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    Post  lyle6 Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:10 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
    There's been what, 3-4 HIMARS launchers destroyed on camera over the past few days, using Tornado-S.

    Others have been claimed destroyed in the past in the same fashion, but out of range for UAV surveillance. Tornado has a max 120km range,  makes sense.

    So the recent flurry of footage means that either the Ukrainians moved them closer to the front to make up for the rapidly diminishing tube artillery assets, or the Russians have gotten longer-ranged recon drones (well, they've had them, but UA AD has been a limiting factor), or it's a combination.
    Its a combination of proliferation of counter-battery assets all over the front, mass adoption of the modernized rocket delivered recon UAVs and the buttery smooth integration between sensors and shooter honed over many hundreds of hours of non-stop drills in combat conditions. End result is a lightning quick counter-battery machine that can send a UAV swarm to the enemy firing position in under 3 minutes, perform scan sweeps of the area for mobile launchers out in the open or in hiding, and phone home the exact target coordinates for destruction.

    The Ukrainians couldn't actually be any more careful in using their HIMARS - shooting off one round at a time so they can bug out ASAP, but its irrelevant. A truck simply isn't physically fast enough to get out of dodge. If fires, it dies. That's it.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:12 pm

    As I have said multiple times, if you want to have an answer, ask the one who made the question.

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #54 - Page 20 Iran-IRGC-Ship-Abu-Mahdi-2

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #54 - Page 20 Iran-IRGC-Ship-Abu-Mahdi-940

    A relatively small Iranian corvette has FIVE independent rapid-fire guns of 23 and 30 mm cal, four of them being three barrel gatlings with 1000 rpm.

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    With several provisional stands for 12.7mm machine guns provided all around the hull.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:23 pm

    The response to USV is a simple one

    It's not a complex one at all

    Shore based observation posts, drones patrolling round the clock, guns mounted on sides with good FCS, and helicopters on board that can actually take off an engage USV with their own guns and missiles

    But we have BE12 giving coastal tours of the Black Sea to tourists , we have an unarmed patrol dinghy with no weapons or helicopter, and shore based observation are a couple of broenkors on vacation

    A shitfest
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:31 pm

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #54 - Page 20 Osaa_e10

    The pirates that this ship was made to defend against

    Are better armed than the ship

    Who the **** believed that an unarmed ship was gonna stop pirates that have anti ship missiles, Air defense missiles, ATGM, and all kinds of modern weapons?

    Solovyov, Skabaeva and Popov, putin himself has been telling all Russia about the impending NATO war for 20 years

    And this is what they give to the VMF

    It's an episode of grift of the highest order , the whole class should be used at sponges for USV
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    Post  ALAMO Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:33 pm

    You took the wrong pile again.
    Try to stay warm and drink a lot of water.
    It will pass in a day or two.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:37 pm

    Alamo wrote:You took the wrong pile again.
    Try to stay warm and drink a lot of water.
    It will pass in a day or two.

    Has nothing to do with doom

    The sinking of such ships makes no effect in the war, and we all know that

    My argument is to the entire point of such a class of ships in the first place , none
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    Post  Hole Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:44 pm

    There's been what, 3-4 HIMARS launchers destroyed on camera over the past few days,
    Add a S-300P system to that list.
    Plus multiple Howitzers.
    Some M1s.
    On the road to one village, currently being liberated by Russia, there were a dozen destroyed
    armored vehicles of the Banderites.

    the VMF never needed such shit ships
    But they were ordered by the Navy for Anti-Piracy missions
    to relieve the Udaloy class destroyers from that job.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:47 pm

    Exactly.
    Those are perfectly fine little and cost-effective patrol ships, with long endurance.
    They were not designed for a major war.
    You don't need a Death Star to monitor civilian traffic out of the Eritrean coast.
    And this is a part of a daily routine of any navy.
    Without them, VMF was forced to use 1155 for the role, which costed like four times more I suppose.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:48 pm

    Hole wrote:But they were ordered by the Navy for Anti-Piracy missions
    to relieve the Udaloy class destroyers from that job.

    We know that

    Only problem is, those pirates are rocking ASHM, MANPADS, medium range Air defenses, ATGM, and now long range drones

    Did the VMF need an unarmed ship for the role to relieve Udaloy?

    Was it really a cost issue?

    Because last I checked, the ship builder said they needed to check the hull for seaworthiness

    Imagine that

    Then, they came with another grift, containerized weapons

    Instead of firing admirals, we can start with the MOD



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    Post  ALAMO Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:55 pm

    And how, on a 1-10 scale, would you place it?
    When 1 is an absolute fraud, and 10 is a Klingonian Zuharirari imperial star battleship?
    And let's say, that we will give a whole LCS project a strong 3, and UK new carriers ... lets say 3.5?

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:11 pm

    Alamo wrote: And how, on a 1-10 scale, would you place it?
    When 1 is an absolute fraud, and 10 is a Klingonian Zuharirari imperial star battleship?
    And let's say, that we will give a whole LCS project a strong 3, and UK new carriers ... lets say 3.5?

    The UK is watching its merchant shipping fleet get wrecked by those pirates that these ships are supposed to deter

    22160 won't become a klingon death star with some basic additions

    For starters, Gibka-S or Pantsir, pick your choice, 22800 has it and weighs more than 400 tons less

    Also how about some deck guns with FCS ? I mean shit that sounds like a very basic idea to me, the naval superpower of Iran already has some

    And we can have a KA52 ready to take off from the helipad to destroy these USV with some Ataka or 30mm gunfire

    I mean that is what the helipad was for, or maybe I guess the landing paint stands for TOR M 2...

    So the issue is an elementary one - I take solace in the fact we aren't building 2 useless carriers... (hopefully)

    But we have a nice room for simple and effective improvements



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    Post  Kiko Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:15 pm

    Expert: The destruction of Abrams by the T-72BZ tank undermines America's engineering prestige, by Oleg Isaychenko for VZGLYAD. 03.06.2024.

    Military expert Bartosh: The elimination of Abrams by the T-72BZ tank will have a sobering effect on Western countries.

    Abrams tanks have long been considered an invincible machine. However, thanks to the precise actions of the Russian T-72BZ crew, the myth of the superiority of the American military-industrial complex was completely dispelled. Western countries will now think twice before sending new batches of military equipment to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, military expert Alexander Bartosh told the Vzglyad newspaper. Earlier, the T-72BZ crew destroyed an Abrams tank in the Avdeevsky direction.

    “When considering the story of the destruction of the American Abrams tank by the T-72BZ crew, it is worth paying attention to two aspects. First, we are talking about a moral victory. For a long time, Western media painted a picture of an invincible machine, which is almost impossible to eliminate. We have already destroyed this myth, and now the fighters, thanks to skillful and coordinated actions, have consolidated their success,” said Alexander Bartosh, corresponding member of the Academy of Military Sciences.

    “Thus, we should expect a morale boost among Russian soldiers. Many people at the front will receive this news with obvious joy. The feat of their comrades in arms will inspire them to new achievements, negating any fears of the vaunted Western technology,” he notes.

    “Secondly, what happened is also a huge achievement of the Russian military-industrial complex. Formally, the T-72BZ tank belongs to an older generation than the Abrams. However, this did not stop him from not only fighting on equal terms, but also eliminating the enemy’s vehicle,” the interlocutor emphasizes.

    “We have once again shown the whole world that our engineering school has no equal. The success of the designers and the high professionalism of the crew made it possible to achieve brilliant results at the front. The tank was hit with the most accurate strike, from which there was no chance to recover,” the expert clarifies.

    “The liquidation of Abrams will in some ways have a sobering effect on Western countries and the United States in particular. Now, before sending the next batch of supposedly invincible equipment to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they will think twice about the consequences of this decision, because their engineering prestige will also be at stake,” sums up Bartosh.

    Earlier, the T-72BZ crew destroyed an Abrams tank. This was reported in the official Telegram channel of the Ministry of Defense. It is emphasized that the team defeated the enemy from the first shot. The liquidation of the American car took place in the Avdeevsky direction.

    The Russian military managed to knock out Abrams before. Thus, at the end of February, soldiers of the Russian Armed Forces destroyed a tank using an FVP drone. Experts noted that this event signifies a radical change in the international community’s perception of the products of the American military-industrial complex. In particular, it was indicated that Western tanks do not have turret protection and are also not equipped with anti-drone capabilities.

    Later, the Center military groups reported the destruction of another Abrams. The car was also destroyed using a drone. “We were flying and saw a column of smoke, the tank was moving at medium speed. At first they didn’t understand what kind of technology it was. When we got closer, we made sure what kind of tank it was. They hit him closer to the tower from above. Then, when they reviewed the material, they became convinced that it was another Abrams,” said a military man who took part in the strike.

    The third tank was destroyed on Monday near the village of Berdychi. Against this background, the head of the DPR Denis Pushilin said that the Ukrainian command overestimated the effectiveness of Abrams. In his opinion, the machine still poses a certain danger, but the Russian Armed Forces have repeatedly demonstrated the ability to withstand such challenges.

    https://vz.ru/news/2024/3/6/1256830.html

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    Post  Scorpius Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:10 pm

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    Statement by the head of the press center of the Zapad group
    In the Kupyansk direction, units of the "Western" group of troops improved the tactical situation and defeated the manpower and equipment of the 14th mechanized, 25th Airborne, 68th Jaeger brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the 12th Brigade of the National Guard of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Novoselovka, Serebryanka of the Donetsk People's Republic and Sverdlovsk of the Luhansk People's Republic The Republic.
    In addition, three counterattacks of the 32nd mechanized and 57th motorized Infantry brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were reflected in the areas of the settlements of Sinkovka, Kharkiv region and Terny, Donetsk People's Republic.
    The enemy's losses amounted to 165 soldiers, a tank and three vehicles.
    During the counter-battery struggle, three Polish-made Krab self-propelled artillery units, as well as an M198 howitzer made in the USA, were hit.
    https://t.me/mod_russia/36345

    Statement by the senior officer of the press center of the "Southern" group
    In the Donetsk direction, units of the "Southern" group of troops, conducting active hostilities, occupied more advantageous positions along the front edge, defeated formations of the 5th, 92nd assault, 22nd, 28th and 54th mechanized, as well as the 56th motorized infantry brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas the settlements of Bogdanovka, Kleshcheyevka, Andreevka, Zakotnoye and Pershe Travnya of the Donetsk People's Republic.
    In the areas of the settlements of Novomikhailovka and Pobeda of the Donetsk People's Republic, two counterattacks of the 31st and 33rd mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were reflected.
    The enemy's losses amounted to 260 soldiers, two tanks, two armored personnel carriers, two armored combat vehicles, 14 vehicles, an Msta-B howitzer and two self-propelled artillery installations "Gvozdika". Three APU ammunition depots were also destroyed.
    https://t.me/mod_russia/36346

    Statement by the head of the press center of the Center group
    ▫ In the Avdiivka direction, units of the Center group of troops, as a result of coordinated actions, took more advantageous positions and positions.
    They inflicted fire damage on the manpower and equipment of the 23rd, 42nd, 47th, 53rd, 61st, 92nd mechanized and 59th motorized infantry brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Novopokrovskoye, Ocheretino, Novoselovka I and Toretsk of the Donetsk People's Republic.
    In addition, three attacks by assault groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of settlements were repelled, as well as nine counterattacks in the areas of the settlements of Berdych, Tonenke, Pervomaiske, Orlovka and Vodiane of the Donetsk People's Republic.
    The enemy lost up to 460 servicemen, two tanks, one of them "Abrams" made by the United States was destroyed by the crew of the T-72 B3 tank with the first shot, a self-propelled fire launcher of the Buk anti-aircraft missile system, four infantry fighting vehicles, two armored combat vehicles and five cars.
    During the counter-battery struggle, the following were hit: the Msta-B howitzer, two M119 howitzers manufactured in the USA, the HIMARS multiple rocket launcher combat vehicle manufactured in the USA, as well as the AN/TPQ-50 counter-battery radar station manufactured in the USA.
    https://t.me/mod_russia/36347

    Statement by the head of the Vostok group's press center
    In the South Donetsk direction, units of the Vostok group of troops, as a result of active actions, improved the tactical situation and inflicted fire damage on enemy personnel and equipment in the areas of the settlements of Mirnoye and Ugledar of the Donetsk People's Republic.
    The losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to 210 servicemen, two tanks, three vehicles, a launcher of the Strela-10 anti-aircraft missile system, as well as an ammunition depot.
    https://t.me/mod_russia/36348

    Statement by the head of the press center of the Dnepr group
    In the Kherson direction, units of the Dnepr group of troops defeated the manpower and equipment of the 118th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the 126th Brigade of the Air Defense and the 23rd brigade of the National Guard in the areas of the settlements of Workino, Verbovoye, Zaporizhia region, Tokarevka, Sadovoye, Kherson region and Verkhovetarasovka, Dnipropetrovsk region.
    The enemy's losses amounted to up to 30 soldiers and two vehicles.
    https://t.me/mod_russia/36349


    At 11.40 Moscow time, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation launched a high-precision missile attack on a hangar in the industrial port district of Odessa, where preparations were underway for the combat use of unmanned boats of the armed forces of Ukraine.

    The target of the strike has been achieved. The object is hit.
    https://t.me/mod_russia/36356

    ...This is the news at the ONE day, my little disgruntled princesses. But of course, this is all minor bullshit compared to the defeat of an entire patrol ship of the Black Sea Fleet, isn't it?

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:26 pm

    ... but .... but ... but ... they have sink a boat .... but ... cry

    clown

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:32 pm

    Everyone knows Ukrainian defenses are collapsing

    That's not news

    Ukraine can't hold any of its positions

    As soon as they counterattack in one direction the Russian army just takes them on in another

    Look at the losses in Verbove today, Krasnogorovka, Belogorovka, Sinkovka, Novomikhailovka

    Russia is rolling in all directions

    The whole internet is following that

    They're just sending the remaining western equipment to Berdychy to try to stop the onslaught but once they're out of remaining tanks and Bradley's of the 47th , Russia will just roll up the remaining settlements in that direction

    Anyway after Semyonovka line They will pivot to Ocheretino

    We are all following this

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:45 pm

    ... so just realize, that having perfectly no chances on the serious battleground, all the assets of NATO are being thrown to gain irrelevant, medial peremogas.
    And you are the one who is making them loud.
    Well, one of them.

    If Russia, China and Iran would join the Houties, with recon and tools, not a single western oriented hull out there would survive a day. Warships including.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:54 pm

    Supposedly, Russian long-range UAVs were actually monitoring Zelensky up close in Odessa today, and didn't target him, just observed.

    Well, when he's been visiting the east he's been within range of multiple Russian tactical precision munitions, they could have offed him easily. The Russians have quite obviously simply refrained from killing him, much like how Russia hasn't even struck a single government building in Kiev even though they obviously could at any given moment level the govt quarters and wipe out all kinds of people, ministers, deputies etc.

    However, the Russians did strike a port facility in Odessa a little while later, saying it was where a semi-submersible drone attack was being prepared. Makes me wonder if Zelensky actually led them there, so to speak. He was supposed to award some people, presumably for the drone strike on that patrol boat, so that doesn't sound far-fetched.



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    Post  ALAMO Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:57 pm

    He is the best asset Russkie have there.
    Why to kill it?

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    Post  nomadski Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:32 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Russia hasn't even struck a single government building in Kiev even though they obviously could at any given moment level the govt quarters and wipe out all kinds of people, ministers, deputies etc.


    True . Forget Jellinsky , being the useful idiot . How about the rest of the Orcs ? Are they all useful ( idiots ) ? Sure they get replaced , taking orders from NATO, but the disruption in command is worth it .


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:38 pm

    Alamo wrote:... so just realize, that having perfectly no chances on the serious battleground, all the assets of NATO are being thrown to gain irrelevant, medial peremogas.
    And you are the one who is making them loud.
    Well, one of them.

    Idiot hohols will celebrate a peremoga with each zrada

    I give a shit about lunatic Ukrainians

    I just want a well equipped VMF

    By no means is that a merit of Ukraine at all

    Using a P8 Poseidon to guide a swarm of USV against an unarmed patrol ship is not a feat at all

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:39 pm

    BTW can someone tell me where I can find the picture of quad packed 9m100 on redut?

    I remember someone posted, but i can't find it anymore
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    Post  ALAMO Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:49 pm

    I just want a well equipped VMF

    But they ARE well equipped, and only getting better.
    The performance gap started to look crazy old time ago.
    You have "west" navies with boats armed less for double displacement.
    Type 45 destroyer turned out castrated of ANY land attack missiles ... but hey, how had they sold that?!?
    It has a GYM instead!

    A FUKIN' GYM Laughing Laughing Laughing

    22160 is an oversized for endurance coastal guard boat - because it is the bulk of a tasks that any navy does.
    Is it optimal now? No.
    That is why they won't build them anymore.
    Did it work as planned? scratch
    A trick question - was never put in a designed role, for a clear reason.
    Operated for 2 years? Yes.
    Killed numerous drones - which was it task? Yes.
    Picketed them - which was it task? Yes.
    What is the issue here? scratch

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    Post  Airbornewolf Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:58 pm

    An crewmember of the Tsezar Kunikov released footage of its crew fighting against the drones.

    Appearantly there is trashtalk about them about back home so he released it.

    Text that accompanied his post:

    "The crew of the large landing craft repelled the attack of the BECs with all available forces and means, the battle lasted 20 minutes.
    Of the 10 BECs, 4 were destroyed. The 5th BEC hit the Central Committee BDK in the stern, thereby immobilizing the ship, after which 6,7,8,9, BECs in turn, hit the BDK on the port side in the midship area (middle) and closer to the stern, with the purpose of capsizing the vessel (from the entry of a large amount of water from one side).
    The 9th BEC partially entered the hole made by the previous BEC and detonated almost inside.
    The BDK could no longer be saved (the list was rapidly increasing, the ship was lying on the left side).
    From the moment the enemy BECs were discovered and the start of the battle, until the BDK was completely flooded, a little more than 40 minutes passed.
    The crew of the BDK left the ship on life rafts, without loss of personnel, and evacuated all secret documentation and part of the secret equipment with weapons.
    The last 10th BEC conducted observation (recording) of the dying ship until the sinking, after which the 10th BEC tried to attack the tug accompanying the BDK Caesar Kunikov, but was destroyed by the PDSS group on board."

    At the moment, the crew are being made into cowards and scoundrels.

    Personally, I saw the clear work of the team working until the last minute.
    The crew, I think, at a minimum, deserves not to be made into villains."

    RF landing ship Tsezar Kunikov fighting against drones

    https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/RF-landing-ship-Caesar-Kunikov-fighting-against-drones:1

    Also, more RBK-500 with glide kits striking ukrainian positions.

    https://odysee.com/@airbornewolf:8/RF-RBK-500-guided-glide-bombs-strike-ukrainian-positions-in-avdiivka:f

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    Post  sepheronx Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:19 pm

    The Ukies and Brits sent 10 of them against 1 small patrol ship that's lightly armed. Yemen need to learn a thing or two rather than send like 3 in their "wave" attacks. But I assume it's because they don't want to sink the US or British ships otherwise it may lead to bigger war. I don't know.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Mar 06, 2024 8:32 pm

    Water and blanket worked then ...

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