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    George1

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    Re: Russian Cruise Missiles Thread

    Post  George1 on Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:49 am

    Club-T rocket complex

    According to the "Jane's Missiles & Rockets" magazine in James Bingham's article "Novator reveals new Club system, missile and range details", at the international defense and space exhibition Gulf Defense & Aerospace held in Kuwait in December 2017, the Russian JSC "Experienced Design Bureau" Innovator "named after L.V. Lyuliev "(Ekaterinburg, part of the JSC" Concern VKO Almaz-Antey ") for the first time introduced a new ground-based mobile version of its Club missile system (export version of the Caliber complex), designated Club-T.



    Unlike the first shown on the air show MAKS-2007 of the similar ground mobile complex Club-M (equipped with anti-ship missiles of types 3М54КЭ and 3М54КЭ1 and cruise missiles 3М14КЭ), the Club-T complex in the current version is intended only for the use of modified cruise missiles for the destruction of ground targets 3М14Э1 . Accordingly, the target designation means with the corresponding machine were removed from the complex, and only self-propelled launchers on the MZKT-7930 chassis with the wheel formula 8x8 are left, on each of which six transport-launch containers with cruise missiles 3M14E1 are placed.

    What exactly is the cruise missile version of the 3M14E1 differs from the previously demonstrated 3M14E / KE rocket, is not disclosed. Although officially, the Novator OKB Novator declares the range of the 3M14E1 missile at 275 km, but Mikhail Pakhomov, the head of the Novator's foreign relations department, confirmed at the exhibition in Kuwait that the range can be increased to more than 300 km that will exceed the limits of the Missile technologies (MTCR). The mass of the missile's warhead in accordance with the MTCR limits is declared at 450 kg.

    It is reported that the launch of cruise missiles from the Club-T launcher can be carried out within 15 minutes of deployment, launching the missiles at intervals of 5-10 seconds.

    Pakhomov said that they are close to completing the integration of the anti-ship missiles 3M54E and 3M54E1 into the Club-T complex (as you can understand, their application is supposed to be based on external target designation data).

    Also, the Novator Design Bureau at the exhibition in Kuwait presented materials on the new version of the 3M14E sea-launched cruise missile designated 3M14TLE intended for underwater launching from vertical submarine launchers (the Club-S system).

    The bmpd comment. Presumably, the self-propelled launchers of the Club-T complex are analogous to the most alleged US attacks on allegedly "extended" launchers of the Iskander-M version of the complex with the notorious 9M729 cruise missiles, according to the American side allegedly violating the terms of the Treaty on the Elimination of Missiles average and shorter range of 1987.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3026196.html


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    Re: Russian Cruise Missiles Thread

    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:11 am

    Guaranteed that this is no secret that such system is being showcased. Simply because Club-T would be a system to pretty much counter US if they decide to break the INF treaty and having a ready to launch six Kalibr missiles with 2,000km would be the most ideal system to field.
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    Re: Russian Cruise Missiles Thread

    Post  AlfaT8 on Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:01 pm

    Gentlemen, what the hell just happened.

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    Re: Russian Cruise Missiles Thread

    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:16 pm

    Also note what Putin stated. The nuclear engine for this thing can fit on existing weapons like Kh-101 and Tomahawk (guessing on how it universally works). Awesome stuff.
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    Re: Russian Cruise Missiles Thread

    Post  gaurav on Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:21 pm

    Miketerrible wrote:Also note what Putin stated. The nuclear engine for this thing can fit on existing weapons like Kh-101 and Tomahawk (guessing on how it universally works). Awesome stuff.

    So the missile was photo/vision tracked from a sukhoi-30 it seems..? I mean the fighter was tracking the missile in flight (with eye contact).

    Hmmm.. they used to do a lot with kh-101 and may be with tomahawk.

    But this must be more advanced in carrying iinfrared jammers(DIRCM), infrared decoys , radar jammers and also a heavy armour/stealth on the missile.

    U.S missile defense will be totally fooled by such low level flight. Strange mix of hypersonic and subsonic weapons .. to completely out flank the U.S missile
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    According to Pyotr Butovsky in the article "Russian bombers to be armed with new Kh-50 theater-cruise missile" in the magazine "Jane's Missiles & Rockets", Russian sources in early December 2017 disclosed the designation X-50 for the new Russian operational- tactical (sub-strategic) cruise missile. Sources said that the deployment of X-50 missile production is planned within the framework of the new Russian State Arms Program for 2018-2027 (GPV-2027).


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    Scheme of the new Russian airborne cruise missile X-50, executed on the basis of the patent of Tactical Missile Armament Corporation

    I think the Kinzhal product is related to these previous 2 missiles

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    X-101/102 Stealth features

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:13 am

    From some footage I can see the podded jet engine still there on the X-101 cruise missile. Dont podded engines remove any stealth a missile(or aircraft has)?
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    Re: Russian Cruise Missiles Thread

    Post  Isos on Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:28 am

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:From some footage I can see the  podded jet engine still there on the X-101 cruise missile. Dont podded engines remove any stealth a missile(or aircraft has)?

    The engine is under the missile so it is hidden by the boddy to all airborne radars specially the front of the engine. It changes nothing to its stealth.

    Moreover it flies very low so ground based radar will see it only when it is close to them. Even with a stralth engine it would be detected so better go for the cheaper engine they already have which is also much more efficient because they don't use an S shape entry to send the air in the missile as it is done on kh-35 or other western missiles.
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    Re: Russian Cruise Missiles Thread

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:18 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:From some footage I can see the podded jet engine still there on the X-101 cruise missile. Dont podded engines remove any stealth a missile(or aircraft has)?

    Are you sure you aren't confusing them with Kh-55? Those do have podded engine but they were never stealth missiles to begin with.
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    Re: Russian Cruise Missiles Thread

    Post  KomissarBojanchev on Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:29 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    KomissarBojanchev wrote:From some footage I can see the  podded jet engine still there on the X-101 cruise missile. Dont podded engines remove any stealth a missile(or aircraft has)?

    Are you sure you aren't confusing them with Kh-55? Those do have podded engine but they were never stealth missiles to begin with.
    The X-101 is a modification of the X-55.
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    Re: Russian Cruise Missiles Thread

    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:22 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:....
    The X-101 is a modification of the X-55.

    Those two are as similar as MiG-21 and Su-57

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    Re: Russian Cruise Missiles Thread

    Post  GarryB on Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:15 am

    The X-101 is a modification of the X-55.

    No it is not.

    Kh-555 is a modification of the Kh-55, Kh-101 and Kh-102 are completely new missiles with completely new engines... they are almost double the weight of the Kh-55s for a start.

    Contrary to popular belief most cruise missiles actually fly at medium altitude for the first part of a long flight and then drop down to lower altitudes to penetrate enemy air defences.

    This extends flight range by quite a bit.


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