2023 Israel–Hamas war

nomadski wrote:



I think Israel about to launch ground offensives . The BBC reports that " almost a million Palestinians have left northern Gaza , " And this " fact " is hard to establish , in the absence of any evidence : showing  a few stragglers with mattresses on their cars , travelling ! This means that the English Zionazis , who work hand in glove , with Israelis , will not report on mass civilian casualties , since " almost a million have left already . " This is in direct contrast to actual reports from interviews by Gazans , saying " we can not go anywhere , nowhere is safe , even a truck full of civilians , was deliberately targeted by Israelis ! " Hold on to your hats , it is going to be bloody indeed !

 

I guess the western media is participating here to encourage the Palestinians to shift back from Northern Gaza .

Israel wants to split Gaza and push the people more near to the Egyptian borders .

And targeting that  truck full of civilians proves that Israel is a Nazi state , interesting that west now is supporting Nazis everywhere from Ukraine to Israel .

They said it clearly , they want Gaza people in Sinai .

Former Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister

Maybe it has something to do with the higher ambient temperatures in the ME?

You'd think a simple power bank would do the job without much problem...

Once activated, it lasted for about 30s which was sometimes not enough to execute a start sequence properly. Not to mention you had just one chance, and after that the battery was to be replaced. Evry operator has spare batteries in his backpack, usually 3 of them.

Modern power banks can run air compressors to pump up your cars tires and start a car... you would think they could power a missile for more that 30 seconds... and they are rechargeable.

Some observations : First it makes no sense for Zionist forces to launch ground offensives in the North of Gaza . Since Egypt remains the supply route for Gazans .

If it works then the next step will to declare south of gaza as a place they have to leave and then stop them from ever returning... mission accomplished.

The wreckage shown in the photo is not anything like the CH-53 in the video. It is a much smaller helicopter with a different tail structure.

Have to say when I saw the wreckage photo I thought Blackhawk rather than stallion or super stallion.

That Israel created Hamas is an invention of Western analysts.
Hamas emerged as a response to Israeli oppression and the PLO's lack of combativity.

Germany let Lenin live in Germany and go back to Russia in the hopes that he would remove Russia from the war, which is essentially what he did, so in a sense they helped create the Soviet Union but didn't really support the Soviet state after Hitler gained power in 1933.

Israel might have encouraged the creation of Hamas as a more palatable alternative to the PLO but they are hardly friends.

A bit like the US using China against the Soviets to try to defeat communism... communism in the SU was defeated but continues strong in China who are now the problem it seems.

Conspiracy theories don't add much except confusion. Neither the USA nor Israel needed excuses to attack other countries or repress the people.
It is enough to look at history to realize the dozens of conflicts in which these two countries participated.
Even before Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah or any other organization existed.

The west is happy to use any group or organisation that might be useful to them at the time... ideology really does not come in to it... the entire west was happy to call communist Soviet Union and communist China friend when it was useful.... WWII and the cold war respectively, but it was equally happy to embrace Nazism when WWII ended and those west germans seemed useful to make space rockets and create chaos in the Ukraine during and after the cold war.

The west would be happy to use Afghan radicals to fight the Soviets and kill the very same people when they occupied the country. Kurds and various other groups are used when needed... to steal Syrian oil or Iraqi oil or Libyan oil etc etc...

When the music stops make sure you have a chair.

So to say that the Muslim Brotherhood is a creation of the United States is not only false and naive but an anachronism, typical of those who "analyze" history, only through the Internet or through Hollywood movies.

The west will use anyone when it suits.

Saddam was their best friend supplying oil to the west and then fighting the hated Iranians in the 70s and 80s, but the risk of a monopoly when he invaded Kuwait and they thought he might continue to Saudi Arabia and he had to go.

The media climate is so insane right now that the Israeli military can kill a major media outlet’s videographer, & their own statement on it won’t tell you who did it

So that was essentially an own goal right there... reuters is a western propaganda machine... bought quite some time ago.

is a great pretext

They need no pretext. They buried the 2-state solution more than 20 years ago.

The storming of the Al-Aqsa mosque was the start. Nazinyahoo was under immense pressure
so he wanted a little conflict to get the protests off his back. He thought Hamas would shoot
a few hundred rockets over the fence and that´s it. A few days of low intensity bombing and
he would be seen as the great leader again. But this time the Palestinian resistance didn´t stay
on their side of the fence.

the occupied Lebanese Shebaa Farms: Al-Radar,

Al-Radar was propably hit by an anti-radar missile.

Israel wants to split Gaza and push the people more near to the Egyptian borders .

The plan for the final solution is propably to open fire at civilians after they have been concentrated
along the border of Egypt and either kill them or let them run into the border fence. Then Egypt will
be blamed for the civilian casualties if Sisi rejects to open the border.

supporting Nazis everywhere from Ukraine to Israel .

Yeah, some low level german politicians were stating that we have to support Israel, but shouldn´t forget
the poor "Ukrainians". You know, the grand children of the people that helped us Germans to kill a lot of
Russians, Poles and Jews. But they don´t realize the shit they are talking.

that the Palestinian civilian population have collective guilt.

Which means that the Israelis have collective guilt, too. So much for talking about poor innocent civilians
that were killed by Hamas.

And Hamas came to power in democtratic elections. But how would a western politicians know what a
democtratic election is.

ahmedfire wrote:
Egypt refused to let the Americans and rest of foreigners to leave Gaza through Rafah crossing .

Egypt insisted that the deal must includes the delivering of humanitarian aid to Gaza .

Good, i didn't expect that move.

Egyptians are not stupid. They are not going to allow a humanitarian crisis in their country due to Israel's ambitions. Furthermore, the Egyptian intelligence service had warned the Jews and they did not care.
Now take charge. If they commit a genocide of 2 million people, let it be in front of the eyes of the world.

@AryJeay
Al-Qassem published a video showcasing how they took over 3 israeli tanks, and took their operators & soldiers as prisoners, and swiftly disappeared into tunnels.
This video is dubbed as, “This is what awaits you when you enter Gaza”

Hezbollah tactics made by Hamas, IDF mass murderers are fucked

ahmedfire wrote:And targeting that  truck full of civilians proves that Israel is a Nazi state , interesting that west now is supporting Nazis everywhere  from Ukraine to Israel .

You have no idea what you are talking about:


https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/doomed-children-of-zamosc-deportations-began-78-years-ago-today-17947



Up to now Israel was easy on the Palestinians.

Egyptians are not stupid. They are not going to allow a humanitarian crisis in their country due to Israel's ambitions. Furthermore, the Egyptian intelligence service had warned the Jews and they did not care.
Now take charge. If they commit a genocide of 2 million people, let it be in front of the eyes of the world.

It's not about taking refugees or humanitarian crisis , Egypt already has more than 8 million foreigners who most of them came due to unstable situation on their countries .

But this time is different , taking the people from Gaza to Egypt means a checkmate for the Palestinian state .

Apparently the Zionist transport helicopter got hit by the third manpad launch.



Let's hope Zionist losses will deter them from continuing their attacks on Gaza and send Netanjahu into jail.
Alexander Mercouris is saying that Brics states like Iran will only observe the seemingly scripted events in the coming days/weeks. Instead they will make their move, if Israel gets bogged down in Gaza.

Israel is not a Nazi state since National Socialism warned about the consequences of giving control to the Jews. The Nazis fought to prevent this fate of humanity at the hands of Israel and pro-Jewish elites. Israel is a genocidal state of its own accord. Don't blame Hitler, you progressive idiot

Odin of Ossetia wrote:

ahmedfire wrote:And targeting that  truck full of civilians proves that Israel is a Nazi state , interesting that west now is supporting Nazis everywhere  from Ukraine to Israel .

You have no idea what you are talking about:


https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/doomed-children-of-zamosc-deportations-began-78-years-ago-today-17947



Up to now Israel was easy on the Palestinians.

Nazism is a way of thinking like beliefing in racial hierarchy and gaining new territories for enhancing the natural resources and power .

Israel is doing both .

If the German Nazis were so good, for what were these ethnic Poles deserving of such treatment?


https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/doomed-children-of-zamosc-deportations-began-78-years-ago-today-17947

Eugenio Argentina wrote:

kvs wrote:Hamas is a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood which is a pure US-Israeli proxy.    The 2011 "Arab spring" was engineered colour revolution.    The typical NATzO tools of "dissident" youth movements driving street protest theatre followed by militants was engaged.   As in Ukria.  

It is obvious that the Hamas attack is a great pretext for Israel to finish off the two state solution.    They are clearly pushing for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza and will ramp up their settler land grabs in the West Bank.   The world has to cry for Israeli suffering and look the other way as vastly more Palestinian civilians get butchered to placate Israeli "suffering".    The 3000 people who died in the 911 attack at the hands of the US's Al Qaeda proxies served the same purpose as the 1200 Israelis who died at the hands of Israel's Hamas proxies.  

Note that the evil west accuses Russia of doing what it does itself.   So we had the cockamamie claim that Russia staged the August 1999 apartment bombings as a pretext to invade Chechnya.   As if the 700 people killed by the NATzO sponsored Chechen warlords during their invasion of Russia in Daghestan earlier in the year was not any sort of valid pretext.   Imagine if militants from Mexico invaded a part of the US and the US would just sit back and do nothing because that was not enough pretext.   The filthy, lying west and all of its verminous supporters can all go and get f*cked.

It is not at all obvious, since no evidence is provided for these assertions.
Apart from that, Hamas emerged in the 1980s, with that name, but its antecedents date back to the 1970s with organizations created at that time by Sheikh Ahmed Yasin, who founded Hamas in 1987 and who was assassinated by Israel on March 22, 2004.

Many of these "terrorist" groups were indeed CIA creations but just like Al Qaeda it usually comes back to haunt them.

kvs wrote:The wreckage shown in the photo is not anything like the CH-53 in the video.    It is a much smaller helicopter with a different tail structure.

So, was there a shoot-down or is this claim BS?

It's a CH-53 for sure but only a small part remains recognizable. You can see the six main rotor blades and the tail section is clearly that of a CH-53.

ahmedfire wrote:

Odin of Ossetia wrote:

ahmedfire wrote:And targeting that  truck full of civilians proves that Israel is a Nazi state , interesting that west now is supporting Nazis everywhere  from Ukraine to Israel .

You have no idea what you are talking about:


https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/doomed-children-of-zamosc-deportations-began-78-years-ago-today-17947



Up to now Israel was easy on the Palestinians.

Nazism is a way of thinking like beliefing in racial hierarchy and gaining new territories for enhancing the natural resources and power .

Israel is doing both .

The racial hierarchy was created by imperialism (at the hands of England) long before Nazism. Nowadays, the woke ideology makes it saying that you should give your daughter to a dark-skinned man because the white race is bad by nature.

Odin of Ossetia wrote:

If the German Nazis were so good, for what were these ethnic Poles deserving of such treatment?


https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/doomed-children-of-zamosc-deportations-began-78-years-ago-today-17947

If you read a text on National Socialism you will see that people and race are synonymous. The Nazis do not speak of superior races but of peoples. In any case, the racial enemy of Nazism is the Jew but it does not say that the Arabs or Asians are inferior and must keep their territories. Bring me a text that says that Arabs, Indians, China or Japan are inferior and I will agree with you.
Nazi expansionism was due to the territorial mutilations of the First World War, recovering what was already theirs. The Poles kept German territory. And I remind you that Stalin's Soviets endorsed the distribution of that territory. The war and invasion against the Soviet Union was due to the strong anti-communism of the Nazis, not because of racial issues. That is false.

Eugenio Argentina wrote:Conspiracy theories don't add much except confusion. Neither the USA nor Israel needed excuses to attack other countries or repress the people.
It is enough to look at history to realize the dozens of conflicts in which these two countries participated.
Even before Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah or any other organization existed.

That is just not true. They always do their obligatory false flags. To us they look stupid an unessesary but that never stops them from doing them.

Atrocity propaganda is a huge part of warfare. Especially for the Anglo empire. It is important to know about them to understand how events unfold.

In case anyone wasn't sure if the music festival was a setup of some kind for propaganda , here's the proof. It is the Bucha of this war. And now we can expect Western politicians to make the pilgramige to the site.