i am sure russia must be having df-21 sort of anti-aircraft carrier killer . In waters it is always about missiles vs ships not ship vs ship .
bwt i dont remember what we were talking about .
bwt i dont remember what we were talking about .
mack8 wrote:henriksoder wrote:I am courios about knowing the opportunities of Russia to invande North America from Bering Strait. I have seen that Russia got many military bases near the Bering Strait in Russia and want to discuss differents aspects and facts of a such invasion.
Russia must have Canada allied to success a such invasion, right? Becouse Russian troops need to be supported with supplies if they should make it to US. First, Russia must stabilze Canada to compete US, right? Have US much military forces in Alaska, becouse Russia can surely beat Alaska, and how is the opportunities to stabilze military zones in Canada for a Russian invasion of US? I mean, food shoulden't be any problem, but supplies to the military eqiupment should also be to be foreseen? Have Russia a strong navy enough to beat US's many carriars and submarines, it kind seems funny to seet in all Russian corvetttes to fight US navy? Can Russia stabilze antiaircraft near the Bering Strait and avoid that US take the control of the airspace and sea and win the war? If Russia can stabilze antiaircraft and control the sea at Bering Strait, it shoulden't be any problem to stabilze military bases at North America and beat US, right? Canada and Alaska, Russia beat easily, and how strong is the home US army actually? I mean they got like less then a third then Russian tanks, and many vechiles, and much more aircraft's and helicopters than Russia, Russia must take substantially all their army to beat North America? And that seems pretty illogial for Russian security.
Any other facts and opinions about a such invasion? How strong is US army amongs Russian army actually?
/Henrik
Are you serious?
henriksoder wrote:Isen't US navy stronger than Russia's? I mean US seems to have the advantage of both submarines and got like at least 10 operative carriars, and Russia like one? I mean Russia must have more corvettes if that statement should be incorrect? Becouse how can US's navy obtain a force against a Russia invasion of the Ocean Pacific in the ocean, I mean, Russia must be able to destroy US's submarines and carriars at sea, with their possible advantage of corvettes? Does anywone here know how many corvettes US got? It seems like zero, US have a equal amount of submarines, maybe a bit more than Russia and how can US use their carriars if they can't obtain a equal strong force at sea than the Russia navy? Carriars, can they just be used to set up military zones and aircraft bases? How can they obtain a military force at sea, bomb destroyers, frigates and such warships?max steel wrote:Keeping this invasion part apart . Why you think its difficult for Russia to completely destroy US navy ?
I think Russia can beat US's navy at Ocean Pacific or can control the sea at Bering strait and succes a invasion of North America, becouse even US mark force or US navy can stop an such invasion, they don't have the military capability to fight Russia's many tanks, soldiers and military vechiles on the ground? It should be if US can stabilize Russia's mark force, and take the advantage of the airspace and force Russia back, with a good coordination by the US'navy and at the same time prevent that Russia get a powerful force on the ground.
Mike E wrote:They simply cannot go to war with Russia... As a US citizen, we don't have the money, we don't have the equipment *ready*, and most importantly - the public doesn't want war, more so against Russia. The nuclear shield is more relevant than ever, and I expect it to stay that way for years to come... If the US actually goes to war with Russia (they won't), you can bet your money that there will be a bad case of coup d'etat heading towards Washington.par far wrote:We know what the war on terror is all about, hope Russia is ready. In 2016 us elections will happen and after that they will push for war.
http://edition.presstv.ir/iphone/detail.aspx?id=382723
Mike E wrote:I completely disagree... Any war with Russia, and you can expect a revolution here in the US. In fact, I doubt many troops would even fight!Werewolf wrote:Mike E wrote:They simply cannot go to war with Russia... As a US citizen, we don't have the money, we don't have the equipment *ready*, and most importantly - the public doesn't want war, more so against Russia. The nuclear shield is more relevant than ever, and I expect it to stay that way for years to come... If the US actually goes to war with Russia (they won't), you can bet your money that there will be a bad case of coup d'etat heading towards Washington.par far wrote:We know what the war on terror is all about, hope Russia is ready. In 2016 us elections will happen and after that they will push for war.
http://edition.presstv.ir/iphone/detail.aspx?id=382723
What do you think US has so many slaves for?
Like in Roman empire they will send stupid retarded slave countries to do their wars aka EU and NATO and even non NATO slaves are doing their Terrorist academies with annually thousands graduates.
WW3 is set in stone that is unavoidable.
The best way for war to be stopped or avoided, is internally, and that is how it is here in the US...
Not with nuclear weapons it isn't. People have been predicting WW3 ever since WW2, and guess what?
BTRfan wrote:henriksoder wrote:Isen't US navy stronger than Russia's? I mean US seems to have the advantage of both submarines and got like at least 10 operative carriars, and Russia like one? I mean Russia must have more corvettes if that statement should be incorrect? Becouse how can US's navy obtain a force against a Russia invasion of the Ocean Pacific in the ocean, I mean, Russia must be able to destroy US's submarines and carriars at sea, with their possible advantage of corvettes? Does anywone here know how many corvettes US got? It seems like zero, US have a equal amount of submarines, maybe a bit more than Russia and how can US use their carriars if they can't obtain a equal strong force at sea than the Russia navy? Carriars, can they just be used to set up military zones and aircraft bases? How can they obtain a military force at sea, bomb destroyers, frigates and such warships?max steel wrote:Keeping this invasion part apart . Why you think its difficult for Russia to completely destroy US navy ?
I think Russia can beat US's navy at Ocean Pacific or can control the sea at Bering strait and succes a invasion of North America, becouse even US mark force or US navy can stop an such invasion, they don't have the military capability to fight Russia's many tanks, soldiers and military vechiles on the ground? It should be if US can stabilize Russia's mark force, and take the advantage of the airspace and force Russia back, with a good coordination by the US'navy and at the same time prevent that Russia get a powerful force on the ground.
The USA has 19 carriers commissioned [10 are fleet carriers, the rest are "helicopter carriers"], 1 in reserve, 3 under construction, and 1 more ordered/planned.
max steel wrote:BTRfan wrote:henriksoder wrote:Isen't US navy stronger than Russia's? I mean US seems to have the advantage of both submarines and got like at least 10 operative carriars, and Russia like one? I mean Russia must have more corvettes if that statement should be incorrect? Becouse how can US's navy obtain a force against a Russia invasion of the Ocean Pacific in the ocean, I mean, Russia must be able to destroy US's submarines and carriars at sea, with their possible advantage of corvettes? Does anywone here know how many corvettes US got? It seems like zero, US have a equal amount of submarines, maybe a bit more than Russia and how can US use their carriars if they can't obtain a equal strong force at sea than the Russia navy? Carriars, can they just be used to set up military zones and aircraft bases? How can they obtain a military force at sea, bomb destroyers, frigates and such warships?max steel wrote:Keeping this invasion part apart . Why you think its difficult for Russia to completely destroy US navy ?
I think Russia can beat US's navy at Ocean Pacific or can control the sea at Bering strait and succes a invasion of North America, becouse even US mark force or US navy can stop an such invasion, they don't have the military capability to fight Russia's many tanks, soldiers and military vechiles on the ground? It should be if US can stabilize Russia's mark force, and take the advantage of the airspace and force Russia back, with a good coordination by the US'navy and at the same time prevent that Russia get a powerful force on the ground.
The USA has 19 carriers commissioned [10 are fleet carriers, the rest are "helicopter carriers"], 1 in reserve, 3 under construction, and 1 more ordered/planned.
Eh? So what ? Russia has sufficeint missiles to take care of us fleet and usa leadership will be stupid if they decide to send their complete navy . US can't win against Russia near its teritory . That's the only likely scenario to happen because russians are contended with themselves meanwhile empire of chaos is itching to start a war with Russia . I'd say scratch that itch usa navy and see your ships get blown to kingdom come .
max steel wrote:You quoted me first that's why . Look it down .
max steel wrote:No BTR i didn't ask that . Read my quoted post again .
When soldiers are told to fight or else they won't get paid and they will go to prison, that is a strong motivator for fighting... In fact most of them won't even need to be told those things, they will understand those issues...
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