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    Post  medo Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:01 pm

    mack8 wrote:Tens of pics of the newest SMs:
    http://wizarden.livejournal.com/102407.html

    And bmpd article "8 Su-30SM in one day":
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1739216.html

    Finally, a new export variant called Su-30SME has been unveiled at Singapore Air Show.
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    It's interesting, that they show export variant called Su-30SME. Looks like Su-30MKI/MKM with fully Russian equipment without French or Israeli components.
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    Post  medo Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:18 pm

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    One of the last Su-30M2 b/n 90.
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    Post  George1 Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:22 pm

    More Su-30SMs (8 till now) are expected this year for BSF

    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/2714640&usg=ALkJrhgHxFA0944jNCeUOd2A27XFx-UMJA


    Russia to Replace All Su-24's With Su-30SM's in Black Sea Fleet by 2020


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160303/1035707898/crimea-su-30sm-su-24.html#ixzz41qVUlTJW
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    Post  AlfaT8 Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:47 pm

    George1 wrote:Russia to Replace All Su-24's With Su-30SM's in Black Sea Fleet by 2020[/b]

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160303/1035707898/crimea-su-30sm-su-24.html#ixzz41qVUlTJW

    How odd, wouldn't the SU-34 be the proper replacement, i get that the SU-30SM is a good all-rounder, but does it have the much vaunted SVP-24 targeting system??
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    Post  medo Thu Mar 03, 2016 5:54 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    George1 wrote:Russia to Replace All Su-24's With Su-30SM's in Black Sea Fleet by 2020[/b]

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160303/1035707898/crimea-su-30sm-su-24.html#ixzz41qVUlTJW

    How odd, wouldn't the SU-34 be the proper replacement, i get that the SU-30SM is a good all-rounder, but does it have the much vaunted SVP-24 targeting system??

    No, Su-30SM is better as it will replace both Su-24 and Su-27 in RuNAVY. Su-30SM doesn't have SVP-24 as it is upgrade kit, but its Fire Control Complex with GLONASS satnav is same capable in using free fall bombs from high altitude as SVP-24. In anti-ship role Su-30SM is no worse than Su-34, but in air combat it is far better.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:42 pm

    medo wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:
    George1 wrote:Russia to Replace All Su-24's With Su-30SM's in Black Sea Fleet by 2020[/b]

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160303/1035707898/crimea-su-30sm-su-24.html#ixzz41qVUlTJW

    How odd, wouldn't the SU-34 be the proper replacement, i get that the SU-30SM is a good all-rounder, but does it have the much vaunted SVP-24 targeting system??

    No, Su-30SM is better as it will replace both Su-24 and Su-27 in RuNAVY. Su-30SM doesn't have SVP-24 as it is upgrade kit, but its Fire Control Complex with GLONASS satnav is same capable in using free fall bombs from high altitude as SVP-24. In anti-ship role Su-30SM is no worse than Su-34, but in air combat it is far better.

    Well by the time they arrive in Navy they should switch to guided munitions anyway. Dumb bombs would be used up by then and Naval Aviation is more likely to use anti-ship missiles rather than bombs. Those are for the VKS.
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    Post  medo Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:42 pm

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    New 80 and 90 Su-30M2 in Krymsk air base.
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    Post  George1 Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:40 pm

    RuAF pilots of Krymsk a/base learn new Su-30M2 fighters that replace old Su-27s

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    Post  azw Tue Mar 08, 2016 6:36 pm

    is wikipedia source is accurate about the number of plane russian has and is all su-27 in soviet era still in service?

    and how you guy differentiate between su-27/30/35 because if i'm not mistake all come from the same t-10 airframe.
    i cannot see the difference especially su-27 and su-35 except for su-30/sm/mki/mkm because they had canard.

    and from wiki su-30sm is derivative from mkm/mki with all russian made avionic.
    compared to SME and MKI/MKM any major improvement especially targeting pod? I read somewhere before that russian very bad in thermal imaging..that why India and Malaysia use France version.
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    Post  medo Tue Mar 08, 2016 7:37 pm

    azw wrote:is wikipedia source is accurate about the number of plane russian has and is all su-27 in soviet era still in service?
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    and how you guy differentiate between su-27/30/35 because if i'm not mistake all come from the same t-10 airframe.
    i cannot see the difference especially su-27 and su-35 except for su-30/sm/mki/mkm because they had canard.

    and from wiki su-30sm is derivative from mkm/mki with all russian made avionic.
    compared to SME and MKI/MKM any major improvement especially targeting pod? I read somewhere before that russian very bad in thermal imaging..that why India and Malaysia use France version.

    The most easy way to differentiate Su-30 and Su-35 from Su-27 variants is by twin nose wheel and IFR probe on Su-30 variants and Su-35. Su-27 have single nose wheel and doesn't have IFR capabilities. Su-30SM also have canards and Su-30SM and Su-35 have engines with TVC. Su-30 was developed from twin seater Su-27UB and Su-35 was developed from single seater Su-27.

    Su-30SM is domestic fully Russian version for RuAF and RuNAVY of Su-30MKI/MKM, made by Irkut. Malaysia use French equipment, India use Israeli equipment and Israeli Litening targeting pod. Russia for now doesn't use targeting pods, but one is in testings with MiG-35/29M. Most probably this pod will also be installed on Su-30 and Su-35 fighters.
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    Post  azw Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:06 pm

    thanks...but well, russia fighter really confusing Razz
    and I thought Russia had used targeting pod for their aircraft bcos i see some photo of russia su-30 with targeting pod. but i dont know if those targeting pod was russian made or license produce of france thales.

    and sorry if post are not related to RuAF acquisition of this plane..
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    Post  Book. Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:34 pm

    azw wrote:thanks...but well, russia fighter really confusing Razz
    and I thought Russia had used targeting pod for their aircraft bcos i see some photo of russia su-30 with targeting pod. but i dont know if those targeting pod was russian made or license produce of france thales.

    and sorry if post are not related to RuAF acquisition of this plane..

    Ru can build EO pod
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    Ru IRST work like EO pod. Su 27/30
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    Ru Su-34 LTPS Plantan EO pod
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    Ru Mig 29 T220 EO pod
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    Ok have fun the RD!  cheers  russia
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    Post  George1 Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:53 pm

    Flying High: Russian Aerospace Forces to Get Over 30 Su-30SM Fighter Jets

    The Russian Aerospace Forces will be reinforced by more than 30 multirole Su-30SM fighter jets, according to a new contract.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The Russian Defense Ministry and the Irkut aircraft manufacturer have signed a contract to supply over 30 multipurpose Sukhoi Su-30SM fighter jets to the Russian Aerospace Forces by the end of 2018, the ministry's press service said in a statement Sunday.

    "The Russian Defense Ministry and the Irkut Corporation have signed a contract to supply multipurpose Su-30SM fighters to the Russian Aerospace Forces… According to the terms of the contract, over 30 multipurpose Su-30SM fighters will be delivered [to the Russian Aerospace Forces] by the end of 2018," the statement said.

    The contract for the supply was signed by Russian Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov and President of Irkut Corporation Oleg Demchenko.

    The Su-30SM is a 4++ generation fighter jet, developed by Russia's Sukhoi Aviation Holding Company.

    It is a two-seat derivative of the earlier Su-27UB (NATO reporting name: Flanker) capable of air-to-air and air-to-ground missions with a wide variety of precision-guided munitions. The aircraft features thrust-vectoring engines to enhance maneuverability.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20160403/1037402311/su-30-russian-aerospace-forces-video.html#ixzz44lA8laz3
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    Post  franco Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:55 pm

    Contract signed for another 30+ Su-30SM's before end of 2018. Not the 60-75 that was talked about.

    http://tass.ru/en/defense/866841
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    Post  sepheronx Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:23 pm

    Is this an additional 30+ to the 60-75 or did they cut order? Or do you think they will order another 30-35 later for 2020?
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    Post  franco Sun Apr 03, 2016 3:07 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Is this an additional 30+ to the 60-75 or did they cut order? Or do you think they will order another 30-35 later for 2020?

    Cut a new order, there never was an order for 60-75 just that they would be doing so by 2020. This order is through 2018 so another order for 2019 and 2020 could still come.
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    Post  medo Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:27 pm

    There is a little catch here in 30+ and it is a +. We do not know, how much more than 30 this could be. I would also expect, that soon will follow another contract like the first two contracts, where the second contract follow quite quickly after the first for the first 60 fighters.
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    Post  franco Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:35 pm

    medo wrote:There is a little catch here in 30+ and it is a +. We do not know, how much more than 30 this could be. I would also expect, that soon will follow another contract like the first two contracts, where the second contract follow quite quickly after the first for the first 60 fighters.

    Agreed and suspect the 30+ = 36 aircraft or 3 squadrons.
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    Post  mack8 Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:32 pm

    According to bmpd, this contract is indeed for 36 Su-30SM, bringing the totals to 96 for VKS and 20 for VMF, of which 56 and 8 respectively are already delivered (hope i got that right).
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1828574.html
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    Post  George1 Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:15 am

    mack8 wrote:According to bmpd, this contract is indeed for 36 Su-30SM, bringing the totals to 96 for VKS and 20 for VMF, of which 56 and 8 respectively are already delivered (hope i got that right).
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1828574.html

    absolutely right. I also add the 20xSu-30M2s that have been delivered
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    Post  medo Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:02 pm

    mack8 wrote:According to bmpd, this contract is indeed for 36 Su-30SM, bringing the totals to 96 for VKS and 20 for VMF, of which 56 and 8 respectively are already delivered (hope i got that right).
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1828574.html

    I think another contract for similar number will soon follow as 36 fighters is not enough for next year production considering how many Su-30SM per year Irkut could produce. Navy will also need at least 30 more to equip two regiments in Crimea and in Kaliningrad.
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    Post  sepheronx Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:24 pm

    medo wrote:
    mack8 wrote:According to bmpd, this contract is indeed for 36 Su-30SM, bringing the totals to 96 for VKS and 20 for VMF, of which 56 and 8 respectively are already delivered (hope i got that right).
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1828574.html

    I think another contract for similar number will soon follow as 36 fighters is not enough for next year production considering how many Su-30SM per year Irkut could produce. Navy will also need at least 30 more to equip two regiments in Crimea and in Kaliningrad.

    Of course there will be. The interest is in 60-75 more aircrafts, so this is probably part 1 of a contract. I believe we seen this before.
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    Post  medo Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:58 pm

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    Two new Su-30M2 jets.
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    Post  George1 Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:22 pm

    delivered today?
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    Post  medo Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:54 pm

    George1 wrote:delivered today?

    I don't know, but this is the first picture of blue 90 and 89.

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