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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon 19 Oct 2020, 22:49

    kvs wrote:
    franco wrote: Number of prisoners in Russia hits record low

    Russia enjoys a record-low number of inmates, thanks to “humanization” of the penal code, deputy chief of the Federal Penitentiary Service (FSIN) has said, adding that the number of jailed people is expected to shrink further. Over the past few years, the number of inmates in Russia has dropped by nearly 250,000, the FSIN deputy head, Valeriy Maksimenko, told journalists on Friday.

    Currently, 467,000 people are serving jail terms, which is the lowest number in modern Russian history.

    Apart from that, some 100,000 are in pre-trial and police custody, Maksimenko added. While the figure appears to be quite big, the number of such people actually shrank two-fold, compared to six years ago.

    The decline in the number of the prisoners is the tangible result of “humanization” of Russian legislation, the official said. The number of inmates is expected to shrink further, as the authorities seek to put people behind bars only for capital offences, committed “against individual or state.”

    A new law, signed by Vladimir Putin this summer, has also contributed to the reduction of inmate numbers, according to Maksimenko. The legislation has set new rules for re-calculating time spent in pre-trial detention into jail days after sentencing. A day spent in pre-trial custody now counts as 1.5 days in jail for general security prisoners and as two days for low-security ones. For maximum and special-security prisoners, sentenced for serious and violent crimes, however, it goes day-for-day only. The new legislation has had a retroactive effect, and convicts had their jail time re-calculated according to the new rules.

    Proof that Russia is under the tyranny of Putin.

    I put forth the claim that the size of the prison population is a metric on the real political and economic freedom of a country subject to one caveat.
    That the population is not conforming to some cultural behaviour pattern like Japan and is a non-conforming type of culture like in Russia.   But even
    Japan would experience a crime wave if it underwent the economic depression that Russia experienced in the 1990s.

    The US clearly fails at being a democracy and real economic paradise.   Even it being a police state with cops shooting unarmed blacks in the back
    clearly does not act to reduce its prison population and actually increases prisoner numbers.   Russian cops and their kid gloves treatment of
    gross law violators like Navalny and his lemmings who used to block major streets even though they had demonstration permits for more sane
    venues shows that power has a certain level of respect for the population.   This power is actually trying to reduce the number of prisoners
    instead of stuff jails full of inmates to enrich their corporate buddies.  


    You do realize Russia hands out low sentences for crimes right?. You can go watch Russian prison documentaries for example where they say "Thus guy killed like three people, he will be here for 15 years".

    That statistic isn't impressive when you realize just how soft they are are handing out sentences, you have to do some REALLLLLY fucked up n Russia to get a life sentence.
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    Post  Regular Tue 20 Oct 2020, 02:04

    Yes, it's soft, yet not so different from European countries.
    Soviet Union wasn't that harsh either. Wink
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon 23 Nov 2020, 14:41


    Stupidity of commies     lol1

    Communist ‘terrorists’ arrested in Russia: detainees insist Soviet Union never collapsed, say they’re its rightful leaders

    https://www.rt.com/russia/507301-militant-marxist-group-volgograd/

    Three suspected members of a militant Marxist group have been arrested in the southern Russian city of Volgograd. But, while police say the men are “terrorists,” they claim they are the country’s rightful leaders.

    According to a statement from the district court on Thursday, one of those in custody, a 41-year-old named only as Sergey M, reportedly describes himself as “the Acting Head of all offices, without exception,” laying claim to “all pre-existing objects and subjects of law in the Volgograd Region.”

    The investigation alleges that the trio are part of the Union of Slavic Forces, a proscribed political organisation that urges its activists not to pay taxes or acknowledge the laws of Russia, which they claim is an illegitimate state. Instead, they argue that they are “citizens of the USSR.” In the past, prosecutors have brought charges against similar outfits that have promoted terrorism to achieve their radical aims.

    In May, a criminal case was brought against another communist activist in the Ural city of Kurgan. Lyubov Kudryashova was accused of justifying terrorist acts in support of the restoration of the Soviet Union, as part of her suspected involvement with an extremist group, the Movement for the Restoration of the Rights of Citizens of the USSR......

    And my favourite part:

    .....Kudryashova had previously claimed to hold high office within the Union, which she believes was never actually dissolved. In 2019, she resigned from her “powers as the head of the USSR Foreign Ministry.” The court appointed a forensic medical examiner to conduct a psychiatric evaluation of the case.

    I love how they refuse to give them even basic level of respect that these shit-stains thing they are entitled to    Razz


    Still it's always good too keep notes from Operation Condor handy just in case, this human cancer needs to be kept in check at all times  sniper


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    Post  miketheterrible Mon 23 Nov 2020, 15:11

    Hmm, flaming hasn't posted in a bit.

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    Post  kvs Mon 23 Nov 2020, 16:56

    These terrorists are not just clowns, they are NATzO agents. The same sort of shit was engaged in terrorism before 1917 in
    Russia. Dostoyevsky even wrote a book about them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demons_(Dostoevsky_novel)

    All those trying to ram "goodness" down your throat are the worst sort of scum. Russia needs to liquidate this trash without
    mercy. Before 1917 it was way too soft on them.

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    Post  Kiko Mon 23 Nov 2020, 17:09

    kvs wrote:These terrorists are not just clowns, they are NATzO agents. The same sort of shit was engaged in terrorism before 1917 in
    Russia. Dostoyevsky even wrote a book about them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demons_(Dostoevsky_novel)

    All those trying to ram "goodness" down your throat are the worst sort of scum. Russia needs to liquidate this trash without
    mercy. Before 1917 it was way too soft on them.

    19th century Russian writer Ivan Turgueniev did publish a book on these "nihilists" too: Fathers and Sons.

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon 23 Nov 2020, 18:46

    kvs wrote:These terrorists are not just clowns, they are NATzO agents.   The same sort of shit was engaged in terrorism before 1917 in
    Russia.   Dostoyevsky even wrote a book about them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demons_(Dostoevsky_novel)

    All those trying to ram "goodness" down your throat are the worst sort of scum.   Russia needs to liquidate this trash without
    mercy.   Before 1917 it was way too soft on them.


    Had St. Petersburg police just done their job back in 1917 hundreds of millions of lives would have been spared


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    Post  PhSt Tue 24 Nov 2020, 04:45



    Bill to quadruple fines for non-compliance to police during rallies in Russia if endorsed

    MOSCOW, November 23. /TASS/. Russian State Duma (parliament's lower house) deputy Dmitry Vyatkin introduced a bill that raises fines for non-compliance to the police and the National Guard during rallies.

    The bill has been published on the Duma online database Monday.

    According to the bill, repeated non-compliance with legitimate command of the police, the National Guard, the Federal Security Service (FSB), Ministry of Defense, Federal Penitentiary Service, by an organizer of a gathering, rally, demonstration, march or picketing carries an administrative fine of 10,000 to 20,000 rubles ($131-$262), or arrest for up to 30 days, or obligatory community service of up to 100 to 200 hours; officials face fines of 20,000 to 40,000 rubles ($262-$524), while companies may be fined by 70,000 to 200,000 rubles ($917-$2,622).

    Currently, this offence carries a maximum fine of 5,000 rubles ($65) for citizens, 20,000 rubles ($262) for officials and 100,000 rubles ($1,311) for companies.

    Besides, the bill raises fines for non-compliance in general. For example, initial non-compliance to the police will carry a fine of 2,000 ($26) to 4,000 rubles ($52) versus 500 ($6) to 1,000 ($13) rubles currently. Besides, the bill introduced new penalty for this offence - obligatory community services of 40 to 120 hours.

    According to Vyatkin, current fines "do not correspond to the potential gravity of the corresponding deeds."

    "Meanwhile, ignoring legitimate commands of the law enforcement, partially due to softness of current penalties, undermines the basis of control in the state, prevents the law enforcement from carrying out their duties and may entail more serious consequences, including disruption of search and investigative operations and impossibility of prevention and oversight measures, aimed at ensuring public order and security," the lawmaker said.

    Why just make it quadruple when they can make it octuple? Penalties for 5th column rodents need to be super harsh so they will live in poverty for the rest of their life Twisted Evil

    I bet uncle scumbag won't be willing to foot the bill Laughing

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    Post  Hole Tue 24 Nov 2020, 13:15

    I France the organiser of a rally is held to account if something happens.
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    Post  kvs Tue 24 Nov 2020, 16:37

    Hole wrote:I France the organiser of a rally is held to account if something happens.

    This has always been a problem in Russia. It imports western fashions but does a half-assed job in getting all the details
    that come with it. So we had this with communism and then with "democracy". For some reason Russian lawmakers think
    that $17 fines for hooliganism and trespassing are serious. The current quadrupling proposal is a stupid joke also.
    they need to have a progressive fine system starting with a 100 times the current ones and progressing to 1000 and
    10,000 times higher for repeat offenses.

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    Post  GarryB Tue 24 Nov 2020, 23:26

    More so when they are actually western stooges and not just useful idiots that will get any fines paid by the Soros foundation or the Clinton foundation.

    The fines for these offenses should be seen as an opportunity to make Russians turn on their own country more expensive... the sponsors are not doing this because they think Russia and Russians will be better off without Putin... they are doing it because they want unlimited access to Russian resources both natural and man made.... they would rather steal but they will buy if necessary and the Russian people wont see any benefit at all... these very rich western people are spending money around the world to undermine democracy everywhere so they can increase their profits and become slightly richer in the case of most small countries... but mega richer in the case of Russia.

    When western countries get oil contracts in the Russian Arctic watch all the concerns about nature and preservation disappear... despite the record of western companies in such things...

    The obvious solution is to put up with all the nagging and have Russian companies extract the oil... you should worry when the nagging and abuse stops.
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    Post  calripson Tue 24 Nov 2020, 23:40

    It is very simple: first time offense for participating in an unsanctioned political protest the equivalent of $100 fine and 30 days in jail. Second offense $1,000 fine and 90 days. Third offense $100,000 and a year in jail. If they can't pay, their assets are seized including their apartments even if owned jointly. Organizers and repeat offenders lose their citizenship and are exiled with no right of return and no ability to own assets directly or indirectly in Russia.

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