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    Post  nomadski Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:42 am

    Lufthansa stopped flights into Iran . Also today flights cancelled in Tehran . A few days ago flights cancelled in Kish Island in PG . I was looking for this , as a sign of any  retaliation by Iran . So a direct significant strike against Israel , may have been decided on . And now Biden giving " Iron clad , " support to Israel . Therefore we enter into a war . Now Iran has no nukes and we know the various internal problems too . I have no doubt that Israel's response at some stage will be a nuke strike . Not excluding a pre-emptive nuke strike now . And Iran will have to surrender . Then the worms will crawl out of the woodwork !
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    Post  sepheronx Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:20 am

    nomadski wrote:Lufthansa stopped flights into Iran . Also today flights cancelled in Tehran . A few days ago flights cancelled in Kish Island in PG . I was looking for this , as a sign of any  retaliation by Iran . So a direct significant strike against Israel , may have been decided on . And now Biden giving " Iron clad , " support to Israel . Therefore we enter into a war . Now Iran has no nukes and we know the various internal problems too . I have no doubt that Israel's response at some stage will be a nuke strike . Not excluding a pre-emptive nuke strike now . And Iran will have to surrender . Then the worms will crawl out of the woodwork !

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:27 am

    🇺🇸/🇮🇱/🇮🇷 NEW: Later today, Gen. Michael E. Kurilla, commander of U.S. CENTCOM, will arrive in Israel to coordinate with the IDF against the upcoming Iranian missile threat

    https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/5962
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:34 am

    Iran's missiles built in past 12 years not relying on GPS, other int'l systems

    All missiles built in Iran in the past 12 years do not use any international positioning systems, including the Global Positioning System (GPS), Iranian news agency Fars has reported, citing a source in the aerospace forces of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), who commented on reports of GPS jamming in Israel.

    "Iran has premeditated a solution to this issue, and all missiles built in the past 12 years do not use GPS or any other international positioning system," the report quoted the source as saying.

    A source close to Israel's security agencies confirmed to Sputnik last week that Israeli security services are massively jamming GPS signals in various parts of the country to, among other things, disorient potential enemy aerial targets such as missiles or drones. These measures come amid Tehran's threats to respond to a recent Israeli airstrike on the consular annex of the Iranian Embassy in Damascus.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:05 pm

    Israel-Iran tensions: latest updates

    Recent escalation of tensions in the Middle East following a deadly Israeli strike on the Iranian Embassy in Syria in early April shows no signs of abating.

    What’s known so far?

    🌏 The US and its allies expect an “imminent missile strike” from Iran on Israel in the coming days, Bloomberg reports, citing sources familiar with the intelligence.

    🌏 Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has warned: “The evil Zionist regime made a mistake and must be punished and will be punished”.

    🌏 “If Iran attacks from its territory, Israel will respond and attack Iran,” Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz wrote on X in response.

    🌏 “Our commitment to Israel’s security against these threats from Iran and its proxies is ironclad. We will do all we can to protect Israel’s security,” US President Joe Biden said.

    🌏 All missiles built in Iran in the past 12 years do not use any international positioning systems, including the GPS, the Iranian news agency Fars has reported, citing a source in the aerospace forces of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. The source commented on reports of GPS jamming in Israel in light of Tehran’s possible strike.

    🌏 Russia urges Middle Eastern countries to exercise restraint to avoid "full destabilization of the situation in the region," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.

    🌏 Russia’s Foreign Ministry has “strongly recommended that Russian citizens refrain from traveling to the Middle East region, including Israel".

    🌏 Germany’s Lufthansa has suspended flights to and from Tehran from April 6 until probably April 11, “due to the current situation in the Middle East”.

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    Post  starman Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:29 pm

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:“Our commitment to Israel’s security against these threats from Iran and its proxies is ironclad. We will do all we can to protect Israel’s security,” US President Joe Biden said.

    A hypocrite and a bastard. What about the security and rights of others? Why didn't the US stop Israel from launching all the unprovoked  attacks which led to this crisis?? Including the murderous attack on a consulate, which should be inviolate.


    Russia urges Middle Eastern countries to exercise restraint to avoid "full destabilization of the situation in the region," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.

    I hate to say this, but Peskov's advice is probably the wisest. In view of the risks of allout war, Iran should secretly strike a deal with the US--no attack in exchange for covert sanctions relief. In this scenario, the US would look the other way while Iran exports more oil, earning more revenue and taming inflation before November so Trump won't regain the White House. Lousy though Biden is, Donald the demagogue would be worse.

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    Post  nomadski Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:06 pm




    There is too much ambient noise , and Zionists vested interests far exceed anything Iran could offer . Plus , even if the Yanks keep out of the way , there is always the false flag ! Iron clad chastity belt , won't help much . But Israeli nukes are a real concern . Now Iran did send the Zionists a lump of uranium metal , about 15 years ago . Otherwise it would be complete madness , to attack and Iranians are rational . Hope there is a plan for a ground offensive .




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    Post  Hole Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:15 pm

    “If Iran attacks from its territory, Israel will respond and attack Iran,” Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz wrote on X in response.
    You already attacked Iranian territory, you  angry

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:41 pm

    Iranian 'opposition' accounts are mad that Israel is threatening Iran

    What outsiders fail to understand is that while not all Iranians support the Islamic Republic, in case of an attack on the homeland, everyone will rally in support, regardless of politics.

    This is how Iranians are, and have been for many many centuries.

    https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/5974

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:43 pm

    Russia is in constant contact with Iran in light of Tehran's possible response to the Israeli strike against its consulate in Damascus, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov has said.

    "We are in constant contact [with Iran] and within BRICS new and in-depth discussions of the entire range of issues related to the Middle East are also expected in the near future," Ryabkov told reporters.

    Russia condemns Israel's attack on the Iranian consulate (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/20314) in Damascus and believes that condoning Israeli actions in the Middle East, which are the core of Washington's policy, is largely becoming the root cause of more and more tragedies, the diplomat added.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:38 pm

    🇮🇷/🇺 Iran's permanent mission to the United Nations:

    'Had the UNSC condemned the Zionist regime's reprehensible act of aggression on our diplomatic premises in Damascus, and subsequently brought to justice its perpetrators, the imperative for Iran to punish this rogue regime might have been obviated'

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    Post  nomadski Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:43 pm


    It is about the Zionists and yanks , trying to dictate to Iran : Don't have nuclear tech , don't have missiles , don't have allies and friends ! All these are the right of Iranian people . And they are not negotiable . Is this the position of a sensible country , to dictate to others ? Of course not . If by some miracle , say Italy was demanding these ,by force , then you could argue that teaching them a lesson might work . But not Israel . They are drowning in their own filth . Their long term future is greatly in doubt . In order to survive , they need continuous war . They need continuous IV solution from America . Therefore they are unlikely to learn any lesson . Iran can try and limit it's retaliation to be proportional to the damages they caused in the previous years : killing of scientists , military advisors and sabotage to half a dozen facilities etc . This would be like destroying a few ships and damaging nuclear facility and killing some professors in the university ! But this will not be the end of it . Therefore , if Iranians are thinking of limiting the strike , then they have to be very vigilant about any counter- strike . They must be ready . Particularly , they must make ready , the land invasion of Israel , directly by them and friends in the region .

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:49 pm

    Hole wrote:
    You already attacked Iranian territory, you  angry

    The most hilarious part is that every-fukin-body now shit their pants, what the Iranians can do as an answer.
    Proved not to be much shy ...
    Remind me, how many ballistic missiles were used last time? 10? Laughing
    Lets rise the bet now Shocked

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    Post  Hole Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:11 pm

    Retaliation should be that all BRICS+ countries support a one state solution.
    As Mandela put it: One man, one vote!
    Let the Zionists live with a Palestinian Prime Minister. Or they can leave.
    No problem with that, too.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:23 am

    For a few days now, it was seen that Israel is blocking the GPS signal to prevent it from being used by Iranian drones and missiles.
    It is said that Iran has not used this guidance system for 12 years.
    There is a system they can use, called TERCOM (Terrain Contour Matching).
    This guidance system became famous in the 80s, with the theme of the USA Cruise missiles. Therefore, it is nothing new.
    Iran also has satellites that capture images, with which it is possible to have a good mapping of an attack route towards the established objectives.
    That does not mean that they have other types of guides for their weapons, such as the DSMAC (digital scene-matching area correlator).

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    In the image you can see a cruise missile using the TERCOM and DSMAC systems.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:25 am

    🇺🇸/🇮🇱 The US Embassy in a security alert posted on its website that it had restricted its employees in Israel and their family members from personal travel outside the greater Tel Aviv, Jerusalem and Be'er Sheva areas until further notice. This message was issued due to the threats caused by Iran's possible attacks on Israel.

    https://t.me/iswnews_en/10632

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    Post  nomadski Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:01 am




    There are many different ways to guide a missile , not using GPS . Pershing missile used inertial navigation plus Radar to get a one meter accuracy , well before GPS . Using LPS is another on a jumping frequency . As is what you posted . Yet another is using a drone to drop a radio beacon on target or hover over target . Some missiles need not be accurate ( 2 km CEP ) using inaccuracy as an advantage to dispense submunitions or minelets , area denial . The Iranian warheads have been made to be EMP and frag proof , some with a perturbed and random terminal phase . Therefore they will cause damage . And will continue to cause damage , for as long as needed .
    Zionists can not dictate to Iran . A new phase in the daily life of the Zionist .

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:03 am

    Question: Does Iran have hypersonic missiles?
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    Post  nomadski Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:29 am

    Yes Walther , they do . However it is overkill in my view . Like sending ICBM to America with 500 kg conventional warhead . It is more damaging to Iran than Amerikkka ! But perhaps Iranians save these for special occasions : Birthdays , father's day , mother's day , Valentine day .....

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    https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/09/middleeast/iran-new-hypersonic-missile-mime-intl/index.html

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:00 pm

    Israel is expecting a direct attack from Iran on southern or northern Israel within the next 24 to 48 hours, The Wall Street Journal has reported, citing a person familiar with the matter.

    The report said, citing a person briefed by the Iranian leadership, that no final decision has been made yet, although plans for an attack are being discussed.

    The report also cited a US official familiar with the situation as saying that intelligence reports of the United States indicate an Iranian strike within days, "possibly on Israeli soil."

    On April 1, Israel carried out an airstrike on the consular annex of the Iranian embassy in Damascus, destroying the building. Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps said seven of its members had been killed in the attack, including two commanders. The Syrian Health Ministry said the next day that the attack had also killed four Syrians and injured 13 more.

    The Iranian Foreign Ministry said it "reserves the right" to respond to the Israeli attack and "punish the aggressor." Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi also vowed that Israel would pay a "heavy price" for the strike.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:01 pm

    White House doesn’t expect Iran’s strike against Israel to be big enough to draw US into conflict – report

    The US expects that a retaliatory attack by Iran against Israel will not be of a magnitude that would draw Washington directly into the conflict, Reuters reported, citing sources.

    Although such a strike from the Islamic Republic is anticipated, Tehran has reportedly indicated to the White House that it seeks to avoid a major escalation.

    Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian is believed to have conveyed the corresponding message during his visit to Oman on Sunday. Tehran will also be pressing ahead with demands for a Gaza truce, as per Iranian sources.

    Another source said Iran has “been very clear” that its response to the Israeli strike on its embassy in Syria’s capital would be “non-escalatory” and “controlled.”

    Washington has also sought to assure Tehran that it was not involved in the strike, according to a cited White House spokesperson.

    Israel carried out an airstrike on the consular annex (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/20236) of the Iranian Embassy in Damascus on April 1. The attack destroyed the building, killing seven members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, including two commanders.

    Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/20687) had vowed that Israel would pay a "heavy price" for the strike.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:05 pm

    It seems that in the USA and Israel, there is a state of great nervousness about Iran's response to the Israeli attack on its embassy in Syria.

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    Post  starman Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:07 pm

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:It seems that in the USA and Israel, there is a state of great nervousness about Iran's response to the Israeli attack on its embassy in Syria.

    It's asking a lot of Tehran to show restraint, but maybe Iran should be content with just the fears it has raised. The nervousness, the dread of deadly retaliation, causing some people to flee potential target areas, might be enough to make Israel reluctant to attack again, or make the US finally tell Israel not to bring the region so close to the brink again, with its unprovoked attacks. That would be a better outcome than a wider conflict. Especially if it's coupled with a secret US-Iran deal on oil, suggested above. Smile
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    Post  nomadski Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:46 pm


    No I disagree . A direct attack from Iranian soil on Israel , resulting in bloodshed and death is needed . Killing about 300 to 500 . Destroying some nuclear facility and a few Ships . Iranians need to set a precedent and be able to kill Zionists , this invasive species , both now and set an example for the future Iranian generations . Opening an artery and bleeding Israel continuously for many years . Until they leave or through long term bleeding , become naturalized and domesticated . No other way .

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:04 pm

    🇮🇱❗Israeli media: Tel Aviv is paralyzed by fear!

    Iran's threat to respond to the targeting of its consulate in Syria has made Israel paralyzed by fear. This is part of today's Israeli media reports about the tense situation in occupied Palestine.

    These media announced that the Israeli army has raised the alert level and regular and reserve soldiers from some special units who were planning to travel received a travel cancellation notice. This new order follows the fear of these soldiers being targeted outside the occupied Palestinian territories.

    The Israeli regime has closed 28 of its political offices in the world for fear of Iran's punitive response. This regime has also jammed the GPS system in order to disrupt possible attacks and has canceled the leave of its soldiers in combat units.

    On the other hand, many Israelis have rushed to the stores to buy essential items and food. This caused some Zionist officials to ask the Israelis to keep calm.

    #Israel

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