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I am inclined to believe the thesis someone did these "fires" to erase the evidence of disappearance of ammunition from the depots.
All sorts of weird occurrences with regards to weapons possibly supplied to Syria from all over Europe. It cannot all be explained with Russian sabotage.

This article is about US involvement in Afghanistan. Extrapolate this to Syria.
https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/the-stoner-arms-dealers-how-two-american-kids-became-big-time-weapons-traders-176604/

Nomad5891 wrote:Anyone else waiting to see some GRU high ranking heads roll?
The spy fiasco in the Czeck Republic seems to be last drop in Putin´s cup of patience.

To blow up a warehouse in a foreign country and kill 2 of its citizens just so you prevent a weapon deal  between 3rd parties...damn this is bordering a formal war declaration. The stuff only rotten  imperealistic USA and Israel do...

Wow... you just keep on swallowing those blue pills, dontcha?

Anyone else waiting to see some GRU high ranking heads roll?

I would say medals for a job well done.

The spy fiasco in the Czeck Republic seems to be last drop in Putin´s cup of patience.

This is an unprovoked attack on Russia, they have already said it was an accident and more recently they admitted it again.

To blow up a warehouse in a foreign country and kill 2 of its citizens just so you prevent a weapon deal between 3rd parties...damn this is bordering a formal war declaration.

They are not accusing them of that though.... they admit the explosion was accidental and it wasn't the Russians.

The stuff only rotten imperealistic USA and Israel do...

Raises a good point... the EU banned Russian ships from docking in EU ports when Russia was sending support to Assads government fighting EU supported terrorists. The munitions in question were going to be sent to the Ukraine to be used on Ukrainian civilians.... sounds like fair game to me... Israel does that all the time and their proof is rarely very strong.

I am inclined to believe the thesis someone did these "fires" to erase the evidence of disappearance of ammunition from the depots.

Convincing and more likely...

Very true, one of the main reasons for this is to cut off Europe from Russia.

Navalny had better check his underpants very carefully before putting them on tomorrow morning.... he is next I suspect.

Same Bulgarian dealer that was "poisoned" with similar sympthoms as the Skripals though he survived.

I call bullshit... if any Putin opponent gets sick in any way the western media pounce on it like a tiger that hasn't eaten in two weeks would on a pile of raw meat...

Even Diabetic drug addict Navalny was claimed to have been Novachoked...

He missed to take a booked flight back to Moscow. Same way he missed to take a booked flight to Russia from UK after Skripals poisoning.

What moron on an assassination mission would book direct flights from the country he comes from to the location of his hit... zero out of ten must try harder.

At that time a good number of weapon depots in Bulgaria went up the air too.

Weapon depots explode in Russia too... can't possibly be that old weapons and ammo are dangerous... it must have been an act of war sabotage from HATO... or Obama himself or George Bush Jnr...

Call me stupid or troll but when I see so many coincidences I just stop calling them coincidences.

So you are saying multiple arms depots blew up in the Czech republic and the media said nothing for 7 years.... talk about free and open media... but you say they might have known and were protecting Russia but now big bad creepy joe is telling his attack dogs to attack... the Czech media is ignoring the story are they?

So is it possible the GRU was not invovled in stopping weapon sales to the Ucraine regime? Doubt it very much. This is very much why they exist after all.

Sounds highly likely... highly likely pulled from someones ass.

Russia is under sanction for supplying parts of the ukraine with weapons and supporting rebels, the west openly supplies Kiev a coup imposed government that eliminated all opposition and is currently shelling its own people... sounds like a cheque they can't cash... perhaps closing embassies is the solution if they want to play such juvenile games.

How about weapons and equipment found in Syria prove the west has been supporting ISIS and Al Quada, perhaps Russia should start treating the US and the EU like the terrorist supporters they are...

In my view they just did a poor job, leaving too many traces that are now actively been used by the enemy to destroy Russia's relations with the west

Took seven years for the accusations to surface and they didn't even stick to those accusations, I would say mission well done if they did it...

Of course you can't ignore the obvious incompetence too... but sabotage is easy.... intel agencies have all sorts of very long time fuses... you could get a four day fuse and open a box of explosives and put it inside and then position the box so that it will be in the middle of the pile when it is stacked for storage...

The equivalent of the western OSS making fake coal with a HE core so when thrown into a furnace it explodes... destroying the train engine.

And this is the reasons I expect a few "changes" are to be made in GRU.

Promotions at the very least... likely a lot of Ukrainians are still alive because that ammo didn't make it to the ORCs.

The whole point of a secret operation is that it will remain secret the whole time.

Only at the time.

Once it has achieved its objectives then being revealed can't make it a failure.

Else just fire a Kalibr at the depot and be done with it.

Likely plan B.