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    Post  Hole Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:02 pm

    The reason why the production of Icebreakers runs rather smoothly compared to some warships: they were always build in yards around St. Petersburg (Leningrad), most of the suppliers (for all the small and large machines and systems that turn a pile of metal into a ship) are also located there. They continued working. A lot of the stuff for warships were made in some currently Nazi-occupied regions in the south-west of Russia ( Wink).

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    Post  kvs Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:20 pm

    The industrial supply chains were severely disrupted by the breakup of the USSR.   A lot of people think that such facts are little details
    and whine about how Russia is failing.   If economic development was so trivial there would be no 3rd world countries.   Russia has managed
    to make titanic advances since 1999 when Putin came in and prevented consolidation of a comprador oligarchy loyal to the NATzO west.

    By contrast, Ukraine with all of its Soviet legacy, which was massive, flushed it all down the toilet and nobody is whinging how Ukraine
    is a total comprador failure.   Selling off its black soil and women.   If Russia succeeds in regime change in Ukraine, it will actually benefit
    Ukrainians, even the ones that hate Russia, greatly.   But given how they keep trying to crawl up NATzO's ass, they will likely get another
    comprador regime down the line which will keep selling them down the river.

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    Post  Arrow Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:32 pm

    Hole wrote:The reason why the production of Icebreakers runs rather smoothly compared to some warships: they were always build in yards around St. Petersburg (Leningrad), most of the suppliers (for all the small and large machines and systems that turn a pile of metal into a ship) are also located there. They continued working. A lot of the stuff for warships were made in some currently Nazi-occupied regions in the south-west of Russia ( Wink).

    But the giant Lider is being built in the new Zvezda shipyard complex. We'll see how they go about building these giants. Zvezda is very good at handling the new LNG carriers, so they will probably cope with the new icebreaker. Even the USSR did not build such large ships. Unless we take the unfinished aircraft carrier Ulyanovsk Very Happy
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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Nov 08, 2022 5:38 pm

    Arrow wrote:
    Hole wrote:The reason why the production of Icebreakers runs rather smoothly compared to some warships: they were always build in yards around St. Petersburg (Leningrad), most of the suppliers (for all the small and large machines and systems that turn a pile of metal into a ship) are also located there. They continued working. A lot of the stuff for warships were made in some currently Nazi-occupied regions in the south-west of Russia ( Wink).

    But the giant Lider is being built in the new Zvezda shipyard complex. We'll see how they go about building these giants. Zvezda is very good at handling the new LNG carriers, so they will probably cope with the new icebreaker. Even the USSR did not build such large ships. Unless we take the unfinished aircraft carrier Ulyanovsk Very Happy



    The Russians plan to have 3 huge project 10510 icebreakers by 2033.
    If the Russians a little late and it's until 2035 or 2036, it won't be a big deal, because by 2030 the Russians could have 7 "small" 22220 nuclear icebreakers.
    I don't believe that Zvezda will have problems with the "Rossiya" ship because it is like any other ship, you need to cut a section of steel and weld it with another section of steel and then put everything together and weld it into one unit.
    The Russians have perfected the construction of Project 22220 nuclear icebreakers and all that is needed for Project 10510 is everything double; the mass of the ship and the power of the nuclear reactors.

    Baltic and Zvezda shipyards...
    The Baltic shipyard is building the fourth and fifth icebreaker of project 22220. The fourth icebreaker "Yakutia" is under construction from May 26, 2020, and the fifth "Chukotka" from December 16, 2020. This means that both ships will be launched in the next year and a half. The Russians are planning two more icebreakers of this project, namely the 6th and 7th. After that, the Baltic Shipyard could be completely free for the construction of military ships.
    It is my expectation that military shipbuilding will be launched in the Baltic Shipyard by 2027/28 at the latest. And Zvezda is supposed to build nuclear icebreakers of project 22220 until 2033, and it is Zvezda that could be the one to build aircraft carriers - if Russia decides to build them.

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    Post  Hole Tue Nov 08, 2022 5:50 pm

    Arrow wrote:But the giant Lider is being built in the new Zvezda shipyard complex. We'll see how they go about building these giants. Zvezda is very good at handling the new LNG carriers, so they will probably cope with the new icebreaker. Even the USSR did not build such large ships. Unless we take the unfinished aircraft carrier Ulyanovsk Very Happy
    The supply chain is there. They just need to send the stuff to the Far East. With warships there are suppliers that were/are outside the current borders or changed their production lines to civilian stuff and have to be coerced back to produce some military grade gear.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Nov 08, 2022 5:55 pm

    New news has just arrived....  thumbsup

    Project 22220 nuclear icebreaker Yakutia to be launched on November 18


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    Nuclear-powered icebreaker "Yakutia". Photo: Media deck

    On November 18, 2022, the Baltic Shipyard in St. Petersburg will launch the third serial nuclear-powered icebreaker Yakutia of project 22220.

    The godmother of the nuclear-powered ship was Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Victoria Abramchenko. Among the guests of honor on the descent, the presence of representatives of the Government of the Russian Federation, the Government of St. Petersburg, the General Director of the State Corporation "Rosatom" A.E. Likhachev, the General Director of JSC "OSK" A.L. Rakhmanov is expected.

    The third serial universal nuclear icebreaker "Yakutia" is the fourth ship of project 22220, built at the Baltic Shipyard by order of the State Corporation "Rosatom". The nuclear-powered ship was laid down on the slipway of the plant on May 26, 2020.

    https://paluba.media/news/38218

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    Post  Arrow Tue Nov 08, 2022 6:30 pm

    Zvezda that could be the one to build aircraft carriers - if Russia decides to build them. LIKE2 wrote:

    Or the new super shipyard they are planning in St. Petersburg will be another huge investment in the shipbuilding industry.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Nov 08, 2022 6:46 pm

    Arrow wrote:

    Or the new super shipyard they are planning in St. Petersburg will be another huge investment in the shipbuilding industry.


    Severnaya Werf; Two slipways 240 m long and 50 m wide will be built.

    This would mean that Severnaya will be able to build ships of the displacement and size of Project 1144 cruisers or very large landing ships.
    After all, the front section of a larger ship (with a total displacement of over 30,000 tons), for example an aircraft carrier, could be built in Severnaya Werf and the rear part of the ship in the Baltic shipyard.
    However, the Baltic Shipyard has already built huge project 1144 cruisers and is currently building the second largest nuclear icebreakers - since Zvezda is building the largest nuclear icebreaker "Rossiya".
    However, I rather believe that the Russians will give the job to Zvezda or Sevmash shipyard for aircraft carriers. Sevmash will have a lot of free space when the construction of strategic submarines of project 955A stops.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Nov 09, 2022 5:03 am

    The fact that they now have options is very good, and moving forward I suspect their new destroyer and cruiser designs will be nuclear powered... I was a little disappointed that they didn't think to make their new 40Kt helicopter landing ships nuclear powered too... it would add operational range and take away speed restrictions, and free up fuel storage space for fuel for helicopters and drones and aircraft as well as armoured vehicles to be used by the troops they carry.

    One of the criticisms of the Mistrals by the Russians was that the propulsion system was localised on one space, which, if hit, would completely immobilise the ship.

    So they wanted separate power plants that were not located together for better survivability.

    Their new carriers will likely be electric drive ships, which means the power generation becomes like batteries and can be placed almost anywhere in the ship and don't have to be in line with the screws with enormous heavy drive shafts... in fact a half dozen or more propeller pods could be used for high speed and amazing manouver performance without the need for tugs in tight places.

    NPP could be designed so they can pop off an outer plate or flap and put them in and wire them up like batteries...

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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:08 pm

    November 16, 11:23 am
    updated November 16, 12:29

    The newest nuclear icebreaker "Ural" of project 22220 will be handed over to "Atomflot"


    The signing of the acceptance certificate will take place on November 29


    MURMANSK, 16 November. /TASS/. The second serial nuclear-powered icebreaker of project 22220 "Ural", which is being built at the "Baltiysky Zavod" by order of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "Atomflot", will be at the disposal of the enterprise at the end of November. This was announced on Wednesday by the Acting Director General of Atomflot, Leonid Irlitsa, during the strategic session "Implementation of NSR infrastructure projects under sanctions pressure," which is taking place in Murmansk.

    "On the 22nd of [November], the Baltic Shipyard will launch the Yakutia, and at the same time there will be preparations for the launch of the Ural icebreaker, and at the end of the month we expect it to enter the ranks of our enterprise," - said Irlitsa.

    As follows from the data of his presentation, the signing of the acceptance certificate of the Ural icebreaker by Atomflot is scheduled for November 29.

    Konstantin Stasyuk, deputy director of the Northern Sea Route (NSR) Projects Implementation Department - Head of the NSR Infrastructure Development Department of the Rosatom State Corporation, added that the construction of two more serial icebreakers is currently underway: Yakutia, due date - 2024, Chukotka - 2026. At the same time, the localization of the construction of these icebreakers is 96%. "The executor of these orders - the Baltic Shipyard - has been under Western sanctions since 2014, all issues related to this have been worked out. Of course, the tightening of sanctions had an effect, there were disruptions in the supply of equipment [during the construction of the Ural]], foreign partners refused even those "Ural" has passed sea trials, and on November 23 it will go to Murmansk," he concluded.

    The universal nuclear icebreaker "Ural" is the third vessel of project 22220. Its laying ceremony took place on July 25, 2016. The Ural was launched on May 26, 2019. The godmother of the icebreaker was the chairman of the Central Bank of Russia, Elvira Nabiullina. In October, the press service of the Baltic Shipyard (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation, USC) reported that the Ural had begun sea trials.

    Project 22220 universal nuclear icebreakers are the largest and most powerful icebreakers in the world. Their main task is to provide year-round navigation in the Western region of the Arctic. The vessels of this project in the coming years should become the backbone of Russia's civilian icebreaking fleet.

    On the development of the Northern Sea Route and the icebreaker fleet


    The plan for the development of the NSR was approved until 2035. It is planned to allocate 1.8 trillion rubles from various sources for its implementation. Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin stated that Russia owns and builds modern icebreakers for the further development of the NSR as a powerful transport artery of national and global importance with year-round navigation. The head of the Russian Ministry for the Development of the Far East, Alexei Chekunkov, said that the construction of six more icebreakers is necessary to ensure a cargo flow of 200 million tons by 2030 along the Northern Sea Route.

    The Northern Sea Route is the shortest water route between the European part of Russia and the Far East. The length of the route from the Kara Gate to Providence Bay is about 5.6 thousand km. At the same time, it is completely located in the territorial waters and the exclusive economic zone of Russia, which is especially important in the face of external sanctions pressure, when the logistics supply chains of products are disrupted.

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    Today, a new icebreaker was laid down at VSSZ (Vyborg shipyard) - head. No. 510 project 21900M2 (14,000 tons). The name has not yet been announced.


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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:23 am

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    November 22nd, 10:59 pm
    Commissioning of the nuclear icebreaker "Ural" and launching of the nuclear icebreaker "Yakutia"

    On November 22, 2022, in St. Petersburg, JSC Baltiysky Zavod (part of JSC United Shipbuilding Corporation - USC) held the ceremony of raising the State Flag on the third built universal nuclear icebreaker of project 22220 (LK-60Ya) Ural (building number 05708) and the launch of the fourth project 22220 Yakutia nuclear-powered icebreaker under construction (building number 05709). President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin took part in both ceremonies via videoconferencing.

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    Nuclear-powered icebreaker "Ural" (building number 05708) of project 22220 (LK-60Ya) put into operation at JSC "Baltiysky Zavod". St. Petersburg, 11/22/2022 (c) sudostroenie.info

    The ceremonies at the Baltic Shipyard were attended by Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Viktoria Abramchenko, Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation - Minister of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation Denis Manturov, Chairman of the Board of Directors of the United Shipbuilding Corporation Georgy Poltavchenko, General Director of Rosatom State Corporation Alexei Likhachev, General Director Baltic Plant Aleksey Kadilov, Acting General Director of FSUE Atomflot Leonid Irlitsa.
    During the ceremony, Denis Manturov said that before the end of the year, Rosatom should conclude a contract with the Baltic Shipyard for the construction of two more nuclear-powered icebreakers of project 22220.

    From the side of bmpd, we point out that the Ural is the third built nuclear icebreaker of project 22220 (LK-60Ya). Its construction was carried out under a contract signed on May 29, 2014 by Baltiysky Zavod - Shipbuilding LLC with the state corporation Rosatom for the construction of two serial nuclear-powered icebreakers of project 22220 (LK-60Ya) for FSUE Atomflot with a total cost of 84.4 billion rubles. The first icebreaker under this contract (and the second in the series) Sibir (building number 05707) was laid down at the Baltic Shipyard on May 26, 2015, launched on September 22, 2017 and put into operation on December 24, 2021.

    The laying of the next icebreaker under this contract "Ural" (building number 05708) was carried out at the Baltic Shipyard on July 25, 2016. The launch was made on May 25, 2019, and on October 14, 2022, the Ural entered factory sea trials.

    Earlier, the Baltic Shipyard built the lead universal nuclear icebreaker Arktika (building number 05706) of project 22220 (LK-60Ya) under a contract worth 36.959 billion rubles with the state corporation Rosatom for FSUE Atomflot concluded on August 20, 2012. The lead icebreaker Arktika was laid down on November 5, 2013, launched on June 16, 2016, entered factory sea trials on December 12, 2019, and the acceptance certificate of the Arktika icebreaker was signed on October 21, 2020 in Murmansk.

    The developer of project 22220 is PJSC Iceberg Central Design Bureau. Project 22220 icebreakers are equipped with a new type RITM-200 two-reactor nuclear power plant with a capacity of 60 MW on shafts developed by OKBM Afrikantov and are the largest and most powerful icebreakers in the world. The length of the icebreaker of this project is 173.3 meters, width - 34 meters, draft at the design waterline - 10.5 meters, minimum working draft - 8.55 meters. The displacement is 33.54 thousand tons.

    According to the terms of the contracts, the construction of the lead icebreaker Arktika was to be completed by December 30, 2017, the icebreaker Sibir in December 2019, and the third icebreaker Ural in December 2020. However, later, as a result, the deadlines for the commissioning of the icebreakers Sibir and Ural were postponed, and in fact serial ships are delivered with a delay of two years.

    In August 2019, JSC Baltiysky Zavod received a contract worth about 100 billion rubles for the construction of the fourth and fifth universal nuclear icebreakers of project 22220 (LK-60Ya). The commissioning of the icebreakers, which have been named Yakutia and Chukotka, is scheduled for 2024 and 2026.
    The nuclear icebreaker Yakutia (building number 05709) under this contract was laid down at JSC Baltiysky Zavod on May 26, 2020, and is now launched, and the nuclear icebreaker Chukotka (building number 05712) was laid down there on December 16, 2020 .

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    Launching of the nuclear icebreaker Yakutia (building number 05709) of project 22220 (LK-60Ya) under construction at Baltiysky Zavod JSC. St. Petersburg, 11/22/2022 (c) paluba.media

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4615966.html

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    Post  Arrow Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:17 pm

    The nuclear icebreaker program is progressing at an impressive pace. Only two years had passed from the keel being laid to the launch of the last Yakutia. Another one is under construction, another two are to lay the keel. In addition, a huge leader is also under construction Shocked

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