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    Russian-Made Crash Notification

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    Post  GarryB on Sat 26 Jan 2019, 23:16

    They came too fast Shocked altimetre was dead for sure and they had no visibility.

    A large plane like this is full of fuel when it takes off and normally takes off with way too much weight to safely land.

    Normally it is not a problem because the plane is flying somewhere and by the time it gets there it has burned off 20+ tons of fuel so it is much lighter when it tries to land.

    This aircraft tried to land without a big flight to burn off some fuel, so it was seriously over weight... which means it takes a lot more room to slow down and all the bumps on the runway incur more stress on the structure which is not designed to land at those sorts of weights.
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    Post  JohninMK on Sat 26 Jan 2019, 23:42

    Note the damage on the top of the fuselage on this Tu-22M which crashed in 2017.

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    Post  JohninMK on Sun 27 Jan 2019, 14:21

    Close examination of the Tu-22M3 crash video allows this conclusion.


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    While #Russia MoD reportedly stated the Tu-22M3 involved was not carrying weapons imagery suggests at very least an [unarmed] Kh-22 training round on port wing.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun 27 Jan 2019, 14:41

    JohninMK wrote:Close examination of the Tu-22M3 crash video allows this conclusion.


    Joseph Dempsey
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    While #Russia MoD reportedly stated the Tu-22M3 involved was not carrying weapons imagery suggests at very least an [unarmed] Kh-22 training round on port wing.

    Evidence in picture of video or is it Twatter rumor?
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    Post  JohninMK on Mon 28 Jan 2019, 00:01

    miketheterrible wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Close examination of the Tu-22M3 crash video allows this conclusion.


    Joseph Dempsey
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    While #Russia MoD reportedly stated the Tu-22M3 involved was not carrying weapons imagery suggests at very least an [unarmed] Kh-22 training round on port wing.

    Evidence in picture of video or is it Twatter rumor?
    Enlarged frames from the video at about the moment the aircraft split.

    Third post

    https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/status/1089320288553177088
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    Post  hoom on Mon 28 Jan 2019, 03:14

    Youtube of the crash (presumably same as on twitter)

    They've nearly flown into the ground, nose down with a very late flare -> still sinking too quick & broke on impact.
    Obviously horrendous visibility.
    Is it just me or ground looks lower before the runway? Could cause them to think they were higher relative to the runway than they were.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon 28 Jan 2019, 03:47

    A training round is not a weapon.
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    Post  George1 on Wed 04 Sep 2019, 13:46

    Both of Sukhoi-25UB’s pilots died in air crash on September 3

    The pilots failed to eject themselves

    MOSCOW, September 4. /TASS/. Both pilots of the Sukhoi-25UB fighter-bomber lost in the Stavropol Region on Tuesday died in the air crash, the Defense Ministry said on Wednesday.

    "The Defense Ministry’s probe on the site of the Sukhoi-25UB crash in the Stavropol Territory has confirmed the death of both pilots. They failed to eject themselves," the Defense Ministry said.

    The Sukhoi-25UB jet of Russia’s Aerospace Force crashed in the Stavropol Region on Tuesday. A source in the region’s law enforcement agencies said the crash occurred while the plane was performing a training flight. The crew failed to complete an aerobatics figure called dead loop and flew into the ground.

    The plane carried no ammunition and crashed in an unpopulated area causing no destruction on the ground.

    https://tass.com/emergencies/1076391
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    Post  Isos on Wed 25 Mar 2020, 22:56

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    Tough day for the Russian Air Force. Earlier, an L-39 trainer aircraft crashed near Krasnodar, killing the cadet pilot. Now, a Su-27 fighter disappeared over the Black Sea, and is believed to have crashed into the sea.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu 26 Mar 2020, 05:04

    And this is why you replace all these old jets.
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    Post  George1 on Thu 21 May 2020, 08:15

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