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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #50
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Eugenio Argentina Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:23 am
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Arkanghelsk Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:41 am
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Keep an eye on the south as well.
NATO ISR is the problem as I mentioned, not much can be done realistically speaking, best to learn how to work under it and this is not new. Ukrainians idiocity was best Russian ISR in their counter offense.
And after Donbass, in my opinion Russia can put this into slow burner and let war production do its work. Anyway, in my opinion, Ukrainians will have an option to suicide against Russia or negotiate, because after this counter offence, they can’t expect much. Their whole shtick is now hoping on F-16…
In the south, advancing by Optyne is a diversionary advance, which only forces Ukrainians to have to man those sections of the front
The main push, where storm Z and Wagner will enter, is south west of the terrikon
They need Stepove, that's why they lost so many tanks to take it
Once they get in, they can cutoff MSR by fire
It will be a tough battle, which will cost thousands of lives to take it
But this is the cost of such an inept leadership, with such an approach to the war
They're literally sandbox testing urban assault, from Mariupol, Bakhmut, Lisichansk, Severodonetsk, Soledar to Avdeyevka
This is how fucked up it is, the men who were in Bakhmut, suffered tremendously from the scale of battle
And what will it be here? Any different?
No, instead of protecting ours, and leveling the nazis like Israelis are doing
Ours will storm a fortefied coke plant, with nothing but a pat on the back, and congratulatory postings
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #50
Airbornewolf Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:16 am
Arkanghelsk wrote:Regular wrote:
Keep an eye on the south as well.
NATO ISR is the problem as I mentioned, not much can be done realistically speaking, best to learn how to work under it and this is not new. Ukrainians idiocity was best Russian ISR in their counter offense.
And after Donbass, in my opinion Russia can put this into slow burner and let war production do its work. Anyway, in my opinion, Ukrainians will have an option to suicide against Russia or negotiate, because after this counter offence, they can’t expect much. Their whole shtick is now hoping on F-16…
In the south, advancing by Optyne is a diversionary advance, which only forces Ukrainians to have to man those sections of the front
The main push, where storm Z and Wagner will enter, is south west of the terrikon
They need Stepove, that's why they lost so many tanks to take it
Once they get in, they can cutoff MSR by fire
It will be a tough battle, which will cost thousands of lives to take it
But this is the cost of such an inept leadership, with such an approach to the war
They're literally sandbox testing urban assault, from Mariupol, Bakhmut, Lisichansk, Severodonetsk, Soledar to Avdeyevka
This is how fucked up it is, the men who were in Bakhmut, suffered tremendously from the scale of battle
And what will it be here? Any different?
No, instead of protecting ours, and leveling the nazis like Israelis are doing
Ours will storm a fortefied coke plant, with nothing but a pat on the back, and congratulatory postings
newsflash buddy, your army does not want anything to do with genocidal bastards down in the Middle East.
also, good for you you became an expert on assault tactics. when can we expect you leading the assaults?.
To have talk like that, usually it is based on experience.
So, you have any experience in the army?. in combat roles or you just like to talk fancy around here Private Hudson?
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Took a break from the "smo" for a few months and I see nothing of note has happened, Russia still employing ww1 tactics and unable to liberate even donbass, Ukronazis still conducting bonzai attacks...
Might take a 12 month break this time around, but doubt anything will change unless Cuctin does indeed have a heart attack and someone who isnt content with fighting the Ukronazis to a stalemate takes over and actually wants to win this thing...
Might take a 12 month break this time around, but doubt anything will change unless Cuctin does indeed have a heart attack and someone who isnt content with fighting the Ukronazis to a stalemate takes over and actually wants to win this thing...
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Airbornewolf wrote:
newsflash buddy, your army does not want anything to do with genocidal bastards down in the Middle East.
also, good for you you became an expert on assault tactics. when can we expect you leading the assaults?.
To have talk like that, usually it is based on experience.
So, you have any experience in the army?. in combat roles or you just like to talk fancy around here Private Hudson?
He admitted of having none. He relies entirely on "knowledge" from certain telegram and Twitter groups. Judging how he posts, he never hear half the locations before hand like most of us. But besides yourself and a few others, rest if us don't profess to be professionals.
But hey, the best soldier and general is one who didn't serve. Arkh can resolve this situation in a single day. And, he doesn't need intel groups because he will rely entirely on telegram, reddit, X, 4chan and others. Because they know better, right?
Serberus wrote:Took a break from the "smo" for a few months and I see nothing of note has happened, Russia still employing ww1 tactics and unable to liberate even donbass, Ukronazis still conducting bonzai attacks...
Might take a 12 month break this time around, but doubt anything will change unless Cuctin does indeed have a heart attack and someone who isnt content with fighting the Ukronazis to a stalemate takes over and actually wants to win this thing...
Except, dumbass, is that Ukraine has like 500K dead and their entire counter offensive of Ukraine has ended up with more lost territory.
Don't you have to go surrender or something already?
Garry, why do we keep people with room temp IQ here again? They provide not even 1 iota bit of benefit besides flooding the thread with their professional and experienced opinion on how they are tacticians and diplomats
Eugenio Argentina wrote:Some social media accounts are spreading rumors about Putin's heart attack.
So?
And like all previous times claims and about others like Kadyrov, they end up making themselves stupid and unreliable. Well, for everyone else besides Serberus, Arkh, Karl, Ubermench guy and other professionals.
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Some social media accounts are spreading rumors about Putin's heart attack.
That is really going to effect his cancer treatment and make his Parkinsons disease much much worse...
Took a break from the "smo" for a few months and I see nothing of note has happened, Russia still employing ww1 tactics and unable to liberate even donbass, Ukronazis still conducting bonzai attacks...
We enjoyed the break... thank you.
Not much has changed because not much needed to change... Russians still killing Ukrainians, but funding and support for Kiev is being distracted and diluted and the western support for Ukraine and western support for Israel is making them look like the hypocrites that they are... which is going to further erode their support because they were essentially only getting support from the west and now western critics are popping up wondering why the west thinks damaging Russia and actually making it a real enemy is in western interests at all.
(hint it isn't, but that ship has sailed...)
The point is that this fight is also damaging the west and making western companies... ie parasites that have been feasting on Russian money and resources for the last 20 years pack up and leave... this is a good thing for the Russian economy and culture and for the future of BRICS in general.
The more this divides Russia and the west the better it is for Russia.
If the war ended tomorrow you can bet the Europeans would want to come back to the Russian market and return to making good money and extracting it out of the Russian economy and injecting it into their own pockets overnight.
Russia wins when Kievs forces are crushed... it might take another 12 months... the alternative is a repeat of 2014 and a delay of 5 years while they build up their forces and their fake country economy and have another go at Russia and even more Russians will die and possibly fewer Kiev supporters will die.
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Eugenio Argentina wrote:Some social media accounts are spreading rumors about Putin's heart attack.
He's a very sick man, COVID, Cancer, Syphilis, Bubonic Plague, AIDS, two diseases doctors discovered in just him, heart disease, fibromyalgia. Well here let me explain. This door is Putin. These novelty diseases are all the diseases he has. As you can see they all counteract each other. What I am saying is he is virtually indestructable
With apologies to the Simpsons episode where Burns goes to the hospital
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Dr.Snufflebug wrote:We gotta talk about the FOAB, guys. It exists, or at least it did, but:
1. There is to my knowledge only one single reel of footage of it, and that was more than a decade ago.
2. The footage clearly shows an incredibly powerful thermobaric charge, and its aftermath, no questions there.
3. ...But the footage is dodgy for other reasons: the hideously unaerodynamic contraption shown clearly rolls out of the cargo compartment of an airlifter á la Antonov or Ilyushin (pretty much like the U.S. MOAB, rolls out of a C-130), but the footage inexplicably cuts to a Tu-160, as if to suggest that it was adapted to the bomb bay there. No, nothing actually supports that.
Tu-160's have been exclusively fitted with revolving ALCM compartments for ages, like the Tu-95s. These planes haven't dropped a bomb for 20+ years. The Tu-22M still has regular bomb bays that can take anything from FAB-100 to FAB-9000, but again, nothing has ever indicated that the "FOAB" contraption was ever properly weaponized to be compatible.
I am open to surprises though. Hit me.
I don't think they have shown any actual bomb, just the explosion.
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The FOABs is likely being kept secret so that it is useful.
The rotary launchers for cruise missiles on the Tu-160 can be removed if needed leaving plenty of space for other items most likely including at least one FOAB in each weapon bay.
The Bear is not a bomber and AFAIK the Tu-160 isn't a bomber any more either... both carry standoff missiles of various types.
The Backfire is the theatre bomber and the PAK DA is to replace both the Backfire and the Bear suggesting it will be the bomber moving forward.
Remember how effective shock an awe was for the Americans?
No. I don't either.
It was just a chance for them to show off and really meant nothing at all.
If they find an active bio weapons lab that they need to take out quickly then an FOAB might be useful but with most targets conventional bombs with glide kits will do just fine.
I seem to remember the Tu-16 needing to be used in Afghanistan for FAB-9000 testing because the external weapon hard points on the Tu-22M are limited to FAB-5000s and the FAB-9000 is too fat to fit inside the Tu-22M3. The Tu-16s weapon bay being huge to allow early model nuclear weapons to be carried which were enormous.
Such big bombs are really only useful against hardened targets... area targets are more effectively defeated with a huge number of smaller bombs.
FOAB is a thermobaric bomb optimised to defeat areas with potential bio or chemical contamination.
It is a very specialised weapon that is not as much use as some people seem to imagine.
The rotary launchers for cruise missiles on the Tu-160 can be removed if needed leaving plenty of space for other items most likely including at least one FOAB in each weapon bay.
The Bear is not a bomber and AFAIK the Tu-160 isn't a bomber any more either... both carry standoff missiles of various types.
The Backfire is the theatre bomber and the PAK DA is to replace both the Backfire and the Bear suggesting it will be the bomber moving forward.
Remember how effective shock an awe was for the Americans?
No. I don't either.
It was just a chance for them to show off and really meant nothing at all.
If they find an active bio weapons lab that they need to take out quickly then an FOAB might be useful but with most targets conventional bombs with glide kits will do just fine.
I seem to remember the Tu-16 needing to be used in Afghanistan for FAB-9000 testing because the external weapon hard points on the Tu-22M are limited to FAB-5000s and the FAB-9000 is too fat to fit inside the Tu-22M3. The Tu-16s weapon bay being huge to allow early model nuclear weapons to be carried which were enormous.
Such big bombs are really only useful against hardened targets... area targets are more effectively defeated with a huge number of smaller bombs.
FOAB is a thermobaric bomb optimised to defeat areas with potential bio or chemical contamination.
It is a very specialised weapon that is not as much use as some people seem to imagine.
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A very hard life beckons for this evil bastard. Good that he didn't meet a quick end with a bullet or shell.
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That is the designation of an obese american tank.Does anyone have information on the M1 Abrams?
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Eugenio Argentina Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:40 pm
Hole wrote:That is the designation of an obese american tank.Does anyone have information on the M1 Abrams?
I meant, if they were seen in Ukraine, since until a few weeks ago, they said that they had arrived there to fight.
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Ukrainians in the South are getting railed, if it will give in, it won't just diversionary advance.Arkanghelsk wrote:
In the south, advancing by Optyne is a diversionary advance, which only forces Ukrainians to have to man those sections of the front
Wagner? Am I missing their return? ORBAT is posted by franco. Terrikon was taken mostly by 110 and finally by 114th.The main push, where storm Z and Wagner will enter, is south west of the terrikon
https://www.russiadefence.net/t8990-russian-orbat-in-the-so
They need Stepove, that's why they lost so many tanks to take it
Pretty much
Once they get in, they can cutoff MSR by fire
It will be a tough battle, which will cost thousands of lives to take it
Yes, it can take months.
But this is the cost of such an inept leadership, with such an approach to the war
You fight with what you have, for me, leadership doesn't look like a main culprit. Russia can't fight any other way. Same as Ukraine couldn't fight other way in their counter-offensive.
They're literally sandbox testing urban assault, from Mariupol, Bakhmut, Lisichansk, Severodonetsk, Soledar to Avdeyevka
There are a couple of differences now that make it a bit different and could play important role.
This is how fucked up it is, the men who were in Bakhmut, suffered tremendously from the scale of battle
War is hell, nothing works, no plans are perfect, and people die in thousands and in stupid ways. Absolute chaos. Harden your heart for now.
And what will it be here? Any different?
All things considered, hopefully.
Will probably be done later. Unlike in Gaza, there are few civilians there.No, instead of protecting ours, and leveling the nazis like Israelis are doing
Ours will storm a fortefied coke plant, with nothing but a pat on the back, and congratulatory postings
Bombing it to the ground is an option too, we will see.
Eugenio Argentina wrote:Hole wrote:That is the designation of an obese american tank.Does anyone have information on the M1 Abrams?
I meant, if they were seen in Ukraine, since until a few weeks ago, they said that they had arrived there to fight.
What's there to know? We don't know who will be getting them, this depends were we see them fight.
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GunshipDemocracy Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:50 pm
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So, you have any experience in the army?. in combat roles or you just like to talk fancy around here Private Hudson?
so do you need one ro what ?!
Somehow I cannot find this post i believe was on anna news yesterday - 2 ukro soldiers were shooting tik tok vid with destroyed tech behind...they were both taken down by Russian snipers.
conclusion: social media an war dont mix together irl
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The fascination with the FOAB is excessive. A fuel-air mixture explosive is not going to be compact for a high explosive yield like a nuke.
It is a cistern of liquid fuel that is designed to aerosolize before ignition. There is not a vast range of liquid density for any chemical
fuel that can be devised. You are never going to have some magical fuel that has 10 times less volume with the same yield.
Of course, thermobaric devices are useful, but they are not nuke replacements.
It is a cistern of liquid fuel that is designed to aerosolize before ignition. There is not a vast range of liquid density for any chemical
fuel that can be devised. You are never going to have some magical fuel that has 10 times less volume with the same yield.
Of course, thermobaric devices are useful, but they are not nuke replacements.
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Social media is clearly effective for spreading propaganda. So in this sense it mixes with war quite well. But in terms of objective
information, social media is a blend of shit and sugar.
information, social media is a blend of shit and sugar.
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I know.I meant, if they were seen in Ukraine, since until a few weeks ago, they said that they had arrived there to fight.
Well, according even to western publications the M1 will arrive too late and will change nothing.
Which means propably that the Biden regime gave orders only to use the tank well behind the frontlines.
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Arkanghelsk Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:24 pm
Only God could be such a photographer
System Pronebo for confirmation of GLONASS and GPS signals in jammed environment
Terrikon is ours
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Pretty certain.Hole wrote:I know.I meant, if they were seen in Ukraine, since until a few weeks ago, they said that they had arrived there to fight.
Well, according even to western publications the M1 will arrive too late and will change nothing.
Which means propably that the Biden regime gave orders only to use the tank well behind the frontlines.
They saw what happened to the UK Challengers, which confirmed their concerns about the PR effect of the M1 being on the front.
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What a terrible hill to have to fight your way up.
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Arkanghelsk Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:13 pm
JohninMK wrote:What a terrible hill to have to fight your way up
Not only, the video footage reveals that Ukrainians were burrowing into small tunnels
In the vid you can see many of them
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