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Anyone else waiting to see some GRU high ranking heads roll?
The spy fiasco in the Czeck Republic seems to be last drop in Putin´s cup of patience.

To blow up a warehouse in a foreign country and kill 2 of its citizens just so you prevent a weapon deal  between 3rd parties...damn this is bordering a formal war declaration. The stuff only rotten  imperealistic USA and Israel do...

I am inclined to believe the thesis someone did these "fires" to erase the evidence of disappearance of ammunition from the depots.
All sorts of weird occurrences with regards to weapons possibly supplied to Syria from all over Europe. It cannot all be explained with Russian sabotage.

This article is about US involvement in Afghanistan. Extrapolate this to Syria.
https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/the-stoner-arms-dealers-how-two-american-kids-became-big-time-weapons-traders-176604/

Nomad5891 wrote:Anyone else waiting to see some GRU high ranking heads roll?
The spy fiasco in the Czeck Republic seems to be last drop in Putin´s cup of patience....

Why should GRU give a fu¢k if Czechs had to pull some circus act just to get Rosatom out of the competition for the local power plant contract?

Nomad5891 wrote:...To blow up a warehouse in a foreign country and kill 2 of its citizens just so you prevent a weapon deal  between 3rd parties...damn this is bordering a formal war declaration. The stuff only rotten  imperealistic USA and Israel do...

Someone has to be stupid enough to believe something like that first

Reminder, Czechs​ are trying to convince people that it was done by the same two guys who got blamed for Scripal clownshow in UK

When you are telling nonsense you always run the risk of going one step too far into ridiculous zone which they did right here

franco wrote:

Nomad5891 wrote:Anyone else waiting to see some GRU high ranking heads roll?
The spy fiasco in the Czeck Republic seems to be last drop in Putin´s cup of patience.

To blow up a warehouse in a foreign country and kill 2 of its citizens just so you prevent a weapon deal  between 3rd parties...damn this is bordering a formal war declaration. The stuff only rotten  imperealistic USA and Israel do...

So let's see your facts Jack:

- old ammo sold to third party to sell to Ukrainian army and Syrian rebels
- original call was a fire but when the fire department got there and saw all the ammo, they wisely backed off and called the central government
- in 2016 it was deemed negligence on the part of the third party
- so 5 years later it is Russia but they won't share their evidence
- also it was the guys who poisoned the Skripal's apparently... Russian super spys
- sounds like a Soros special...

Very true, one of the main reasons for this is to cut off Europe from Russia.

This video touches upon what is going on.

Nomad5891 wrote:Anyone else waiting to see some GRU high ranking heads roll?
The spy fiasco in the Czeck Republic seems to be last drop in Putin´s cup of patience.

To blow up a warehouse in a foreign country and kill 2 of its citizens just so you prevent a weapon deal  between 3rd parties...damn this is bordering a formal war declaration. The stuff only rotten  imperealistic USA and Israel do...

Wow... you just keep on swallowing those blue pills, dontcha?

Nomad5891 wrote:...To blow up a warehouse in a foreign country and kill 2 of its citizens just so you prevent a weapon deal  between 3rd parties...damn this is bordering a formal war declaration. The stuff only rotten  imperealistic USA and Israel do...

Someone has to be stupid enough to believe something like that first

Reminder, Czechs​ are trying to convince people that it was done by the same two guys who got blamed for Scripal clownshow in UK

When you are telling nonsense you always run the risk of going one step too far into ridiculous zone which they did right here

Well exactly, this is the point- it is so ridiculous that if Czechs or some outside Big Brother were to invent a fairytale in order to sabotage Russia-Czech/EU relations they would have gone something far more convincing and simple. Plus they would not have to go back to some 7 year old story...
My take on this story is Czechs knew it was Russians all the time but just kept quiet about it. I even can believe Russia got permission from the CZ governemnt for the operation. Now that they started to get too close with Russia (Sputnik V and Rosatom deal) a good friend from across the ocean leaked the truth and the CZ government had to play along.

The reason I tend to belive Russians were invovled is simply because in the same warehouse weapons of Bulgarian weapon dealer were stored too. Same Bulgarian dealer that was "poisoned" with similar sympthoms as the Skripals though he survived. A russian guy by the name of Fedotov who is linked to the poisoning of the Skripals visited Bulgaria at the same time he went ill. He missed to take a booked flight back to Moscow. Same way he missed to take a booked flight to Russia from UK after Skripals poisoning.
At that time a good number of weapon depots in Bulgaria went up the air too.
Call me stupid or troll but when I see so many coincidences I just stop calling them coincidences.

So is it possible the GRU was not invovled in stopping weapon sales to the Ucraine regime? Doubt it very much. This is very much why they exist after all.

In my view they just did a poor job, leaving too many traces that are now actively been used by the enemy to destroy Russia's relations with the west. And this is the reasons I expect a few "changes" are to be made in GRU. The whole point of a secret operation is that it will remain secret the whole time.
Else just fire a Kalibr at the depot and be done with it.

Anyone else waiting to see some GRU high ranking heads roll?

I would say medals for a job well done.

The spy fiasco in the Czeck Republic seems to be last drop in Putin´s cup of patience.

This is an unprovoked attack on Russia, they have already said it was an accident and more recently they admitted it again.

To blow up a warehouse in a foreign country and kill 2 of its citizens just so you prevent a weapon deal between 3rd parties...damn this is bordering a formal war declaration.

They are not accusing them of that though.... they admit the explosion was accidental and it wasn't the Russians.

The stuff only rotten imperealistic USA and Israel do...

Raises a good point... the EU banned Russian ships from docking in EU ports when Russia was sending support to Assads government fighting EU supported terrorists. The munitions in question were going to be sent to the Ukraine to be used on Ukrainian civilians.... sounds like fair game to me... Israel does that all the time and their proof is rarely very strong.

I am inclined to believe the thesis someone did these "fires" to erase the evidence of disappearance of ammunition from the depots.

Convincing and more likely...

Very true, one of the main reasons for this is to cut off Europe from Russia.

Navalny had better check his underpants very carefully before putting them on tomorrow morning.... he is next I suspect.

Same Bulgarian dealer that was "poisoned" with similar sympthoms as the Skripals though he survived.

I call bullshit... if any Putin opponent gets sick in any way the western media pounce on it like a tiger that hasn't eaten in two weeks would on a pile of raw meat...

Even Diabetic drug addict Navalny was claimed to have been Novachoked...

He missed to take a booked flight back to Moscow. Same way he missed to take a booked flight to Russia from UK after Skripals poisoning.

What moron on an assassination mission would book direct flights from the country he comes from to the location of his hit... zero out of ten must try harder.

At that time a good number of weapon depots in Bulgaria went up the air too.

Weapon depots explode in Russia too... can't possibly be that old weapons and ammo are dangerous... it must have been an act of war sabotage from HATO... or Obama himself or George Bush Jnr...

Call me stupid or troll but when I see so many coincidences I just stop calling them coincidences.

So you are saying multiple arms depots blew up in the Czech republic and the media said nothing for 7 years.... talk about free and open media... but you say they might have known and were protecting Russia but now big bad creepy joe is telling his attack dogs to attack... the Czech media is ignoring the story are they?

So is it possible the GRU was not invovled in stopping weapon sales to the Ucraine regime? Doubt it very much. This is very much why they exist after all.

Sounds highly likely... highly likely pulled from someones ass.

Russia is under sanction for supplying parts of the ukraine with weapons and supporting rebels, the west openly supplies Kiev a coup imposed government that eliminated all opposition and is currently shelling its own people... sounds like a cheque they can't cash... perhaps closing embassies is the solution if they want to play such juvenile games.

How about weapons and equipment found in Syria prove the west has been supporting ISIS and Al Quada, perhaps Russia should start treating the US and the EU like the terrorist supporters they are...

In my view they just did a poor job, leaving too many traces that are now actively been used by the enemy to destroy Russia's relations with the west

Took seven years for the accusations to surface and they didn't even stick to those accusations, I would say mission well done if they did it...

Of course you can't ignore the obvious incompetence too... but sabotage is easy.... intel agencies have all sorts of very long time fuses... you could get a four day fuse and open a box of explosives and put it inside and then position the box so that it will be in the middle of the pile when it is stacked for storage...

The equivalent of the western OSS making fake coal with a HE core so when thrown into a furnace it explodes... destroying the train engine.

And this is the reasons I expect a few "changes" are to be made in GRU.

Promotions at the very least... likely a lot of Ukrainians are still alive because that ammo didn't make it to the ORCs.

The whole point of a secret operation is that it will remain secret the whole time.

Only at the time.

Once it has achieved its objectives then being revealed can't make it a failure.

Else just fire a Kalibr at the depot and be done with it.

Likely plan B.

This Bashirov and Petrov propaganda (like Boris and Natasha) is a pathetic little smear on the Russian intelligence services. Thanks to
Putin they have become functional and are doing the essential job of protecting Russia. Back in the 1990s, Yeltsin's compardor regime
stuffed hacks like Berezovsky and Litvinenko into security positions and degraded the function of these services.

You see how effective the revival job has been in the case of Belorus. Washington and its pals were really planning on a combined
Maidan plus coup removal of the "regime". Russian intelligence services must have broken this ploy back in 2020 and helped neutralize
the coup attempt. Recall that Putin saved Erdogan from a US engineered coup as well.

I am waiting for more way post factum attribution of all sorts of incidents to Petrov and Bashirov. Because Russia only has two intelligence
agents and all they do is engage in cheesy, useless "spying".

Wasn´t Petrov in France a few weeks ago and slaped Micron in the face?

So American embassy staff with diplomatic immunity is now tasked to openly sabotaging Russian infrastructure whenever they have an opportunity.
I would suggest that embassy staff of Russia, China, Iran etc to engage in this same activity to get even with Amerislime. Starting wildfires in western us would be a good start. Any activity that would bleed America of its resources is welcome.



EDIT: I have no idea how the first video link showed something off-topic.

Don't look for conspiracy, when stupidity is an easier answer.
He was simply stealing this sign.
Maybe he will donate it to the falling apart Amtrack

I was about to type "But why?" when I noticed that it's literally the title of the video

I guess I'm not the only one who is flabbergasted...

Well, some people collect this shit. I know lots of folks who are crazy about railways. It is a possible combo here.

He already left Russia according to reports.

Pics of lovely russian women, of course.