiG-21PFM B.Hamshu R-3S F-4E 69Sqn/IDF/AF (Magen/Nahmani)
    26Jun70   MiG-21 ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ ?Sqn/IDF/AF (Eitan PoW)
    4Nov71   MiG-21FL F.Mansour? R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (Slapak?)
    14Nov71   MiG-21FL ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    8Jan73   MiG-21MF   R-3S Mirage IIICJ 68 117Sqn/IDF/AF
    13Sep73   MiG-21FL A.el-Gar R-3S RF-4E IDF/AF
    13Sep73   MiG-21FL Halabi R-3S Nesher S IDF/AF (pilot Simchoni)
    13Sep73   MiG-21FL A.el-Gar R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    6Oct73 5 Sqn   MiG-21MF B.Hamshu R-3S A-4E IDF/AF
    6Oct73 5 Sqn MiG-21MF ? R-3S "Mirage" IDF/AF
    7Oct73 5 Sqn MiG-21MF M. Badawi R-3S F-4E 177? 69Sqn/IDF/AF (Alkalai/Wolfson Pow)
    7Oct73   MiG-21FL Kokach R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    7Oct73   MiG-21 ? R-3S F-4E 615 201Sqn/IDF/AF
    7Oct73   MiG-21FL EAF Pilot 23/37mm F-4E IDF/AF (damaged)
    7Oct73   MiG-21FL ?   A-4E IDF/AF
    7Oct73   MiG-21FL Sarkees R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    7Oct73   MiG-21FL Dauvara R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged)
    7Oct73   MiG-21FL Dibbs R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    7Oct73 5 Sqn   MiG-21MF B.Hamshu 23mm A-4E IDF/AF
    7Oct73 5 Sqn   MiG-21MF B.Hamshu 23mm Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (Lahav? KIA)
    7Oct73 5 Sqn   MiG-21MF ? R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    8Oct73   MiG-21FL al-Hamidi R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    8Oct73   MiG-21FL Asaf R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    8Oct73   MiG-21FL Kahwaji R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    8Oct73   MiG-21FL Jelyi R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    8Oct73   MiG-21FL al-Zo'aby R-3S A-4E IDF/AF
    9Oct73   MiG-21FL A. el-Gar R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    8Oct73 5 Sqn   MiG-21MF Kokach R-3S RF-4E IDF/AF
    9Oct73   MiG-21FL A. el-Gar R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    10Oct73   MiG-21FL G.E.Khaddam R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (Karmi? OK)
    10Oct73   MiG-21FL G.E.Khaddam R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    10Oct73   MiG-21FL   R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
    10Oct73   MiG-21FL   R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
    10Oct73   MiG-21FL   23/37mm F-4E IDF/AF
    11Oct73 5 Sqn   MiG-21MF B.Hamshu 23mm A-4E IDF/AF
    12Oct73   MiG-21FL M.Mansour R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (Roke’ach? OK)
    12Oct73   MiG-21FL   R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    12Oct73   MiG-21FL A.H. R-3S F-4E 201Sqn/IDF/AF (Regev/Shmueli OK)
    12Oct73   MiG-? ? ? F-4E 151 107Sqn/IDF/AF (Goren/Oren recovered)
    12Oct73   MiG-21FL M.Mansour R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
    12Oct73   MiG-21FL   R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
    12Oct73   MiG-? ? ? F-4E 618 201Sqn/IDF/AF (Benaya/David recovered)
    13Oct73   MiG-21FL   R-3S Mirage IIICJ 74 IDF/AF (Lanir? KIA)
    16Oct73   MiG-21FL Asaf R-3S Nesher S IDF/AF
    16Oct73   MiG-21FL A.el-Gar R-3S+23mm F-4E* IDF/AF (shared)
    16Oct73   MiG-21FL Zo'aby R-3S+23mm F-4E* IDF/AF (shared)
    17Oct73   MiG-21FL Kokach R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    17Oct73   MiG-21FL el-Ali R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    17Oct73   MiG-21 ? fuel starvation Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (Adar OK)
    18Oct73   MiG-17F N.Galaby 23/37mm F-4E IDF/AF
    20Oct73   MiG-21MF ? R-3S F-4E 142 119Sqn/IDF/AF (Sagi/Bartov)
    21Oct73 5 Sqn MiG-21MF al-Hamidi R-3S F-4E 201Sqn/IDF/AF (Barnea/Harau)
    22Oct73 8 Sqn   MiG-21MF al-Taweel R-3S Nesher S IDF/AF
    22Oct73 8 Sqn   MiG-21MF A.el-Gar R-3S Nesher S IDF/AF
    22Oct73 8 Sqn MiG-21MF E.al-Masry R-3S Nesher S IDF/AF
    22Oct73 8 Sqn   MiG-21MF al-Taweel R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
    23Oct73   MiG-21 Shakruw R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
    23Oct73   MiG-21 S.Habal R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
    26Oct73   MiG-21MF M.Mansour R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    15Apr74   MiG-21 ?   Mirage IIICJ 52 IDF/AF
    19Apr74   MiG-23MS E.al-Masry R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    19Apr74   MiG-23MS E.al-Masry R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    19Apr74   MiG-21MF M.Mansour R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    19Apr74   MiG-21MF M.Mansour R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    26Apr74 67 Sqn MiG-21F-13 S.Alvi (PAF)   Mirage IIIRJ IDF/AF (Note 1)
    4Jun74   MiG-21MF ?   Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    26Apr81   MiG-21MF   R-13M A-4E IDF/AF
    26Apr81   MiG-23MS ? R-13M A-4E IDF/AF
    29Jun81 1 FIS MiG-25PD(e)   R-40R F-15 IDF/AF
    6Jun82   MiG-23MF Zachariah R-23R BQM-34 IDF/AF
    7Jun82   MiG-23MF Merza R-23R F-16A IDF/AF
    7Jun82   MiG-23MF Merza R-23R F-16A IDF/AF
    8Jun82   MiG-23MF Hau R-23R F-16A IDF/AF
    8Jun82   MiG-23MF Hau R-23R F-16A IDF/AF
    8Jun82   MiG-21     A-4H IDF/AF
    8Jun82   MiG-21     A-4H IDF/AF
    9Jun82   MiG-21bis Harra R-60 F-15D IDF/AF (damaged)
    9Jun82   MiG-23MF Deeb R-23R F-16A IDF/AF
    9Jun82   MiG-23MF Nahhas R-23R F-16A IDF/AF
    9Jun82   MiG-21bis   R-60 Kfir C.2 IDF/AF
    9Jun82   MiG-23MF Ali   F-4E* IDF/AF (shared)
    9Jun82   MiG-23MF Toma   F-4E* IDF/AF (shared)
    10Jun82   MiG-21bis ? R-13M F-4E IDF/AF
    11Jun82   MiG-23MF al-Kherat R-13M F-4E IDF/AF
    11Jun82   MiG-23MF Zo'aby R-13M F-4E IDF/AF
    11Jun82   MiG-21bis   R-60 F-4E IDF/AF
    11Jun82   MiG-23MF   R-24R E-2C IDF/AF
    3Jul82   MiG-21bis     F-15 IDF/AF
    ??Oct82 5 Sqn MiG-21MF al-Masry   R-60 RF-4E IDF/AF (damaged)
    4Dec83   MiG-23ML     F-15 IDF/AF
    4Dec83   MiG-23ML     F-4E IDF/AFF
    21Oct89   MiG-21bis   23mm BN-2A-3 Islander (TC-KUN, c/n 272) TGDLR (Note 2)
    ??Apr02 ? MiG-23ML/S ? R-60? UAV IDF/AF

    Additional infos from:

    Yasser al-Abed and Hubert Seliger

    Note 1:

    The IDF-AF lost no Mirage IIICJ or IIIRJ (recce-version) on this day. It is possible, however, that there is a mix-up in relation to the date, and that this Pakistani claim stands in some relation with the loss of an IDF/AF Mirage IIIRJ on 6 May 1974.

    Note 2:

    Turkish Photographic-survey aircraft of type Britten-Norman BN-2A-3 Islander, belonging to Turkish General Directorate of Land Registry (annexed unit of Ministry of Public Works and Settlement) - hence an unarmed government aircraft - was shot down by two Syrian MiG-21 (which violated Turkish airspace) in Samandag District of Hatay, Turkey, killing a crew of two and three technicians. Special thanks to Mr. Kursad A., Mr. Feridun Tasdan, and Mr. Turhan Gungor for details.
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    Post  nemrod Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:10 pm

    http://www.acig.info/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=199&Itemid=47


    Israeli Air-to-Air Victories in 1973 PDF Print E-mail
    Contributed by ACIG Team  
    May 11, 2009 at 09:50 PM
    List of confirmed, claimed, and probable air-to-air victories scored by the Israeli pilots in October 1973  

    Last Update: 19 May, 2003
    Date Unit Aircraft Crew Weapon Victim Unit/Nation
    6Oct73 ?? Sqn F-4E M.Melnik/I.Amitai ? AS-5 EAF
    6Oct73 ?? Sqn F-4E M.Melnik/I.Amitai ? AS-5 EAF
    6Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ 59 E.Carmi 30mm AS-5 EAF
    6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Nahumi AIM-9D MiG-17F 201AW/EAF
    6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Nahumi 20mm MiG-17F 201AW/EAF
    6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Nahumi AIM-9D MiG-17F 201AW/EAF
    6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Nahumi AIM-9D MiG-17F 201AW/EAF
    6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E D.Shaki AIM-9D MiG-17F 201AW/EAF
    6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E D.Shaki AIM-9D MiG-17F 201AW/EAF
    6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E D.Shaki AIM-9D MiG-17F 201AW/EAF
    6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E D.Shaki maneuver MiG-17F 201AW/EAF
    6Oct73 1?? Sqn Mirage IIICJ Y.Nir Shafrir Mk.2 Su-7BMK 223AW/EAF
    6Oct73 1?? Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Harish Shafrir Mk.2 Su-7BMK 223AW/EAF
    6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S Y.Keidar Shafrir Mk.2 Su-7BMK EAF
    6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S Y.Keidar 30mm Su-7BMK EAF
    6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S A.Y.Shavit ? Su-7BMK EAF
    6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S M.Sharon 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S M.Sharon Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-17F EAF
    6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S A.Ben-Nun ? MiG-21 EAF
    6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S O.Marom ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    6Oct73 201 Sqn F-4E S.Egozi/R.Manof AIM-9D Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 201 Sqn F-4E S.Egozi/R.Manof AIM-9D Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 201 Sqn F-4E S.Egozi/R.Manof AIM-9D Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 201 Sqn F-4E S.Egozi/R.Manof 20mm Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 201 Sqn F-4E S.Egozi/R.Manof AIM-9D Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E D.Yoffe/? AIM-9D+20mm Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E D.Yoffe/? jetwash Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E B-A.Peri/I.Amitai AIM-9D Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E B-A.Peri/I.Amitai AIM-9D Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E B-A.Peri/I.Amitai 20mm Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E B-A.Peri/I.Amitai ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E E.Peled/?? ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E E.Peled/?? ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher A.Gilad ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher A.Gilad ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E ? ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E ? ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E ? ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E ? ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E ? ? Mi-8 ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 201 Sqn F-4E ? ? MiG-17F ?AW/EAF
    6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S A.Ben-Nun ? MiG-21 EAF
    6Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S M.Shmul ? MiG-21 EAF
    7Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E R.Goren 30mm Mi-8 EAF
    7Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ O.Marom 30mm Su-7BMK 5Sqn/IrAF
    7Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ E.Carmi ? MiG-21 EAF
    7Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ O.Marom ? Hunter F.Mk.59 702Sqn/IrAF
    7Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Lapidot ? MiG-21 EAF
    7Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E Z.Raz ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    7Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E J.Feldschuh ? MiG-21 EAF
    7Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ T.Vered ? MiG-21 9Sqn/IrAF
    7Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher Y.Kheidar? Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 EAF
    7Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher Y.Kheidar? Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 EAF
    7Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E ??/?? ? Su-7BMK QJJ
    8Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher S D.Sever Shafrir Mk.2 Su-7BMK EAF
    8Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher S M.Hertz 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    8Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher M.Hertz ? MiG-21* EAF (shared)
    8Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher E.Carmi ? MiG-21* EAF (shared)
    8Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher E.Carmi ? MiG-21 EAF
    8Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Dagan ? MiG-17 SyAAF
    8Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher Y.Geva 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
    8Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher E.Yiari AIM-9D MiG-21 SyAAF
    8Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher A.Ben-Nun ? MiG-21 EAF
    8Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher A.Cohen Shafrir Mk.2 Su-20 EAF
    8Oct73 113 Sqn Mirage IIICJ M.Katz Shafrir Mk.2 Su-7BMK EAF
    8Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher A.Lanir ? MiG-17 SyAAF
    8Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher A.Lanir ? MiG-17 SyAAF
    8Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E E.Ben-Eliyahu ? MiG-21 EAF
    8Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Shalmon AIM-9D Hunter F.Mk.59 702Sqn/IrAF
    8Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Shalmon 30mm Hunter F.Mk.59 702Sqn/IrAF
    8Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ 58 O.Marom 30mm Hunter F.Mk.59 702Sqn/IrAF
    8Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ 58 O.Marom ? MiG-17 SyAAF
    9Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Harish ? MiG-17 SyAAF
    9Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Harish ? MiG-17 SyAAF
    9Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ T.Vered 30mm Mi-8 SyAAF
    9Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ K.Richter 30mm Mi-8 SyAAF
    9Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ O.Marom ? ? SyAAF
    9Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E G.Regev/E.Shmueli ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    9Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage/Nesher ? ? Hunter F.Mk.59 702Sqn/IrAF
    9Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage/Nesher ? ? MiG-21PF 9Sqn/IrAF
    9Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage/Nesher ? ? MiG-21PF 9Sqn/IrAF
    10Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E Y.Spector ? MiG-21 EAF
    10Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E O.Afek/Z.Zeevi ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    10Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E N.Maimon/O.Polig ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    10Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher D.Tavor ? MiG-21 EAF
    10Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher ? ? Su-7 EAF
    10Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher ? ? Su-7 EAF
    10Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher ? ? Su-7 EAF
    10Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher ? ? Su-7 EAF
    10Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher ? ? Su-7 EAF
    10Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher ? ? Su-7 EAF
    10Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher ? ? Su-7 EAF
    10Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ Y.Koren 30mm MiG-17 SyAAF
    10Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ I.Baharav ? MiG-17 SyAAF
    11Oct73 69 Sqn F-4E ??/?? ? MiG-21 EAF
    11Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E ??/?? 30mm MiG SyAAF
    11Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Rokach ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    11Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Rokach 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
    12Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher S.Levi Shafrir Mk.2 Su-7BMK 54Sqn/SyAAF
    12Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher S.Levi Shafrir Mk.2 Su-7BMK 54Sqn/SyAAF
    12Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher S.Levi 30mm Su-7BMK 54Sqn/SyAAF
    12Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Rokach 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
    12Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Rokach 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
    12Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ 58 A.Lanir 30mm MiG-17 SyAAF
    12Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Sion ? Su-7BMK 54Sqn/SyAAF
    13Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E D.Halutz/?? 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    13Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Nahumi/?? ? MiG-21PF 9Sqn/IrAF
    13Oct73 69 Sqn F-4E ??/?? ? MiG-21PF 9Sqn/IrAF
    13Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ Y.Koren ? Hunter F.Mk.59 702Sqn/IrAF
    13Oct73 117 Sqn Mirage IIICJ Y.Koren ? Su-7BMK 5Sqn/IrAF
    13Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage ? ? Su-7BMK 5Sqn/IrAF
    13Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage ? ? Su-7BMK 5Sqn/IrAF
    13Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher M.Hertz Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21MF 17Sqn/IrAF
    13Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher ? ? MiG-21MF 17Sqn/IrAF
    13Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher ? ? MiG-21PF 9Sqn/IrAF
    13Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher ? ? MiG-21PF 9Sqn/IrAF
    13Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Lanir ? MiG-17 SyAAF
    13Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E N.Maimon/I.Raz ? MiG-21 EAF
    13Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E N.Maimon/I.Raz 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    14Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E E.Ben-Eliyahu 20mm MiG-21MF 104AW/EAF
    14Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Nahumi AIM-9D MiG-21MF 104AW/EAF
    14Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Nahumi 20mm MiG-21MF 104AW/EAF
    14Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher A.Ben-Nun 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    14Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher U.Aven-Nir ? MiG-21 EAF
    14Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E Y.Spector 20mm MiG-21 EAF
    15Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E Y.Spector 20mm MiG-21 EAF
    15Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Snir/A.Katz 20mm MiG-21 EAF
    15Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher Y.Sela ? F-4E IDF/AF
    16Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ H.Bodinger ? MiG-17 SyAAF
    16Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher S.Levi ? MiG-17 EAF
    16Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher S.Levi ? MiG-17 EAF
    16Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher ?? ? MiG-17 EAF
    16Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher ?? ? MiG-17 EAF
    16Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher A.Cohen ? MiG-17 EAF
    16Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher A.Cohen ? MiG-21* EAF (shared)
    16Oct73 114 Sqn Nesher ?? ? MiG-21* EAF (shared)
    16Oct73 114 Sqn Nesher A.Cohen ? MiG-21 EAF
    16Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ Y.Koren ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    16Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Sever 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
    17Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher M.Hertz 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
    17Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Harish ? MiG-17 EAF
    17Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Harish ? MiG-21 EAF
    17Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Harish ? MiG-21 EAF
    17Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E M.Melnik/E.Lior ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    17Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E M.Melnik/E.Lior ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    17Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E A.Snir/C.Katz ? MiG-21* SyAAF (shared)
    17Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E M.Melnik/ ? MiG-21* SyAAF (shared)
    17Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ 58 M.Tzuk ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    18Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher S.Levi Shafrir Mirage 5D EAF/LARAF
    18Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher ? maneuver Mirage 5D EAF/LARAF
    18Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher ? ? Mirage 5D EAF/LARAF
    18Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ D.Harish ? MiG-21 EAF
    18Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher G.Aven 30mm Mi-8 EAF
    18Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ M.Tzuk 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    18Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ G.Livni 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    19Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher M.Hertz ? MiG-17 EAF
    19Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher M.Hertz ? MiG-17 EAF
    19Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher M.Hertz ? MiG-17 EAF
    19Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher 61 G.Aven AIM-9D Su-7BMK EAF
    19Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher 61 G.Aven Shafrir Mk.2 Su-7BMK EAF
    19Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher 61 G.Aven ? Su-20 EAF
    19Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher 61 G.Aven ? Su-20 EAF
    19Oct73 ??? Sqn ?? U.Aven-Nir ? MiG-21 EAF
    19Oct73 ??? Sqn ?? U.Aven-Nir ? MiG-21 EAF
    20Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher G.Aven Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 EAF
    20Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher G.Aven Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 EAF
    20Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher G.Aven 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    20Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher G.Aven 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    20Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher Y.Geva 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    21Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E D.Halutz/Y.Gal ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    21Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E N.Merchavi/?? ? MiG-21 EAF
    21Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher Harry 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    21Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher S.Levi Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 EAF
    21Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher S.Levi Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 EAF
    21Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher Y.Geva ? MiG-21 EAF
    21Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ U.Even-Nir 30mm Mirage 5D EAF/LARAF
    22Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher Avik ? MiG-21 EAF
    22Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher S.Lahat ? MiG-21 EAF
    22Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher S.Lahat ? MiG-21 EAF
    22Oct73 ??? Sqn Nesher Sari ? MiG-21 EAF
    22Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher G.Livni ? MiG-17 EAF
    22Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher G.Livni ? MiG-17 EAF
    22Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ M.Tzuk ? L-29 EAF
    22Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher S.Levi Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 SyAAF
    22Oct73 113 Sqn Nesher S.Levi Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 SyAAF
    22Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ E.Carmi 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
    23Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ H.Bodinger 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    23Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ H.Bodinger 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    23Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ G.Livni ? MiG-21 EAF
    23Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ H.Bodinger 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    23Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ I.Baharav 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    23Oct73 ??? Sqn F-4E Y.Stavi ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    23Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E D.Halutz/Y.Gal ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    23Oct73 119 Sqn F-4E D.Halutz/Y.Gal 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
    23Oct73 107 Sqn F-4E A.Nahumi/?? 30mm MiG-21 SyAAF
    23Oct73 144 Sqn Nesher A.Cohen 30mm MiG-17 EAF
    24Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIIBJ 86 G.Aven AIM-9D MiG-21 EAF
    24Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIIBJ 86 G.Aven AIM-9D MiG-21 EAF
    24Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIIBJ 86 G.Aven 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    24Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher I.Baharav 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    24Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher I.Baharav 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    24Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ E.Carmi ? MiG-21 EAF
    24Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ E.Carmi ? MiG-21 EAF
    24Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ E.Carmi ? MiG-21 EAF
    24Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ I.Gonen Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21 EAF
    24Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ I.Gonen 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    24Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ S.Gordon ? Su-7BMK 223AW/EAF
    24Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Shalmon ? MiG-21 EAF
    24Oct73 1?? Sqn Mirage IIICJ A.Eschchar 30mm MiG-21 EAF
    24Oct73 ??? Sqn Mirage IIICJ M.Tzuk ? MiG-21 EAF
    24Oct73 101 Sqn Nesher 11 E.Ye’ari ? MiG-21* EAF (shared)
    24Oct73 101 Sqn Mirage IIICJ 51 D.Sever ? MiG-21* EAF (shared)

    Confirmed entries are in GREEN
    New entries are in RED
    Corrected entries are in YELLOW
    Fratricide entries are in LIGHT BLUE
    Claims and unconfirmed entries are in WHITE
    Damaged and Close Calls entries are in VIOLET
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    Post  nemrod Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:11 pm









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    Israeli Air-to-Air Victories since 1974 PDF Print E-mail
    Contributed by ACIG Team
    May 11, 2009 at 10:07 PM
    List of confirmed, claimed, and probable air-to-air victories scored by the Israeli pilots since 1974


    Last Update: 9 February 2014
    Date Unit Aircraft Pilot Weapon Victim Country
    19Apr74 Mirage IIICJ 58 A. Shalmon Shafrir Mk.2 MiG-21F-13 67Sqn/SyAAF
    19Apr74 Mirage IIICJ 58 A.Shalmon 30mm MiG-21 67Sqn/SyAAF
    29Apr74 F-4E AIM-7F MiG-21 SyAF
    29Apr74 F-4E 101 AIM-7F MiG-21 SyAAF
    29Apr74 F-4E AIM-9D MiG-21 SyAF
    29Apr74 F-4E AIM-9D MiG-21 SyAF
    27Jun79 133 Sqn F-15A M.Melnik AIM-9 MiG-21MF SyAAF (shared)
    27Jun79 133 Sqn F-15A E.Ben-Eliyahu 20mm MiG-21MF SyAAF
    27Jun79 133 Sqn F-15A Y.Fladshow AIM-7F MiG-21MF SyAAF
    27Jun79 133 Sqn F-15A Y.Peled AIM-9 MiG-21MF SyAAF
    27Jun79 101 Sqn Kfir C.2 Eshel Shafrir-II MiG-21MF SyAAF (shared)
    27Jun79 133 Sqn F-15A G.Golan AIM-9 MiG-21MF SyAAF (shared)
    24Sep79 133 Sqn F-15A 659 ? AIM-9 MiG-21MF SyAAF
    24Sep79 133 Sqn F-15A 692 ? 20mm MiG-21MF SyAAF
    24Sep79 133 Sqn F-15A MiG-21 SyAAF
    24Sep79 133 Sqn F-15A MiG-21 SyAAF
    24Aug80 133 Sqn F-15A MiG-21 SyAAF
    24Aug80 133 Sqn F-15A MiG-21 SyAAF
    31Dec80 133 Sqn F-15 Y. Peled AIM-7F MiG-21 SyAAF
    31Dec80 133 Sqn F-15 MiG-21 SyAAF
    4Jan81 119 Sqn F-4E(S) 498 G.Sheffer Maneuver MiG-21MF 84FS/IrAF
    13Feb81 133 Sqn F-15 B.Zinker AIM-7F MiG-25PD 1FS/SyAAF
    28Apr81 117 Sqn F-16A 112 Rafi 20mm Mi-8 SyAAF
    28Apr81 117 Sqn F-16A Z.Raz or D. Yoffe AIM-9L Mi-8 SyAAF
    28Apr81 110 Sqn F-16A Z.Raz or D. Yoffe AGM-65 Mi-8 SyAAF
    14May81 200 Sqn IAI Scout UAV Maneuver MiG-21MF SyAAF
    14Jul81 110 Sqn F-16A 219 A. Nahumi AIM-9P MiG-21 SyAAF
    29Jul81 133 Sqn F-15A AIM-7F MiG-25PD 1FS/SyAAF
    20Apr82 133 sqn F-15A MiG-23BN SyAF
    20Apr82 133 sqn F-15A MiG-23BN SyAF
    25May82 133 sqn F-15 AIM-7F MiG-21 SyAF
    25May82 133 sqn F-15 AIM-7F MiG-21 SyAF
    26May82 117 sqn F-16 Z.Raz AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAF
    26May82 117 sqn F-16 Z.Raz AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAF
    26May82 117 sqn F-16 AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAF
    6Jun82 133 sqn F-15A AIM-7F MiG-23MS SyAF
    7Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A 658 O.Lapidot Python-3 MiG-23 SyAAF
    7Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A 646 ? ? MiG-23 SyAAF
    7Jun82 F-16 MiG-23MF SyAF
    8Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 Y. Peled AIM-7F MiG-21 SyAAF
    8Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 Y. Peled Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
    8Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 MiG-23 SyAF
    8Jun82 F-16 MiG-23BN SyAF
    8Jun82 F-16 Python-3 MiG-23BN SyAF
    8Jun82 F-16 Python-3 MiG-23BN SyAAF
    8Jun82 F-16 Python-3 MiG-23BN SyAAF
    8Jun82 F-16 20mm MiG-21 SyAAF
    8Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 AIM-9L MiG-23BN SyAAF
    9Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A 646 "R" AIM-9L MiG-23MF SyAAF
    9Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A 646 "R" manoeuver MiG-21MF SyAAF
    9Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A 646 "R" manoeuver MiG-21MF SyAAF
    9Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 Y. Peled Python-3 MiG-21 SyAAF
    9Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A 695 MiG-21 SyAAF
    9Jun82 133 sqn F-15 "R" AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAF
    9Jun82 133 sqn F-15 MiG-21 SyAF
    9Jun82 133 sqn F-15 MiG-21 SyAF
    9Jun82 133 sqn F-15 MiG-23 SyAF
    9Jun82 133 sqn F-15 MiG-23 SyAF
    9Jun82 133 sqn F-15 MiG-23 SyAF
    9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAAF
    9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAAF
    9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAAF
    9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAAF
    9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAAF
    9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? AIM-9L MiG-21 SyAAF
    9Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A A.Nahumi Python-III MiG-2? SyAAF
    9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A Z.Raz AAM MiG-2? SyAAF
    9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? ? MiG-2? SyAAF
    9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? ? MiG-2? SyAAF
    9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? ? MiG-2? SyAAF
    9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? ? MiG-2? SyAAF
    9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? ? MiG-2? SyAAF
    9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? ? MiG-2? SyAAF
    9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A ? ? MiG-2? SyAAF
    9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A E.Shkedi AIM-9L MiG-2? SyAAF
    9Jun82 11? Sqn F-16A E.Shkedi AIM-9L MiG-2? SyAAF (shared)
    10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 "F" MiG-21 SyAAF
    10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 Y.Fladshow MiG-21 SyAAF
    10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 X ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 X ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 X ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 X ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 Y.Peled AIM-7F MiG-23 SyAAF
    10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 Y.Peled AIM-7F MiG-23 SyAAF
    10Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 ? AIM-9L SA.342 SyAAF
    10Jun82 ? Sqn F-16A ? Python-III SA.342 SyAAF
    10Jun82 ? Sqn F-16A ? Python-III SA.342 SyAAF
    10Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A A.Nahumi Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
    10Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A A.Nahumi Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
    10Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A ? Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
    10Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A ? Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
    10Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A ? Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
    10Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A ? Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
    10Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A ? Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
    10Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A Ethan AIM-9L MiG-23MF SyAAF
    10Jun82 105 Sqn F-4E Ben-Ami Peri Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
    11Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A 658 O.Lapidot Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
    11Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A 646 ? ? MiG-21 SyAAF
    11Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 ? AIM-7F MiG-23 SyAAF
    11Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 ? AIM-7F MiG-23 SyAAF
    11Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 ? 20mm MiG-21 SyAAF
    11Jun82 133 Sqn F-15 ? 20mm MiG-21 SyAAF
    11Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A ? Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
    11Jun82 110 Sqn F-16A ? Python-III MiG-21 SyAAF
    11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A 258 Rafi 20mm MiG-23MS SyAAF
    11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A 258 Rafi 20mm MiG-23MS SyAAF
    11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A 258 Rafi 20mm MiG-21bis SyAAF
    11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A ? 20mm MiG-21bis SyAAF
    11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A 107 Ethan AIM-9L MiG-23BN SyAAF
    11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A ? AIM-9L MiG-23BN SyAAF
    11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A ? AIM-9L MiG-23BN SyAAF
    11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A 107 Ethan AIM-9L MiG-23BN SyAAF
    11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A 107 Ethan 20mm Su-22M-2K SyAAF
    11Jun82 117 Sqn F-16A 107 Ethan AIM-9L SA.342M Gazelle SyAAF
    24Jun82 F-16A Python-III MiG-23BN SyAF
    24Jun82 F-16A Python-III MiG-23BN SyAAF
    25Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A MiG-23MF SyAAF
    25Jun82 133 Sqn F-15A MiG-23MF SyAAF
    2Jul82 133 Sqn F-15C ? AAM MiG-21bis SyAAF
    2Jul82 133 Sqn F-15C ? AAM MiG-21bis SyAAF
    31Aug82 133 Sqn F-15 MiG-25RB SyAAF
    20Nov85 106 Sqn F-15D 957 N. Ronen MiG-23ML SyAAF
    20Nov85 106 Sqn F-15D 957 N. Ronen MiG-23ML SyAAF
    2Jun89 106 Sqn F-15C ? AAM MiG-29A 697FS/SyAAF
    2Jun89 106 Sqn F-15C ? AAM MiG-29A 697FS/SyAAF
    24May01 127 Sqn AH-64 Hellfire Cessna Civilian
    14Sep01 106 Sqn F-15C ? Python-IV MiG-29A SyAAF
    14Sep01 106 Sqn F-15C ? AIM-9M MiG-29A SyAAF
    7Aug06 110 Sqn F-16C 364 ? Python-V Misrad-1 (Ababil 3) UAV Hezbollah
    13Aug06 109 Sqn F-16D 074 ? Python-V Misrad-1 (Ababil 3) UAV Hezbollah
    16Dec10 ? F-16 ? ? baloon ?
    Nov11 ? F-16 ? ? Seeker UAV Hezbollah
    06Oct12 201 Sqn F-16I 844 ? 2 x Python-V UAV Hezbollah
    25Apr13 117 Sqn F-16 C ? Python-V UAV Hezbollah

    Credits:

    'Israeli Fighter Aces' Peter B. Mersky Specialtypress 1997

    *Shared kill

    Notes:

    14 May 81: The Syrian MiG-21 tried to tip the UAV with it's wing but stalled out and crashed
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    Post  nemrod Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:13 pm

    You could notice that most the egyptian air to air victories was du to the exceptional and very effective Mig-21.


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    Egyptian Air-to-Air Victories since 1948 PDF Print E-mail
    Contributed by ACIG Team  
    Feb 20, 2008 at 12:03 PM
    List of confirmed, claimed, and probable air-to-air victories scored by the Egyptian pilots since 1948

    Last Update: 11 August, 2004

    Date Unit Aircraft Pilot Weapon Victim Air Force
    22May48 1 sqn Spitfire LF.9   20mm Dakota RAF
    4Jun48 1 sqn Hawker Fury Abu Zayd 20mm Argus IDF/AF
    7Jun48 1 sqn Hawker Fury Abu Zayd 20mm Auster J-1 IDF/AF
    25Jun48 6 sqn Spitfire V   Forced land Auster UN
    9Jul48 3 sqn Lysender M.Miqati Maneuver Avia S-199 IDF/AF
    16Oct48 1 sqn Spitfire V   20mm Avia S-199 IDF/AF
    16Oct48 1 sqn Spitfire V   20mm Avia S-199 IDF/AF
    19Oct48 1 sqn Hawker Fury Abu Zayd 20mm Beaufighter IDF/AF**
    28Dec48 1 sqn Spitfire LF.9   20mm Piper Cub IDF/AF
    28Dec48 1 sqn Spitfire   20mm Avia S-199 IDF/AF
    28Dec48 1 sqn Spitfire   20mm Spitfire IDF/AF** (Dam)
    30Dec48 2 sqn Macchi MC205V   20mm Fighter IDF/AF*
    30Dec48 2 sqn Macchi MC205V   20mm Fighter IDF/AF*
    7Jan49 2 sqn Macchi MC205V   20mm P-51D IDF/AF*
    30Oct56 1 sqn MiG-15   23/37mm Piper Cub IDF/AF
    30Oct56 1 sqn MiG-15   Manoeuver Meteor 117 sqn IDF/AF
    30Oct56 1 sqn MiG-17   23/37mm Mystere IVA IDF/AF** (Dam)
    30Oct56 1 sqn MiG-17   23/37mm Mystere IVA IDF/AF**
    30Oct56 1 sqn MiG-17   23/37mm Mystere IVA IDF/AF*
    31Oct56 1 sqn MiG-15   23/37mm Ouragan IDF/AF*
    31Oct56 1 sqn MiG-15   23/37mm Ouragan IDF/AF** (Dam)
    31Oct56 1 sqn MiG-15 F.al-Ghazzavi 23/37mm Ouragan IDF/AF**
    31Oct56 10 Sqn Meteor NF.Mk.13 CO 10 Sqn EAF 30mm Valiant RAF (evaded)
    1Nov56 ? Sqn MiG-15 ? 23/37mm Canberra Pr.Mk.7 WH801 RAF (dam.)
    3Nov56 5 Sqn? Meteor F.Mk.4 or 8 ?   30mm F-4U Corsair 14F Aéronavale
    4Nov59   MiG-17F   Maneuver SMB.2 IDF/AF
    14Feb60   MiG-17F   23/37mm Mystére IVA IDF/AF
    Nov65 2 sqn MiG-17F N.al-Masri 23/37mm Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged)
    5Jun67   MiG-21PF   R-3S SMB.2 105Sqn IDF/AF
    5Jun67   MiG-21PF A.Hamdi R-3S SMB.2 105Sqn IDF/AF
    5Jun67 42 or 45 Sqn MiG-21PF A.M.Mursi R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    5Jun67 42 or 45 Sqn MiG-21PF A.M.Mursi R-3S Mirage IIICJ ?Sqn IDF/AF
    5Jun67       Fuel Starvation Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    5Jun67   MiG-21PF N.Shoukry R-3S Mirage IIICJ ?Sqn/IDF/AF (Neuman KIA)
    5Jun67 20/21 Sqn MiG-19S F.Selim 30mm Noratlas 103Sqn IDF/AF
    5Jun67 20/21 Sqn MiG-19S A.R.Sidki 30mm Noratlas 103Sqn IDF/AF
    5Jun67 UARAF SAM SA-2 - S-75 MiG-21 42 or 45Sqn/UARAF
    6Jun67   MiG-21FL A.Nasr S-5K 57mm rockets SMB.2 IDF/AF
    6Jun67 55 Sqn Su-7B Khamis 30mm Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    6Jun67   Su-7B   30mm S-58 IDF/AF (forced down)
    6Jun67   Su-7B   R-3S S-58 124Sqn/IDF/AF (forced down)
    6Jun67 SyAAF MiG-19S Fathi 30mm Nordatlas 103Sqn/IDF/AF
    7Jun67   MiG-17F   30mm SMB.2 105Sqn/IDF/AF (pilot Shochat)
    8Jun67   MiG-17F     SMB.2 105Sqn/IDF/AF
    8Jun67   MiG-21   fuel starvation Mirage IIICJ ?Sqn/IDF/AF (Poraz OK)
    5Jul67   MiG-21F-13     Mirage IDF/AF (damaged)
    5Jul67   MiG-21F-13     Mirage IDF/AF (damaged)
    15Jul67 Big Sqn MiG-21F-13   R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (Egozi OK)
    3Apr68   MiG-21FL Wafai R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged)
    23Oct68   MiG-21PF     Mirage IDF/AF
    23Oct68   MiG-21PF     Mirage IDF/AF
    23Oct68   MiG-21PF     Mirage IDF/AF
    3Nov68 26Sqn MiG-21PF S.Marei R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (pilot?)
    3Mar69 ?Sqn MiG-21PF ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged?)
    8Mar69 ?Sqn MiG-21PF ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged?)
    2Apr69   MiG-21FL   R-3S SMB.2 IDF/AF
    14Apr69   MiG-21PF S.A.Mikhail R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged; pilot Rozen)
    19May69   MiG-19 A.Rami 30mm Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (pilot?)
    22May69 25Sqn MiG-21PF Mani R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (pilot?)
    26Jun69   MiG-21FL Abdallah R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    30Jun69 102AB MiG-21PFS T.F.A.Allah R-3S Mirage IIICJ ?Sqn/IDF/AF
    30Jun69 26 Sqn MiG-21F-13 ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ ?Sqn/IDF/AF
    30Jun69 26 Sqn MiG-21F-13 ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ ?Sqn/IDF/AF
    20Jul69   MiG-21FL ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ 45 117Sqn/IDF/AF (Zohar)
    20Jul69   MiG-21FL   R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (Ben-Eliyahu OK)
    19Aug69   MiG-21FL ? R-3S A-4E IDF/AF
    11Sep69 104AB MiG-21PFM S.A.Mikhail R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (pilot Weintraub)
    11Sep69 104AB MiG-21PFM F.Salama R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (pilot G.Rom)
    11Sep69 104AB MiG-21FL Ghema R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (pilot Roun)
    9Dec69   MiG-21F-13 A.Atif R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    9Dec69   MiG-21 ? R-3S Mirage IDF/AF
    9Dec69   MiG-21 ? R-3S Mirage IDF/AF
    8Feb70   MiG-21PFS   R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    9Feb70   MiG-21PFS Urfan R-3S Mirage IIICJ 57 IDF/AF (Keldes PoW)
    9Feb70   MiG-21PFS Ismail R-3S Mirage IDF/AF
    2Mar70   MiG-21? ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ 70 117Sqn/IDF/AF (Neuner OK)
    18Apr70 135AR MiG-21MF K.Korotyuk R-3S RF-4E IDF/AF **
    8Jun70 ? MiG-21MF F.el-Ashmawy R-3S F-4E IDF/AF (Note 1)
    8Jun70 ? MiG-21MF Rauf el-Din R-3S F-4E IDF/AF (Note 1)
    8Jun70 135AR MiG-21 Oleg Tsoy R-3S F-4E IDF/AF (Note 1)
    8Jun70 135AR MiG-21 Oleg Tsoy R-3S F-4E IDF/AF (Note 1)
    20Jun70   MiG-21MF ? 3xR-3S A-4E IDF/AF
    22Jun70 135AR MiG-21MF Salmikov R-3S A-4E IDF/AF*
    27Jun70 ? MiG-21MF ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    23Jul70 135IAP MiG-21MF Salmikov R-3S A-4E IDF/AF (damaged)
    30Jul70 135IAP MiG-21MF Ivlev R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged)
    7Aug70 135IAP MiG-21MF Oleg Tsoy R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    4Nov71   MiG-21MF ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ 34 101Sqn/IDF/AF
    14Nov71   MiG-21MF ? R-3S Mirage IIICJ 41 101Sqn/IDF/AF
    13Jun72   MiG-21MF   R-3S RF-4E IDF/AF (damaged)
    6Oct73   MiG-17F ? 23/37mm F-4E IDF/AF*
    6Oct73   MiG-21     Nesher IDF/AF*
    7Oct73   MiG-17F ?   Bell 205 IDF/AF*
    7Oct73 104AB MiG-21MF K.al-Hamid   F-4E IDF/AF
    7Oct73 104AB MiG-21MF     F-4E IDF/AF
    7Oct73   MiG-21   R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    7Oct73   MiG-21   R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
    7Oct73   MiG-21MF ? 23mm A-4E IDF/AF
    8Oct73   MiG-21MF   R-3S Nesher S '93' IDF/AF (Karmi OK)
    8Oct73 SyAAF MiG-17F M. F. al-Jindi 23/37mm A-4E IDF/AF
    8Oct73 SyAAF MiG-17F M. F. al-Jindi 23/37mm A-4E IDF/AF
    8Oct73   MiG-21MF ? 2xR-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    11Oct73   MiG-21MF   R-3S/23mm F-4E 673 (68-0525) 201Sqn/IDF/AF (Ophir/Cohen KIA)
    11Oct73   MiG-21MF   23mm F-4E 640 (68-0456) 201Sqn/IDF/AF (Hayon/Arad PoW)
    11Oct73 45Sqn/104AB MiG-21PFS M.el-Malt R-3S or 23mm (gunpod) Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    14Oct73 104AB MiG-21MF N.Mussa 23mm F-4E IDF/AF
    14Oct73   MiG-21MF K.el-Hamid 23mm F-4E IDF/AF
    14Oct73   MiG-21MF A.Y.el-Wakeel 23mm F-4E IDF/AF
    14Oct73   MiG-21MF M.Adoub 23mm F-4E IDF/AF
    16Oct73   MiG-21     F-4E IDF/AF
    16Oct73   MiG-17F     Nesher IDF/AF (Kashtan KIA)
    17Oct73   MiG-21MF Wafai 23mm Nesher IDF/AF
    17Oct73   MiG-21MF   R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
    17Oct73   MiG-21MF   R-3S Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF
    17Oct73   MiG-21PF ? 23mm (gunpod) Do.27 IDF/AF
    17Oct73   MiG-?   ? F-4E 620 201Sqn/IDF/AF (Samok/Golan)
    18Oct73   MiG-17F   Explosion Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (Note 2)
    18Oct73   MiG-21MF ? R-3S+23mm F-4E 616 or 635 201Sqn/IDF/AF
    20Oct73   MiG-21     Nesher IDF/AF (Katz OK)
    21Oct73   MiG-21FL K.al-Hamid 23mm F-4E IDF/AF
    21Oct73 102AB MiG-21MF N.Shoukry 23mm Nesher IDF/AF
    21Oct73 102AB MiG-21MF ? ? Mirage/Nesher IDF/AF
    21Oct73 102AB MiG-21MF ? ? Mirage/Nesher IDF/AF
    21Oct73 102AB MiG-21MF ? ? Mirage/Nesher IDF/AF
    21Oct73 102AB MiG-21MF D.el-Hefnawy ? Mirage/Nesher IDF/AF (Sheffer OK)
    22Oct73 104AB MiG-21MF A.Wafai 23mm Nesher IDF/AF
    22Oct73 104AB MiG-21MF A.Wafai R-3S Nesher IDF/AF
    23Oct73   MiG-21     Mirage IIICJ IDF/AF (damaged)
    23Oct73   MiG-21F-13 A.Atif 30mm F-4E IDF/AF
    ?Oct73   MiG-21MF Alaa Eddin R-3S F-4E IDF/AF
    21Jul77 104AB MiG-21MF S.Mohammed   MiG-23MS LARAF
    22Jul77   MiG-21     Mi-8 LARAF
    22Jul77           LARAF
    22Jul77           LARAF
    Nov79 104 FR MiG-21MF S.Mohammed AIM-9P MiG-23MS LARAF

    Notes:

    Note 1: the loss of two F-4E Phantoms on 8 June 1970 was credited to two EAF MiG-21 pilots by inofficial Israeli sources; according to official Israeli records not a single F-4E Phantom II was lost in the month of June 1970. Also, no pilots with given names are known within the Egyptian Air Force.

    Note 2: Egyptian plane exploded in front of the Mirage IIICJ, forcing the Israeli pilot to land in Refidim.

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    Post  nemrod Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:13 am

    Well, I was very reluctant to put israelis figures in these topic about Middle east air war. If indeed in the case of war most of the armies used to lie. USSR lies, Poland lies, France lies, Nazis lied, and obviously West, and uncommunly US lies, and especially, and chieftly Israel.
    Why does Israel understate its losses, and overstate its wins as this scale ? Because it is a vital question. Israel, as prefabricate state from nothing, they will have to attract reluctant jews to emigrate into Israel. They will have to prove them that they are the best.
    During the war of 1948, and 1973 Israel was on verge to disapear, to save this state US was directly commited, chieftly in 1973 where US pilots participated in the air war, as in land war. US -as Israel- threatened to use nuclear weapons against Egypt and Syria. In the other hand, soviet participated directly too in the war. Some soviets troops were captured in the golan by israelis, as syrians and egyptians downed and killed several US pilots.
    On of the biggest hoax in the history of these last 60 years occured in 1982, when Israel asserted that they downed about 100 syrian Migs vs 0 losses, however, the facts in the fields contradicted completly this stupid claims. Nevertheless, this claim was supported by most western medias who are in close jewish-zionist control. I grew up with this false claim, and untill recently I still believed it. However, many clues in the fields contradicts the israelis assertions. At first, when you say that you downed x..aircrafts, you will have to provide the proofs. For example wreckages. However, untill now, Israel provided wreckages of only a few Mig-23, far from the 80 they claimed to have downed. Without significant proofs, we are obliged to believe what Israelis said.
    In this link
    http://www.acig.info/CMS/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=207&Itemid=47
    It explained a few disturbing facts that significantly contracdicted what the israelis bragged. For example, after the so-called victory when they were supposed to wiped out of map nearly 100 syrians Migs, and destroyed all the sam, hence having the total control of the lebanese sky , how could they explain these following facts ?
    - syrian helicopters could destroy with a total impunity several dozen israelis tanks and armored vehicles.
    - syrian fighter-bombers -SU-22 and Mig-23 BN- continued to bomb israelis infantery destroying several dozens, if not hundreds armored vehicles.
    - several battles of tanks occured between israelis Merkava, M-60, M-48, against syrian T-55, T-62, T-72. It was even said the T-62 was very efficient. Efficient under a so-called total israelis control of lebanese sky ?
    - Why did not the Israelis reach the Beyrut-Damascus highway ? As it was one of the main purpose of the war. The main purpose was to expell syrian army out of Lebanon too.

    The syrian force in Lebanon was 30.000 troops, against nearly 80.000 israelis. 2 syrians division against 5 israelis divisions.

    In fact Vladimir illyin -russian historian. The question is why should I believe a russian historian ? Well, why should I believe Tom Cooper ? Yefim Gordon ? Is a westerners necessarily more honnest and more intelligent than a russian, or non westerner ?- explained during this war of Lebanon -syrian announced a completed stupid figure too clamiming they downed more than 70 israelis aircrafts. This figure was contradicted by the facts in the field- Syria lost about 50, Israel about 45. Israel was slightly ahead allowing to expell Fatah out of Lebanon, but far to be enough to expell syrian army from Lebanon as it was programmed.
    The war of Lebanon is symptomatic of usual western lie about the war. It was a mix between truth and large part of lie. Far to be outdated, outclassed -as I believed during longtime- the soviet hardware prove again it was very very effective and still redoutable.
    We can do the same analysis about 1973 war, and we reached the same conclusion, the Mig-21 was largely better than the Phantom II, and the Mirage III. No use to tell more about 1967, it was surprise attack, as every surprise attack it is a complete successufull. It could have the exact same result if Mexico attacks every US airfields. Let's recall about Pearl Harboor, or Barbarbarossa against Soviet Union.

    If you have other clues, and other analysis It would be interresting to share with me. Please do not hesitate.
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    Post  starman Sun Dec 11, 2016 4:03 pm

    nemrod wrote:
    During the war of 1948, and 1973 Israel was on verge to disapear,

    I sympathize with the arabs but this is a wild exaggeration. In '73, Egyptian and Syrian forces advanced only about 10km or so. They couldn't even recapture their lost territory let alone eliminate Israel.


    For example, after the so-called victory when they were supposed to wiped out of map nearly 100 syrians Migs, and destroyed all the sam,  hence having the total control of the lebanese sky , how could they explain these following facts ?
    - syrian helicopters could destroy with a total impunity several dozen israelis tanks and armored vehicles.

    They flew below radar coverage before using pop up tactics.


    - syrian fighter-bombers -SU-22 and Mig-23 BN- continued to bomb israelis infantery destroying several dozens, if not hundreds armored vehicles.
    - several battles of tanks occured between israelis Merkava, M-60, M-48, against syrian T-55, T-62, T-72. It was even said the T-62 was very efficient. Efficient under a so-called total israelis control of lebanese sky ?

    Pollack wrote, in Arabs at War the Israeli airforce was so busy knocking down MIGs it couldn't do much bombing or strafing of ground forces.


    The syrian force in Lebanon was 30.000 troops, against nearly 80.000 israelis. 2 syrians division against 5 israelis divisions.

    The defection of Egypt from the arab coalition against Israel cost Syria dearly.
    By the way, if you're interested in alternate history scenarios, including one in which Egypt returned to the arab fold in the 1980s, and fought against Israel again, see this blog:

    http://starvisions.blogspot.com/


    This figure was contradicted by the facts in the field- Syria lost about 50, Israel about 45.

    Says who?


    We can do the same analysis about 1973 war, and we reached the same conclusion, the Mig-21 was largely better than the Phantom II, and the Mirage III.

    Not according to the ARAB MIGs Volumes 5 and 6. Illustrations and figures clearly show how far ahead the F-4 and Mirage were.

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