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    Post  par far Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:01 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:https://www.stalkerzone.org/overthrow-putin-give-back-crimea-what-was-proposed-at-the-free-russia-forum/

    Obviously Russia is watching this closely, but I wonder though.

    What are the Russian authorities thinking over these people?  They obviously dont give a shit about the people of said nation and even acknowledge that their people dont get any votes in Russia.  So they made it obvious that they are more into violent protests and overthrowing.

    So with these words, shouldn't it be in Russias authorities best interest to now mark these people as Peresona non Grata and look at banning all financial transactions of these people entering Russia and that anyone caught with financial transactions from said people, would be fined heavily (all financial money given) and also face prison?

    Russia should be cracking down on these people, they maybe doing it behind hidden doors that we may not know.
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:08 pm

    par far wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:https://www.stalkerzone.org/overthrow-putin-give-back-crimea-what-was-proposed-at-the-free-russia-forum/

    Obviously Russia is watching this closely, but I wonder though.

    What are the Russian authorities thinking over these people?  They obviously dont give a shit about the people of said nation and even acknowledge that their people dont get any votes in Russia.  So they made it obvious that they are more into violent protests and overthrowing.

    So with these words, shouldn't it be in Russias authorities best interest to now mark these people as Peresona non Grata and look at banning all financial transactions of these people entering Russia and that anyone caught with financial transactions from said people, would be fined heavily (all financial money given) and also face prison?

    Russia should be cracking down on these people, they maybe doing it behind hidden doors that we may not know.

    Well, yeah. But the arrogance is so strong in these people that they post the videos themselves on youtube so everyone can see what they are scheming.

    The only thing is, about the lack of a proactive authorities in Russia. They tend to ban these people after they make an attempt. This is why it should be done before they make an attempt.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:36 pm

    Maybe the Russians are smarter than we expect... maybe the 5th columnists are actually 5th columnists and they are taking western money and just being liberal western incompetents knowing that wont appeal to most Russians.

    Essentially taking opposition money and resources and then throwing the race by being obvious... like openly saying on the internet that they don't get many votes and their most successful activities are violent protests and riots suggests they admit they are less a political group as a violent terrorist mob.

    But while they are politically insignificant they are less dangerous than some that actually might become popular... for what ever reasons...

    Just spew the rhetoric and bullshit of the west.... expose the double standards... pick the wrong battles you will never win... and keep getting funded by western idiots who don't know any better... sounds like a great trick...

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    Post  par far Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:36 pm

    "SUICIDE BOMBER TARGETS RUSSIAN FSB OFFICE, AT LEAST SIX INJURED"


    https://southfront.org/suicide-bomber-targets-russian-fsb-office-at-least-six-injured/


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    Post  kvs Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:44 pm

    par far wrote:"SUICIDE BOMBER TARGETS RUSSIAN FSB OFFICE, AT LEAST SIX INJURED"


    https://southfront.org/suicide-bomber-targets-russian-fsb-office-at-least-six-injured/



    The location says it all. Indigenous retards who drink Wahabbi koolaid are going to be a problem basically forever.
    These clowns are fighting to install poverty and theocracy and view human progress as the work of the Devil.
    They are irredeemable garbage. Attacking is always easier than defending. This is why we enjoy all that
    airport security timewaste.

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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:58 pm

    I recall reading and seeing photos of pre WWI photos of Russian soldiers in the north caucuses Muslim areas and documents stating they were fighting militants as well

    So yeah, this will be forever issue with these Muslims.
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    Post  PhSt Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:20 pm

    So yeah, this will be forever issue with these Muslims.

    This is why it is important to Christianize the population in these areas to permanently change their psyche and culture. Forceful Russification is the only way to stabilize this part of Russia. This policy will have to be implemented as well to future liberated Ukraine, Belarus, and other parts of the Soviet Union.
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    Post  franco Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:56 pm

    December 17 - Day of the formation of the Russian courier service

    A courier is called a military courier who delivers important government documents. In Russia, the courier service was founded on December 17, 1796. The corresponding decree that gave rise to this structure was issued by Emperor Paul I almost immediately after his accession to the throne. Then the duties of couriers included the delivery of orders, reports and other important documents, as well as escorting high-ranking persons.

    And even after the October Revolution, it was decided not to abolish this organization, but reorganized into the External Communications Service and gave it approximately the same functions.

    Today, the date of the establishment of the Courier Corps in our country is celebrated as the Day of Employees of the State Courier Service (SFS).

    Now this organization is considered one of the executive authorities, is directly subordinate to the President of the Russian Federation and ensures the functioning of the state courier's communications. The head of the SFS is appointed by his decree by the leader of the state.

    The state courier service is considered a paramilitary structure, therefore its employees have the right to carry and use weapons .

    Today, on this holiday for couriers, the SFS employees will be honored. Those who distinguished themselves in particular will be awarded with departmental medals, insignia and certificates of honor.

    The editorial board of Voennoye Obozreniye thanks the courier service employees for their extremely responsible service and congratulates the SFS on the day.

    Happy holiday, dear couriers!

    NOTE: the smallest and one of the least know of the Russian Security Intelligence agencies. The latest figure that I have suggests 3500 armed couriers. Keep expecting this to roll into the FSO as they control the rest of the Federal Government and Presidential Communication network.

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    Post  George1 Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:01 pm

    December 19 - Military Counterintelligence Day

    https://en.topwar.ru/178308-19-dekabrja-den-voennoj-kontrrazvedki.html
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    Post  Hole Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:21 pm

    Why is the date not secret? It´s counterintelligence, dude! lol!
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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:47 pm

    Hole wrote:Why is the date not secret? It´s counterintelligence, dude! lol!

    It is just limited hangout. tongue
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    Post  franco Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:51 pm

    Hole wrote:Why is the date not secret? It´s counterintelligence, dude! lol!

    Not actually the real date, disinformation ploy so that the traitors will expose themselves. Arrow

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    Post  George1 Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:54 pm

    December 20, FSB Day russia

    https://en.topwar.ru/178324-20-dekabrja-den-rabotnika-organov-bezopasnosti-rf.html
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    Post  Hole Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:41 pm

    "Secrets services" angry attack
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    Post  franco Sun Dec 20, 2020 9:10 pm

    George1 wrote:December 20, FSB Day russia

    https://en.topwar.ru/178324-20-dekabrja-den-rabotnika-organov-bezopasnosti-rf.html

    See Putin visiting the SVR so double checked. It is the holiday for all the Secret Services not just the FSB. Must have been the old KGB holiday Smile
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    Post  Hole Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:23 pm

    New stuff for the SVR

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    Post  Nomad5891 Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:53 pm

    Anyone else waiting to see some GRU high ranking heads roll?
    The spy fiasco in the Czeck Republic seems to be last drop in Putin´s cup of patience.

    To blow up a warehouse in a foreign country and kill 2 of its citizens just so you prevent a weapon deal  between 3rd parties...damn this is bordering a formal war declaration. The stuff only rotten  imperealistic USA and Israel do...
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    Post  franco Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:03 pm

    Nomad5891 wrote:Anyone else waiting to see some GRU high ranking heads roll?
    The spy fiasco in the Czeck Republic seems to be last drop in Putin´s cup of patience.

    To blow up a warehouse in a foreign country and kill 2 of its citizens just so you prevent a weapon deal  between 3rd parties...damn this is bordering a formal war declaration. The stuff only rotten  imperealistic USA and Israel do...

    So let's see your facts Jack:

    - old ammo sold to third party to sell to Ukrainian army and Syrian rebels
    - original call was a fire but when the fire department got there and saw all the ammo, they wisely backed off and called the central government
    - in 2016 it was deemed negligence on the part of the third party
    - so 5 years later it is Russia but they won't share their evidence
    - also it was the guys who poisoned the Skripal's apparently... Russian super spys
    - sounds like a Soros special...

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    Post  lancelot Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:48 pm

    I am inclined to believe the thesis someone did these "fires" to erase the evidence of disappearance of ammunition from the depots.
    All sorts of weird occurrences with regards to weapons possibly supplied to Syria from all over Europe. It cannot all be explained with Russian sabotage.

    This article is about US involvement in Afghanistan. Extrapolate this to Syria.
    https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/the-stoner-arms-dealers-how-two-american-kids-became-big-time-weapons-traders-176604/


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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Apr 22, 2021 4:52 pm

    Nomad5891 wrote:Anyone else waiting to see some GRU high ranking heads roll?
    The spy fiasco in the Czeck Republic seems to be last drop in Putin´s cup of patience....

    Why should GRU give a fu¢k if Czechs had to pull some circus act just to get Rosatom out of the competition for the local power plant contract?



    Nomad5891 wrote:...To blow up a warehouse in a foreign country and kill 2 of its citizens just so you prevent a weapon deal  between 3rd parties...damn this is bordering a formal war declaration. The stuff only rotten  imperealistic USA and Israel do...

    Someone has to be stupid enough to believe something like that first

    Reminder, Czechs​ are trying to convince people that it was done by the same two guys who got blamed for Scripal clownshow in UK

    When you are telling nonsense you always run the risk of going one step too far into ridiculous zone which they did right here




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    Post  franco Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:34 pm

    Petrov and Boshirov have nothing to do with it: a military unit of punishers is burning in the Donbass

    NOTE: to make a long story short. A fuel truck at one of the Ukrainian military units in the Donbass caught fire and burned. The Donbass media having fun with the West...

    https://uveqghgfjuukp6xyeztcj5tu6i-ac4c6men2g7xr2a-politnavigator-net.translate.goog/petrov-i-boshirov-ni-pri-chjom-v-donbasse-gorit-voinskaya-chast-karatelejj.html?utm_source=warfiles.ru

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    Post  par far Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:01 pm

    franco wrote:
    Nomad5891 wrote:Anyone else waiting to see some GRU high ranking heads roll?
    The spy fiasco in the Czeck Republic seems to be last drop in Putin´s cup of patience.

    To blow up a warehouse in a foreign country and kill 2 of its citizens just so you prevent a weapon deal  between 3rd parties...damn this is bordering a formal war declaration. The stuff only rotten  imperealistic USA and Israel do...

    So let's see your facts Jack:

    - old ammo sold to third party to sell to Ukrainian army and Syrian rebels
    - original call was a fire but when the fire department got there and saw all the ammo, they wisely backed off and called the central government
    - in 2016 it was deemed negligence on the part of the third party
    - so 5 years later it is Russia but they won't share their evidence
    - also it was the guys who poisoned the Skripal's apparently... Russian super spys
    - sounds like a Soros special...


    Very true, one of the main reasons for this is to cut off Europe from Russia.

    This video touches upon what is going on.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:40 am

    Nomad5891 wrote:Anyone else waiting to see some GRU high ranking heads roll?
    The spy fiasco in the Czeck Republic seems to be last drop in Putin´s cup of patience.

    To blow up a warehouse in a foreign country and kill 2 of its citizens just so you prevent a weapon deal  between 3rd parties...damn this is bordering a formal war declaration. The stuff only rotten  imperealistic USA and Israel do...

    Wow... you just keep on swallowing those blue pills, dontcha? Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Nomad5891 Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:19 am


    Nomad5891 wrote:...To blow up a warehouse in a foreign country and kill 2 of its citizens just so you prevent a weapon deal  between 3rd parties...damn this is bordering a formal war declaration. The stuff only rotten  imperealistic USA and Israel do...

    Someone has to be stupid enough to believe something like that first

    Reminder, Czechs​ are trying to convince people that it was done by the same two guys who got blamed for Scripal clownshow in UK

    When you are telling nonsense you always run the risk of going one step too far into ridiculous zone which they did right here


    Well exactly, this is the point- it is so ridiculous that if Czechs or some outside Big Brother were to invent a fairytale in order to sabotage Russia-Czech/EU relations they would have gone something far more convincing and simple. Plus they would not have to go back to some 7 year old story...
    My take on this story is Czechs knew it was Russians all the time but just kept quiet about it. I even can believe Russia got permission from the CZ governemnt for the operation. Now that they started to get too close with Russia (Sputnik V and Rosatom deal) a good friend from across the ocean leaked the truth and the CZ government had to play along.

    The reason I tend to belive Russians were invovled is simply because in the same warehouse weapons of Bulgarian weapon dealer were stored too. Same Bulgarian dealer that was "poisoned" with similar sympthoms as the Skripals though he survived. A russian guy by the name of Fedotov who is linked to the poisoning of the Skripals visited Bulgaria at the same time he went ill. He missed to take a booked flight back to Moscow. Same way he missed to take a booked flight to Russia from UK after Skripals poisoning.
    At that time a good number of weapon depots in Bulgaria went up the air too.
    Call me stupid or troll but when I see so many coincidences I just stop calling them coincidences.

    So is it possible the GRU was not invovled in stopping weapon sales to the Ucraine regime? Doubt it very much. This is very much why they exist after all.

    In my view they just did a poor job, leaving too many traces that are now actively been used by the enemy to destroy Russia's relations with the west. And this is the reasons I expect a few "changes" are to be made in GRU. The whole point of a secret operation is that it will remain secret the whole time.
    Else just fire a Kalibr at the depot and be done with it.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:59 am

    Anyone else waiting to see some GRU high ranking heads roll?

    I would say medals for a job well done.

    The spy fiasco in the Czeck Republic seems to be last drop in Putin´s cup of patience.

    This is an unprovoked attack on Russia, they have already said it was an accident and more recently they admitted it again.

    To blow up a warehouse in a foreign country and kill 2 of its citizens just so you prevent a weapon deal between 3rd parties...damn this is bordering a formal war declaration.

    They are not accusing them of that though.... they admit the explosion was accidental and it wasn't the Russians.

    The stuff only rotten imperealistic USA and Israel do...

    Raises a good point... the EU banned Russian ships from docking in EU ports when Russia was sending support to Assads government fighting EU supported terrorists. The munitions in question were going to be sent to the Ukraine to be used on Ukrainian civilians.... sounds like fair game to me... Israel does that all the time and their proof is rarely very strong.

    I am inclined to believe the thesis someone did these "fires" to erase the evidence of disappearance of ammunition from the depots.

    Convincing and more likely...

    Very true, one of the main reasons for this is to cut off Europe from Russia.

    Navalny had better check his underpants very carefully before putting them on tomorrow morning.... he is next I suspect.

    Same Bulgarian dealer that was "poisoned" with similar sympthoms as the Skripals though he survived.

    I call bullshit... if any Putin opponent gets sick in any way the western media pounce on it like a tiger that hasn't eaten in two weeks would on a pile of raw meat...

    Even Diabetic drug addict Navalny was claimed to have been Novachoked...

    He missed to take a booked flight back to Moscow. Same way he missed to take a booked flight to Russia from UK after Skripals poisoning.

    What moron on an assassination mission would book direct flights from the country he comes from to the location of his hit... zero out of ten must try harder.

    At that time a good number of weapon depots in Bulgaria went up the air too.

    Weapon depots explode in Russia too... can't possibly be that old weapons and ammo are dangerous... it must have been an act of war sabotage from HATO... or Obama himself or George Bush Jnr...

    Call me stupid or troll but when I see so many coincidences I just stop calling them coincidences.

    So you are saying multiple arms depots blew up in the Czech republic and the media said nothing for 7 years.... talk about free and open media... but you say they might have known and were protecting Russia but now big bad creepy joe is telling his attack dogs to attack... the Czech media is ignoring the story are they?

    So is it possible the GRU was not invovled in stopping weapon sales to the Ucraine regime? Doubt it very much. This is very much why they exist after all.

    Sounds highly likely... highly likely pulled from someones ass.

    Russia is under sanction for supplying parts of the ukraine with weapons and supporting rebels, the west openly supplies Kiev a coup imposed government that eliminated all opposition and is currently shelling its own people... sounds like a cheque they can't cash... perhaps closing embassies is the solution if they want to play such juvenile games.

    How about weapons and equipment found in Syria prove the west has been supporting ISIS and Al Quada, perhaps Russia should start treating the US and the EU like the terrorist supporters they are...

    In my view they just did a poor job, leaving too many traces that are now actively been used by the enemy to destroy Russia's relations with the west

    Took seven years for the accusations to surface and they didn't even stick to those accusations, I would say mission well done if they did it...

    Of course you can't ignore the obvious incompetence too... but sabotage is easy.... intel agencies have all sorts of very long time fuses... you could get a four day fuse and open a box of explosives and put it inside and then position the box so that it will be in the middle of the pile when it is stacked for storage...

    The equivalent of the western OSS making fake coal with a HE core so when thrown into a furnace it explodes... destroying the train engine.

    And this is the reasons I expect a few "changes" are to be made in GRU.

    Promotions at the very least... likely a lot of Ukrainians are still alive because that ammo didn't make it to the ORCs.

    The whole point of a secret operation is that it will remain secret the whole time.

    Only at the time.

    Once it has achieved its objectives then being revealed can't make it a failure.

    Else just fire a Kalibr at the depot and be done with it.

    Likely plan B.

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