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    Singular_Transform

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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Singular_Transform on Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:41 pm

    AMCXXL wrote:

    The exchage rate depends of the offer and demmand laws , as all in a capitalist economy, does not have direct relation with the indusrial capacity

    Since the sanctions against Russia is not easy economical exchange with Russia , so the Ruble has not the same value in the West that before sanctions.
    If someone want to pay you with Rubles, you will ask for more rubles than before, because you cannot find easy things to purchase with the Rubles you have got.

    Also USA manofacture one main thing: dollars,
    And the most of countries had to use dollar for the international trade, this means,you had to purchase dollars for can get gods from other countries.
    This is the reason why USA currency is the currency of reference since 1944 (Breton Woods) and is for that USA can purchase the most of the Oil, Steel , Copper, Uranium , etc... produced by a lot of countries, only printing dollars over a simple paper.
    it's that stupid but that's how the world economy works , imposed by the USA at the end of the Second World War

    Usa does not have a big industrial power if you compare with USA in 1970.
    Nowadays USA only manofacture weapons and dollars

    However Russia has reached this year the same production of wheat that Russia as part of Soviet Unión (30 years after Gorbachov ruined tha USSR) and the production of all types are growing every year.




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    My point is simple: The russian MOD spending rubels, and its military capability depend on that how many warplanes it can buy from the rubles it has. The US the same , the price of the aircrafts doesn't matter, but the number of them that they can buy.

    So, by saying that example it cost 1.5 billion rubel to buy one su34 we setting up the upper limit of aircrafts that the russian MOD can buy ,if we say that the F/S18 cost 100 million the we set up an upper limit as well.

    And at the end of the day in the case of both country the relative strength is the matter .

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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  mnztr on Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:20 am

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    AMCXXL wrote:

    The exchage rate depends of the offer and demmand laws , as all in a capitalist economy, does not have direct relation with the indusrial capacity

    Since the sanctions against Russia is not easy economical exchange with Russia , so the Ruble has not the same value in the West that before sanctions.
    If someone want to pay you with Rubles, you will ask for more rubles than before, because you cannot find easy things to purchase with the Rubles you have got.

    Also USA manofacture one main thing: dollars,
    And the most of countries had to use dollar for the international trade, this means,you had to purchase dollars for can get gods from other countries.
    This is the reason why USA currency is the currency of reference since 1944 (Breton Woods) and is for that USA can purchase the most of the Oil, Steel , Copper, Uranium , etc... produced by a lot of countries, only printing dollars over a simple paper.
    it's that stupid but that's how the world economy works , imposed by the USA at the end of the Second World War

    Usa does not have a big industrial power if you compare with USA in 1970.
    Nowadays USA only manofacture weapons and dollars

    However Russia has reached this year the same production of wheat that Russia as part of Soviet Unión (30 years after Gorbachov ruined tha USSR) and the production of all types are growing every year.




    I

    My point is simple: The russian MOD spending rubels, and its military capability depend on that how many warplanes it can buy from the rubles it has. The US the same , the price of the aircrafts doesn't matter, but the number of them that they can buy.

    So, by saying that example it cost 1.5 billion rubel to buy one su34 we setting up the upper limit of aircrafts that the russian MOD can buy ,if we say that the F/S18 cost 100 million the we set up an upper limit as well.

    And at the end of the day in the case of both country the relative strength is the matter .

    What are Russian military pensions like. One of the dirty secrets of the US military is the vast majority of the money goes to salaries, pension and medicare. About 10% actually goes weapon ammo and spares.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  AMCXXL on Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:37 am

    mnztr wrote:
    Singular_Transform wrote:
    AMCXXL wrote:

    The exchage rate depends of the offer and demmand laws , as all in a capitalist economy, does not have direct relation with the indusrial capacity

    Since the sanctions against Russia is not easy economical exchange with Russia , so the Ruble has not the same value in the West that before sanctions.
    If someone want to pay you with Rubles, you will ask for more rubles than before, because you cannot find easy things to purchase with the Rubles you have got.

    Also USA manofacture one main thing: dollars,
    And the most of countries had to use dollar for the international trade, this means,you had to purchase dollars for can get gods from other countries.
    This is the reason why USA currency is the currency of reference since 1944 (Breton Woods) and is for that USA can purchase the most of the Oil, Steel , Copper, Uranium , etc... produced by a lot of countries, only printing dollars over a simple paper.
    it's that stupid but that's how the world economy works , imposed by the USA at the end of the Second World War

    Usa does not have a big industrial power if you compare with USA in 1970.
    Nowadays USA only manofacture weapons and dollars

    However Russia has reached this year the same production of wheat that Russia as part of Soviet Unión (30 years after Gorbachov ruined tha USSR) and the production of all types are growing every year.




    I

    My point is simple: The russian MOD spending rubels, and its military capability depend on that how many warplanes it can buy from the rubles it has. The US the same , the price of the aircrafts doesn't matter, but the number of them that they can buy.

    So, by saying that example it cost 1.5 billion rubel to buy one su34 we setting up the upper limit of aircrafts that the russian MOD can buy ,if we say that the F/S18 cost 100 million the we set up an upper limit as well.

    And at the end of the day in the case of both country the relative strength is the matter .

    What are Russian military pensions like. One of the dirty secrets of the US military is the vast majority of the money goes to salaries, pension and medicare. About 10% actually goes weapon ammo and spares.

    No , the budget for veterans (pension, Medic aid , etc...) is out the Pentagon budget of 700.000. millions dollars
    Also the current expenditure on military operations abroad is financed with extraordinary credits, not with the ordinary budget of the DoD
    Also the money for support "freedon figthers" , finance "democratic oppositions" , coups d'etat, paying "advisers", financing Arab springs, etc... are part of Departament of State Budget,(other 65.000 millions), not part of DoD budget

    The military wages are about 50% of military budget in all the west armies with profesional soldiers.
    The spending in new weapons and maintenance of military hardware is mastodontic in USA, near half of global arms spending

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