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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed May 23, 2018 2:41 am

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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  George1 on Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:10 pm

    Incident with a Su-34 bomber in that rolled out beyond the runway at landing at Khurba airfield in the Khabarovsk Territory. According to eyewitnesses, the plane rolled out almost 500 meters to the ground. There are no victims.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3291056.html

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    Post  Hole on Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:39 pm

    Propably malfuntion of the chute.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Big_Gazza on Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:27 am

    Nice vid of Su-34/Kh-31 taking out a target ship in the Caspian.

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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  AMCXXL on Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:19 pm

    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201807312242-mil-ru-znwbs.html

    10 crews of the Central Military District underwent retraining for new Su-34 aircraft
    At the Lipetsk Combat Training Center, the pilots completed theoretical and practical retraining for new equipment, taking into account the combat experience gained in the SAR (Syrian aviation component)
    At the Lipetsk Combat Training Center, the pilots completed theoretical and practical retraining for new equipment, taking into account the combat experience gained in the SAR
    Earlier it was reported that 10 multifunctional Su-34 fighter-bombers went under the state defense order to the aviation regiment in the Chelyabinsk region, where the squadron, the first in the Central Military District, armed with the Su-34


    Then the first Su-34 squadron of 2 BAP regiment has been raised with 10 Su-34 airplanes

    In late 2017 were handed over 6: Nº01 to Nº06
    In may 2018 were received 2 more: Nº07 and Nº08
    The other two must have been transfered from other place, probably two of the supposed 26 Su-34 that in theory receive the 277º regiment

    In fact the numbers Nº20 and Nº21 are missed since were delivered more of one year ago , so probably were transferred to Lípetsk instead Khurba for the use of the new Su-34 pilots of 2 BAP, thinking the numbers on Lipetsk are 02 , 05 , 10, 12 , 14 , 15 , 16 , 17 , and 18

    Then now the accounts are 24 in Khurba and 10 in Chelyabinsk
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    Post  hoom on Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:05 pm

    Bastion-Karpenko is reporting that Russia is now offering Su-34 for export, has recieved 'first bid' (first order/application?).
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  AMCXXL on Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:55 am

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3334146.html
    The deployment of Su-34 to Chelyabinsk airbase has begun
    Three airplanes just landed in Chelyabinsk airfield.
    Of these three airplanes, Nº08 was already transferred to the VKS in May, and had been in Lípetsk until now.

    In addition also have arrived the Nº09 and the Nº10 that at the end of August were still in the factory of Novosibirsk, therefore in number of airplanes transferred to the VKS in September it is of 2, which raises to 111 the number of serial aircraft in service


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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  George1 on Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:43 pm

    Any info what type of missile is this?

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    Post  Isos on Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:29 pm

    Not missile. It is a fuel tank.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  kumbor on Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:21 pm

    George1 wrote:Any info what type of missile is this?


    Looks more like underbelly fuel tank! Modern russian missiles are often turbojet propelled.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Isos on Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:27 pm

    kumbor wrote:
    George1 wrote:Any info what type of missile is this?


    Looks more like underbelly fuel tank! Modern russian missiles are often turbojet propelled.

    I wonder if the fuel tank has the same size/weight as kinzal ? If yes then they could upgrade them for kinzhal use.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  hoom on Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:11 pm

    PTB-3000 droptank apparently.
    Thats 3050 litres ~= 2400kg
    Iskander is 3800kg according to Wiki so probably too heavy.
    Seems length is about same but Iskander is quite a lot fatter.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  GarryB on Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:44 am

    Well the Su-33 has been shown with Moskit under its belly, and though it has never taken off from a carrier with a real one, they must have thought of it as an option... otherwise why bother?



    Moskit is 4.5 tons... the Onyx/Yakhont next to it in the photo above is evidence of how far they have come as it is a ton and a half lighter, at 3 tons, yet matches its speed and likely goes rather further, and there is less than ten years between them... the ship launched Sunburn entered service in 1981 and Onyx entered production in 1987...

    Even into the 1990s the British brushed off criticism of their ship losses in the Falklands because the Soviets didn't have sea skimming anti ship missiles...

    Iskander is not too heavy, but might be too bulky to fit between the engine nacelles of an Su-34.

    To be honest having the MiG-31 for max flight performance (from high speed high altitude launch), and the Tu-22M3M with its ability to carry 4, why would you want any other platform to carry them... they will likely be doing other things with different weapon types... after the first few ships are sunk most others will likely scatter anyway...
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    Post  LMFS on Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:17 am

    GarryB wrote:Well the Su-33 has been shown with Moskit under its belly, and though it has never taken off from a carrier with a real one, they must have thought of it as an option... otherwise why bother?
    Good info!
    Iskander is not too heavy, but might be too bulky to fit between the engine nacelles of an Su-34.
    I think paralay made some sketch and IIRC the missile would fit, will try to find it.
    To be honest having the MiG-31 for max flight performance (from high speed high altitude launch), and the Tu-22M3M with its ability to carry 4, why would you want any other platform to carry them...
    Naval fighters with Kinzhal would be a huge breakthrough for RuN...
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  hoom on Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:53 am

    I feel like if it was a practical fit for Su-34 etc they wouldn't be going through the effort of reactivating MiG-31Ks as dedicated Kinzhal launchers.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  kumbor on Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:41 am

    GarryB wrote:Well the Su-33 has been shown with Moskit under its belly, and though it has never taken off from a carrier with a real one, they must have thought of it as an option... otherwise why bother?



    Moskit is 4.5 tons... the Onyx/Yakhont next to it in the photo above is evidence of how far they have come as it is a ton and a half lighter, at 3 tons, yet matches its speed and likely goes rather further, and there is less than ten years between them... the ship launched Sunburn entered service in 1981 and Onyx entered production in 1987...

    Even into the 1990s the British brushed off criticism of their ship losses in the Falklands because the Soviets didn't have sea skimming anti ship missiles...

    Iskander is not too heavy, but might be too bulky to fit between the engine nacelles of an Su-34.

    To be honest having the MiG-31 for max flight performance (from high speed high altitude launch), and the Tu-22M3M with its ability to carry 4, why would you want any other platform to carry them... they will likely be doing other things with different weapon types... after the first few ships are sunk most others will likely scatter anyway...

    Onyx was still in development in 1987. It became operational somewhere in 2000s, as Russians received indian fundings to complete development.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  kumbor on Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:01 pm

    Hole wrote:

    This is not SU-34, "sting" is too short and there are no canards.
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    Post  LMFS on Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:37 pm

    kumbor wrote:This is not SU-34, "sting" is too short and there are no canards.
    Yes but that does not affect the channel, engine nacelles and basic dimensions which are those of T-10 platform.

    Would not think the Su-34 is the most appropriate member of the Flanker family to launch the Kinzhal though, due mainly to reduced top speed.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:09 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    kumbor wrote:This is not SU-34, "sting" is too short and there are no canards.
    Yes but that does not affect the channel, engine nacelles and basic dimensions which are those of T-10 platform.

    Would not think the Su-34 is the most appropriate member of the Flanker family to launch the Kinzhal though, due mainly to reduced top speed.

    I'dont think any flanker should carry Kinzhal. There is enough Tu-22m + MiG-31 for this task. Flankers are much more needed in their original roles to protect homeland.
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    Post  LMFS on Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:30 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:I'dont think any flanker should  carry Kinzhal. There is enough Tu-22m + MiG-31 for this task. Flankers are much more needed in their original roles to protect homeland.
    Is this an advice from NATO?

    Also didn't knew that MiG-31's original role had something to do with carrying Kinzhal... this was just a creative and economical expansion of Russian military capabilities. If Flanker COULD also carry it, what exactly would be the problem?
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Hole on Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:41 pm

    An Su-30/-34/-35 with Kinzhal would protect the homeland.

    If the performance of the Kinzahl doesn´t suffer to much (speed, range) any suitable (big, strong enough) aircraft should be capable of carrying it.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:17 pm

    LMFS wrote:

    Also didn't knew that MiG-31's original role had something to do with carrying Kinzhal... this was just a creative and economical expansion of Russian military capabilities. If Flanker COULD also carry it, what exactly would be the problem?

    agreed with bolded thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup

    Technically  probably Flanker could. But it makes not much sense IMHO. Kinzhal is not going to be produced in bulk.  Russia has over 250 of all MiG-31 modifications, from which ~ 110 MiG-31-BM and 10 MiG-31K.  There is more than enough of them to carry Kinzhal if needed. Especially that there will be also 36 fleet Tu-22M3M modernized as carriers of Kinzhal. 4 kinzhal each.






    Hole wrote:An Su-30/-34/-35 with Kinzhal would protect the homeland.
    If the performance of the Kinzahl doesn´t suffer to much (speed, range) any suitable (big, strong enough) aircraft should be capable of carrying it.

    then why not every F-15/F-16 can carry nukes? perhaps you dont need so many carriers.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  Hole on Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:57 pm

    Every F-16 could carry B61 nuclear bombs. Like the F/A-18 and the B-1B. Or the MiG-29 and Su-27 on the russian side. There are treaties that prevent it.
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    Re: Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:08 am

    Actually, Kinzhal could be massed produced along with Kh-32 due to their strategic value and simpler to make.

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