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    Post  George1 Sun May 07, 2017 1:28 am

    Thailand and China have signed a contract on the delivery of the first of three submarines that Thailand's naval forces plan to purchase from Beijing over the course of the next 11 years, media reported Friday.

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201705051053327538-bangkok-beijing-contract-submarine/
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    Post  George1 Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:37 am

    The first export Chinese aircraft JL-9 (FTC-2000 AJT) for the Sudanese Air Force

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    Post  George1 Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:29 am

    Cote d'Ivoire received a patrol boat from China

    July 7, 2017 in Abidjan (Cote d'Ivoire), a ceremony was held for the transfer of the Côte d'Ivoire to the Côte d'Ivoire of a patrol boat built in China under the assistance program and donated by the Chinese government. The cost of building the boat was 30 million yuan (4.4 million dollars).

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    Post  George1 Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:44 am

    Bangladesh buys additional Chinese combat training aircraft K-8W

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    Post  George1 Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:25 am

    Presentation of the Chinese export light fighter FTC-2000G

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    Post  George1 Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:27 am

    Export version of the new Chinese 155-mm / 52 self-propelled howitzer on the wheeled chassis

    Photographs of the new 155 mm ACS offered by Norinco for export were published.

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    Post  George1 Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:50 pm

    Chinese 122mm CS/SH1 self-propelled howitzer on a wheeled chassis in Rwanda

    On December 11, 2018, the President of Rwanda, Paul Kagame, visited the training center of the Rwandan army in Gabiro, where demonstration artillery units were fired. The photo and video materials provided by the Kagame press service captured the CS / SH1 Chinese 122-mm self-propelled howitzer on a 6x6 wheel chassis fitted with the Rwandan army, which was used by the Rwandan army. Previously, the supply of these systems in Rwanda was not reported, so Rwanda became the second well-known foreign customer for ACS CS / SH1 after Laos.

    The CS / SH1 ACS is an export version of the Chinese 122mm ACL PCL-09 manufactured by Norinco Corporation. Currently, PCL-09 SAUs are in large numbers in service with the PLA. The ACS is highly valued for maneuverability and reliability. It is equipped with a semi-automatic charging system, a fire control system including a ballistic computer and a positioning system.

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    Post  George1 Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:28 pm

    Two Chinese frigates of the project 053H3 will be transferred to the Bangladesh Navy

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    Post  George1 Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:41 pm

    Chinese frigate project 053H3 will be transferred to the Sri Lankan Navy

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    Guangzhou Huangpu Shipbuiding Company in Guangzhou is completing conversion of the former frigate Type 053H2G "Tongling" PLA Navy (side number 542) to a coast guard patrol ship for the needs of the Sri Lanka Navy (side number P 625).

    Type 053H2G frigates are a series of 4 Chinese frigates built between 1990 and 1994. A 76-mm [actually paired 100-mm] AU main caliber is installed on the ship in the nose (rate of fire 18 shots / min), followed by a HQ-61 launcher with 8 anti-aircraft missiles and two small-caliber anti-aircraft guns, a wheelhouse , on the mast, a surveillance radar of Type 360 ​​2D with a range of 150 km, behind 2 launchers with 3 RCCs YJ-82, in the rear part of the hangar for a helicopter and 2 ZAC.

    Part of the weapons from the ship dismantled.

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    Post  George1 Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:22 pm

    Twin Fighter JF-17B for Myanmar

    On Chinese web resources, a snapshot of the first JF-17B two-seat fighter built for the Myanmar Air Force, passing, as you can see, flight tests at the enterprise of the Chinese aircraft manufacturer Chengdu Aircraft Industries Company (Group) (CAC, part of the Chinese state corporation AVIC) Chengdu, Apparently, this aircraft with the Myanmar's tail number "1707", is the first serial two-seater JF-17B in general, and Myanmar will become the first recipient of the "Sparky" based on the JF-17 (in Pakistan, the prototype flight to End in April 2017, it is still in the testing phase).

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:42 pm

    Nice jet.

    I was always adamant Russia should have built this for themselves, as apparently design coincides to an apparent MiG that never was.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:30 am

    The MiG-AT has two engines which is pretty much normal for an airforce that does not operate single engine aircraft... except single engined aircraft like turboprop trainers (Yak-152/52) and light transports (An-2).

    It would not be hugely different from a single engined Yak-130 to be honest, just based on looks.

    Should point out the idea of having a light fighter trainer that can be used as a light fighter/bomber is not very sound.

    In theory is kinda makes sense, especially when you see the price of some LIFTs, but all the things that make them so cheap also make them ineffective as combat aircraft... they are designed for peacetime operations...

    If putting a big engine and a big radar was all you needed to make a fighter plane then there are much cheaper ways of doing it too...
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    Post  George1 Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:31 pm

    Gabon received Chinese VN1 armored personnel carriers

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    Post  George1 Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:31 pm

    Thailand signed a contract for the construction in China of a landing helicopter docking ship of project 071E

    On September 9, 2019, in Beijing, representatives of the Thai Navy signed a contract worth about $ 130 million with the Chinese Shipbuilding State Corporation China Shipbuilding State Corporation (CSSC) for the construction of a Project 071E helicopter docking ship for the Thai fleet. The ship will be built in Shanghai at the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard of the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipbuilding Group, part of CSSC Shanghai Shipbuilding Сompany.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:00 am

    Thai navy inks deal for LPD warship from China

    The allied RTN will be very useful to China in the SC & Andaman Seas, esp. after the Kra Canal is built.
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    Post  George1 Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:57 am

    The first submarine of the S26T project for the Thai fleet laid in China

    On September 5, 2019, in Wuhan, China, the official ceremony of laying the first large diesel engine under construction for the Thai Navy was held at the Wuchan Shipbuilding Chinese company (part of the Wuchang Shipbuilding Industry Group Co. Ltd. of the Chinese state shipbuilding corporation China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation - CSIC) -electric submarine of the Chinese export project S26T. The ceremony was attended by the Commander-in-Chief of the Thai Navy, Admiral Luchai Ruddit.

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    Post  George1 Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:52 pm

    The first Chinese VT4 tanks for Pakistan

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    Post  George1 Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:18 pm

    Inside a Chinese VN1 armored personnel carrier for Thailand

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    Post  tacticalBattalion Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:38 am

    Nigerian air force commissions JF-17 bought from China

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    Post  Sujoy Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:31 pm

    Argentina to purchase 12 JF-17 Blk-IIIs from China's CATIC (similar to how Myanmar did) for $664 million.

    https://www.aviacionline.com/2021/09/argentina-allocates-664m-for-jf-17-block-iii-purchase-in-fy2022/

    Argentina was planning to purchase the more advanced Mig-35 from Russia but backed out after U.S threatened them with CAATSA.

    U.S sanctions on Russia benefiting China the most.
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    Post  Pinto Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:31 pm

    Sujoy wrote:Argentina to purchase 12 JF-17 Blk-IIIs from China's CATIC (similar to how Myanmar did) for $664 million.

    https://www.aviacionline.com/2021/09/argentina-allocates-664m-for-jf-17-block-iii-purchase-in-fy2022/

    Argentina was planning to purchase the more advanced Mig-35 from Russia but backed out after U.S threatened them with CAATSA.

    U.S sanctions on Russia benefiting China the most.

    US has imposed filmsy sanctions on Russia which are totally unfair and do not stand as per international law but why has US not imposed sanctions on china ?

    Although time is not far when china will openly snatch orders from Russia by reverse engineering many Russian war machines including S 400
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    Post  Sujoy Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:50 pm

    Pinto wrote:but why has US not imposed sanctions on china ?
    Because their public posturing notwithstanding they are allies. Their vision for the new world order is the same. They want countries to become G-2.

    A typical G-2 state has China as its largest trading partner and America as its main Security ally.

    Pinto wrote:Although time is not far when china will openly snatch orders from Russia by reverse engineering many Russian war machines including S 400
    Possible. Chinese HQ-9 SAM is actually Russian S300V reverse engineered.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Sep 18, 2021 6:43 am


    U.S sanctions on Russia benefiting China the most.

    A bit ironic considering they want Russia to help them against China...

    But then look at the way they are treating France...

    US has imposed filmsy sanctions on Russia which are totally unfair and do not stand as per international law but why has US not imposed sanctions on china ?

    I suspect they wanted Russia to collapse and fall in to line before they did the same thing to China with Russian help...

    Most of the sanctions are about sour grapes over not winning the contract themselves... ie gas deliveries to the EU, sales of SAMs to Turkey etc etc... trying to get India to stop buying Russian stuff and buy US stuff instead...

    They can get cheap brownie points with stopping the sale of MiG-35s to Argentina with the UK, which they can use for something else...

    Although time is not far when china will openly snatch orders from Russia by reverse engineering many Russian war machines including S 400

    Every country would rather make their own military equipment, but making the best is still an issue for most countries at the highest level.

    China probably could develop rather capable S-400 copies though the models they bought wont be as good as the systems the Indians will get or that Russia itself uses, but the real critical thing as shown in Yemen... having the best stuff means little without management and planning and support that makes them effective... it is not the fighters that make HATO powerful, it is the AWACS and other systems that tell HATO pilots exactly where all the enemy aircraft are and how to approach them from behind and where to launch an attack from which has both a good chance of a kill and also a very slim chance that you will even be noticed... and of course cruise missiles taking out enemy radar so they can't do the same to you etc etc.

    Having SAMs is one thing... Saudi Arabia had lots of SAMs and air defence systems, but they had gaps in their IADS that their enemy exploited with drones and cruise missiles slipping through and destroying targets without even been seen let alone fired upon.

    Because their public posturing notwithstanding they are allies. Their vision for the new world order is the same. They want countries to become G-2.

    A typical G-2 state has China as its largest trading partner and America as its main Security ally.

    No... they don't see China as an equal, they see it as a rival that they need to crush.

    Their problem is that the powerful multinational companies that invested in production in China that made them rich and created their growth have to shift production to other countries... china makes western stuff... trying to break China without a replacement ready to go would hurt the west more than it hurt China... China has the rest of the world to sell its crap to and there are plenty of markets they are expanding in to... markets that appreciate that they don't demand law changes to allow them to crush local businesses and buy everything of value.

    The longer term plan will be to create an arms race to get China to waste a lot of money and resources on things it does not really need and if they can get India to spend billions on US military kit instead of Russian stuff then there is incentive to help build up India in the hopes that it becomes a counter to China in the same way they befriended China in the hopes of limiting the growth and influence of the Soviet Union.

    Of course China used the US too... and so now India is trying to use US China relations to get investment and development and growth, but ironically they are putting their eggs in the basket of the west and the west does not want powerful rivals and will end up trying to stifle Indian growth if you do too well like they are currently with Russia and China. India getting into bed with Russia and China on the other hand will see them being opposed by the west because taht is what the west chooses to do... prevent rivals developing. China and Russia don't care if India becomes wealthy and well developed... they would probably welcome it as long as it came with stability and open trade and good relations.

    The US just wants to smash things and feed off the chaos and wreckage...
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    Post  Sujoy Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:45 am

    If the U.S indeed considered China to be an adversary they would have imposed severe financial sanctions on them, for example blocking Chinese access to the SWIFT system thereby making it difficult for China to buy and sell dollars, euros and pound sterling.

    The U.S did no such thing. Instead, corporate America considers China to be a major market for their products and services.

    India purchases billions of dollars worth of military hardware, oil & gas from Russia. Payment for these imports have to be made in hard currency and not in rupee or rouble. If India does not keep the U.S on its side they will restrict India's access to US$.

    Even at the peak of the Cold War when the U.S was apparently fighting the communist the U.S government and the public considered China to be a friend and India to be any adversary. A sentiment captured perfectly in the book Scratches on Our Minds.

    And for those who didn't notice, the latest Hollywood superhero is a Chinese.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:13 am

    Argentina probably waS to purchase these Jets due to being dirt cheap and semi decent.  Argentina multiple times promised to buy various different weapons
    They end up not buying anything or a token number that sit idle.

    China already reversed engineered S-400 and claims it's better than it. Then their copies lost in Turkish bid. Then they themselves ended up buying S-400.  They can't reverse engineer it cause there isn't anything secret about what Russia sold them. It's the typical monkey model.

    As per what we have read - China's drones being sent back to China from UAE for being garbage, Syria's quantum radar not working as intended or barely functions, Peru MBT 2000 tank showing turret falls off, etc... I don't think China will steal much market other than dirt poor nations looking for Chinese handouts and China forcing them to buy (on credit) Chinese military goods in exchange for assistance.  And they learned this from the US.

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