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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  George1 on Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:53 pm

    MOSCOW, December 1. /TASS/. Russia’s Tupolev Aircraft Company has delivered another repaired Tu-22M3 long-range missile-carrying bomber to the country’s Aerospace Force, the Tupolev press office reported on Friday.

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    Post  George1 on Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:22 pm

    Russian MoD has published this image gallery of Long Range Aviation(DA) bombers taking off from Dyagilevo Airbase (ZVO): http://goo.gl/VV8Go6

    Note #Tupolev-22M3 01 Red w/ Kh-32 missile on the RHS pylon, LHS might also be a Kh-32(?) but with somewhat unusual paint scheme.


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    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:51 pm

    The missiles both look the same as far as I can tell
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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  GarryB on Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:57 am

    I seem to remember reading in the mid 2000s that the Kh-22M is no longer in frontline service and that any missiles you see under a Tu-22M3 will be a Kh-32...

    Don't know how factual that is however.

    I seem to remember that there were three main versions of the Kh-22M... one that uses an autopilot to a grid square reference... that one was armed with a nuke warhead and was designed to take out comms centres and command centres etc of fixed location. Another had a radar guidance for large land objects like bridges or large buildings and ships, while the third was an anti radiation missile used against major SAM sites and well defended ships.
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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  George1 on Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:29 am

    Tupolev-22M3M long-range bomber to make first flight in August

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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  GarryB on Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:45 am

    Shame they don't list the upgrades...
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:49 am

    GarryB wrote:Shame they don't list the upgrades...

    They actually did Smile


    in short:
    Crew: 2 pilots
    Engines same as Tu-160M2 - NK-32
    avionics - based on 160M2 (I presume netcentric with new navigation to chase CVBGs)

    Weaposn: Kh-32, Kindzhal, X-50 (scaled down X-101) and Gzur ( Ma-8 missile) both x6 and with range   ~1500 km (this form BMPD)

    Attention: air-frame also will be modified (didn't say to what degree though)
    Build in refueling bar too  russia  russia  russia


    refurbished: 36 units. Not bad to fend off NTO fleet. + 50 Tu-160M2.






    Updated missile carrier Tu-22M3M will receive a rigging Tu-160

    https://rg.ru/2018/04/28/reg-pfo/obnovlennyj-raketonosec-tu-22m3m-poluchit-osnastku-tu-160.html
    The creation of a deeply modernized bomber-missile carrier Tu-22M3M is nearing completion, the head of the Tupolev company Alexander Konyukhov said.

    - On the prototype of a deeply modernized missile carrier, assembly work and preparations for the first take-off are being completed . It is planned for the third quarter of 2018. In the same year, modernization of combat aircraft will begin, "Interfax quotes Konyukhov .

    The updated Tu-22 will receive new, more economical and durable engines, as well as on-board electronics, unified with the "older brother", the strategic missile carrier Tu-160. In particular, the aircraft will have a system of space communications and the ability to receive in-flight target designation - including from mobile sea and land terminals. Given that the main task of the Tu-22 is still hunting for aircraft carriers, the ability to take on-the-fly operational information about their whereabouts will not be superfluous. Another innovation will be the bar for refueling the aircraft in the air - this option will increase the already considerable combat radius of the missile carrier - with new engines the flight range of the Tu-22M3M will be almost 10 thousand kilometers.

    In parallel with the modernization of the aircraft, a new weapon is being developed for him. The upgraded electronics will allow the aircraft to use the Kh-32, Kh-55, Kh-555, Kh-101/102 missiles, and prospective Kh-50, GZUR and Dagger .

    "Modernization will significantly prolong the service life of Tu-22M family aircraft," Konyukhov stressed. According to open sources, Russia has more than 100 aircraft of this type.

    Collecting new cars and modernizing the drill will be in Kazan, where at the Gorbunov Aircraft Plant there are at least four Tu-22 gliders preserved from the Soviet reserve. In addition, the company has accumulated experience in restoring production of Tu-160. The first "White Swan" from the new series  climbed into the sky in early 2018.












    Russia will raise into the sky  a new missile carrier


    The first flight of the upgraded long-range missile carrier Tu-22M3M is scheduled for August 2018, RIA Novosti reported at the Kazan aircraft plant.

    https://rg.ru/2018/04/25/reg-pfo/rossiia-podnimet-v-nebo-novyj-raketonosec.html

    "We intend to lift the Tu-22M3M in the air in August," the company representative said.

    Photo: Grigory Sysoev / RIA Novosti
    Preparation of the Su-57 for the Victory Parade was shot on video
    Deep modernization and the resumption of the mass production of the most massive long-range aircraft was laid in the State Program of Armaments for 2018-2027. The aircraft is updated according to the scheme used for the "older brother" Tu-160: from the old Tu-22M, there is only a glider (and the one is modified).

    Instead of the regular NK-25 engines, the missile carrier will receive the upgraded Tu-160 power units: with a similar thrust, they are more durable and much more economical - the range of the upgraded Tu-22 will grow by one and a half times. The aircraft will receive a retractable bar for refueling in the air and an on-board electronics similar to the Tu-160M2. The crew will be reduced from four to two people.

    In the arsenal of the missile carrier will enter as available weapons of destruction: cruise missiles X-55, X-555, X-32, X-101/102, and prospective: Kindzhal , X-50 and GZUR. The weapons compartment is likely to be enlarged. The aircraft will be equipped with a space link to obtain target coordinates in real time - including from portable land and sea terminals.

    Collect the updated missile carriers and modernize the combat vehicles will be at the Kazan Aircraft Plant named after Gorbunov, where from the Soviet times at least four unfinished gliders have been preserved. The GPV provides for the modernization of 36 combat aircraft, mass production of the Tu-22M3M is planned to be deployed in the mid-1920s at a rate of three or four aircraft per year.
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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  GarryB on Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:50 am

    with new engines the flight range of the Tu-22M3M will be almost 10 thousand kilometers.

    Nice... so a radius of about 5,000km... plus likely more with inflight refuelling that makes them very potent theatre strike aircraft...

    The upgraded electronics will allow the aircraft to use the Kh-32, Kh-55, Kh-555, Kh-101/102 missiles, and prospective Kh-50, GZUR and Dagger .

    Dagger... Kinzhal? Mach 10 2,000km range missile... impressive...

    Collecting new cars and modernizing the drill will be in Kazan, where at the Gorbunov Aircraft Plant there are at least four Tu-22 gliders preserved from the Soviet reserve. In addition, the company has accumulated experience in restoring production of Tu-160. The first "White Swan" from the new series  climbed into the sky in early 2018.

    If they can rebuild the Tu-160 then rebuilding Tu-22M3s would be easy as it is a smaller lighter aircraft...

    The crew will be reduced from four to two people.

    So two pilots makes sense because of long flight times, but it also suggests the issues with navigation and self defence have been fully automated to the point where the extra crew are clearly not needed anymore.

    This is awesome.... the Tu-22M3 has always been an aircraft with huge potential and this upgrade makes it simpler and cheaper and much better to operate...

    Even just unifying the engine so the Backfire and Blackjack have the same 25 ton thrust engine on its own is huge because it means when upgraded versions of the NK-32 are developed they can be used to upgrade the Backfire too...

    With 50 new Blackjacks that means about 60-65 Blackjacks in total... x4 = 240 to 260 engines on aircraft plus a couple of dozen spares, and with 50 odd Backfires that means another hundred engines as well... makes the upgrades much more cost effective and savings in fuel are further increased...

    The addition of inflight refuelling will be a huge bonus too... Smile

    I wonder if the Chinese might be interested in some now...

    It would be a great replacement for their F-111s in Australia but politically that will never happen... one Backfire replacing two F-111s...

    The Tu-22M3 has been useful as a bomb truck in Syria, so hopefully this will be successful and they will go beyond 36 aircraft so that the Blackjacks can focus on strategic nuclear roles... imagine all your 65 Blackjacks are out hunting US carriers and WWIII starts.... not time to rush back home and change into your ball gown for the Grand ball....

    In comparison the Tu-22M3M would be ideal for dealing with any threats near the Russian coast... 5,000km radius for the aircraft plus 2,000km reach for the Kinzhal mach 10 missile... that is plenty of protection against any sort of ship...
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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:51 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Shame they don't list the upgrades...

    They actually did Smile


    in short:
    Crew: 2 pilots
    Engines same as Tu-160M2 - NK-32
    avionics - based on 160M2 (I presume netcentric with new navigation to chase CVBGs)

    Weaposn: Kh-32, Kindzhal, X-50 (scaled down X-101) and Gzur ( Ma-8 missile) both x6 and with range   ~1500 km (this form BMPD)

    Attention: air-frame also will be modified (didn't say to what degree though)
    Build in refueling bar too  russia  russia  russia


    refurbished: 36 units. Not bad to fend off NTO fleet. + 50 Tu-160M2.






    Updated missile carrier Tu-22M3M will receive a rigging Tu-160

    https://rg.ru/2018/04/28/reg-pfo/obnovlennyj-raketonosec-tu-22m3m-poluchit-osnastku-tu-160.html
    The creation of a deeply modernized bomber-missile carrier Tu-22M3M is nearing completion, the head of the Tupolev company Alexander Konyukhov said.

    - On the prototype of a deeply modernized missile carrier, assembly work and preparations for the first take-off are being completed . It is planned for the third quarter of 2018. In the same year, modernization of combat aircraft will begin, "Interfax quotes Konyukhov .

    The updated Tu-22 will receive new, more economical and durable engines, as well as on-board electronics, unified with the "older brother", the strategic missile carrier Tu-160. In particular, the aircraft will have a system of space communications and the ability to receive in-flight target designation - including from mobile sea and land terminals. Given that the main task of the Tu-22 is still hunting for aircraft carriers, the ability to take on-the-fly operational information about their whereabouts will not be superfluous. Another innovation will be the bar for refueling the aircraft in the air - this option will increase the already considerable combat radius of the missile carrier - with new engines the flight range of the Tu-22M3M will be almost 10 thousand kilometers.

    In parallel with the modernization of the aircraft, a new weapon is being developed for him. The upgraded electronics will allow the aircraft to use the Kh-32, Kh-55, Kh-555, Kh-101/102 missiles, and prospective Kh-50, GZUR and Dagger .

    "Modernization will significantly prolong the service life of Tu-22M family aircraft," Konyukhov stressed. According to open sources, Russia has more than 100 aircraft of this type.

    Collecting new cars and modernizing the drill will be in Kazan, where at the Gorbunov Aircraft Plant there are at least four Tu-22 gliders preserved from the Soviet reserve. In addition, the company has accumulated experience in restoring production of Tu-160. The first "White Swan" from the new series  climbed into the sky in early 2018.












    Russia will raise into the sky  a new missile carrier


    The first flight of the upgraded long-range missile carrier Tu-22M3M is scheduled for August 2018, RIA Novosti reported at the Kazan aircraft plant.

    https://rg.ru/2018/04/25/reg-pfo/rossiia-podnimet-v-nebo-novyj-raketonosec.html

    "We intend to lift the Tu-22M3M in the air in August," the company representative said.

    Photo: Grigory Sysoev / RIA Novosti
    Preparation of the Su-57 for the Victory Parade was shot on video
    Deep modernization and the resumption of the mass production of the most massive long-range aircraft was laid in the State Program of Armaments for 2018-2027. The aircraft is updated according to the scheme used for the "older brother" Tu-160: from the old Tu-22M, there is only a glider (and the one is modified).

    Instead of the regular NK-25 engines, the missile carrier will receive the upgraded Tu-160 power units: with a similar thrust, they are more durable and much more economical - the range of the upgraded Tu-22 will grow by one and a half times. The aircraft will receive a retractable bar for refueling in the air and an on-board electronics similar to the Tu-160M2. The crew will be reduced from four to two people.

    In the arsenal of the missile carrier will enter as available weapons of destruction: cruise missiles X-55, X-555, X-32, X-101/102, and prospective: Kindzhal , X-50 and GZUR. The weapons compartment is likely to be enlarged. The aircraft will be equipped with a space link to obtain target coordinates in real time - including from portable land and sea terminals.

    Collect the updated missile carriers and modernize the combat vehicles will be at the Kazan Aircraft Plant named after Gorbunov, where from the Soviet times at least four unfinished gliders have been preserved. The GPV provides for the modernization of 36 combat aircraft, mass production of the Tu-22M3M is planned to be deployed in the mid-1920s at a rate of three or four aircraft per year.


    The new upgrades for Tu-22M3 (from M3 to M3M) almost puts its to the level of Tu-160M. I would even say to nigh-strategic level even (the refueling probe though Neutral ) .
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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:30 am


    Wow, 2 pilots down from 4, Tu-160 engines and avionics and every single fancy missile available, Kinzhal included?

    This monster will be something epic. Hopefully they cranck up the whole fleet to this level not just 30, go nuts. thumbsup

    Any guesses on how many Kinzhals it will be able to carry? And what will they do with 2 extra seats now? Smile
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    Post  Hole on Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:30 am

    Should be able to carry 3 Kinzhals.

    They could do the same as on the Su-34, a food heater and a toilet.
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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  dino00 on Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:12 pm

    The weapons are realy impressive.
    Maybe kh-mt?
    Great post GunshipDemocracy!

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    Post  Svyatoslavich on Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:52 pm

    There are some unfinished Tu-22M3 in Kazan, I imagine they could complete these airframes in M3M version, also these would be new airplanes as they have no cycles or flight hours and could operate longer than existing M3.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:59 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    The new upgrades for Tu-22M3 (from M3 to M3M) almost puts its to the level of Tu-160M. I would even say to nigh-strategic level even (the refueling probe though Neutral ) .

    To me its main task is to keep CVSGs at bay. 36 is assumed in SAP till 2027 (but this again can be changed  by Putin as they say = depending on geopolitical setup) .




    Svyatoslavich wrote:There are some unfinished Tu-22M3 in Kazan, I imagine they could complete these airframes in M3M version, also these would be new airplanes as they have no cycles or flight hours and could operate longer than existing M3.

    Article claims 4 frames still are there




    dino00 wrote:The weapons are realy impressive.
    Maybe kh-mt?
    Great post GunshipDemocracy!

    not me it was just quoting 2 articles Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
    BTW what is Kh-MT?
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:06 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Wow, 2 pilots down from 4, Tu-160 engines and avionics and every single fancy missile available, Kinzhal included?

    This monster will be something epic. Hopefully they cranck up the whole fleet to this level not just 30, go nuts. thumbsup

    Any guesses on how many Kinzhals it will be able to carry? And what will they do with 2 extra seats now? Smile


    36 they say. I am a bit puzzled with Kindzhal though. Because there will be both Kindzhal AND Kh-32. Perhaps Kindzhal can be used also against smaller ships or land targets?
    I 'd say also range will drop till some degree as neither range nor speed is same as for MiG-31.

    I'd presume also that with missiles only in bomb bay (Gzur, Kh-50) range can increase or can fly faster to deployment point.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:26 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    with new engines the flight range of the Tu-22M3M will be almost 10 thousand kilometers.

    Nice... so a radius of about 5,000km... plus likely more with inflight refuelling that makes them very potent theatre strike aircraft...


    They didnt specify in article with or without refueling though. I'd say with . The funny this is why now refueling bar is included? it was dropped for some reason. Is this treaty dead?




    The upgraded electronics will allow the aircraft to use the Kh-32, Kh-55, Kh-555, Kh-101/102 missiles, and prospective Kh-50, GZUR and Dagger .

    Dagger... Kinzhal? Mach 10 2,000km range missile... impressive...

    [/quote]

    Tu-22M ceiling ~ 13000m,  speed max - 2300 km/h
    MiG-31  ceiling  +20,000m speed  max  3000 km/h

    unlikely Kindzgal gets same initial kinetic energy so perhaps range will decrease too.




    If they can rebuild the Tu-160 then rebuilding Tu-22M3s would be easy as it is a smaller lighter aircraft...

    That's the idea I'd say. Cheaper to get massive increase in air component deterrence. That would explain so little investment in ships now. More money for economy same fending off effect.

    Now I mean current Konradiev Cycle/Wave untill hi tech is mastered perhaps this is the cheapest way to stay safe.





    So two pilots makes sense because of long flight times, but it also suggests the issues with navigation and self defence have been fully automated to the point where the extra crew are clearly not needed anymore.

    Hmmm I wonder why Tu-160 still has crew of four...




    With 50 new Blackjacks that means about 60-65 Blackjacks in total... x4 = 240 to 260 engines on aircraft plus a couple of dozen spares, and with 50 odd Backfires that means another hundred engines as well... makes the upgrades much more cost effective and savings in fuel are further increased...

    The addition of inflight refuelling will be a huge bonus too... Smile

    refueling is not violating any START? or this is just over? BTW article say 36 to be upgraded but everything can change as situation can change too.






    I wonder if the Chinese might be interested in some now...

    Last time in 2013 they were rejected but now... I wouldn't be so sure Smile



    No negotiations were conducted with China on the delivery of Tu-22M3 bombers and are not being conducted - Rosoboronexport[/b]

    Policy January 24, 2013
    , 12:18 UTC + 3
    Deliveries of Tu-22M3 to foreign countries are in principle impossible, since these aircraft are strategic weapons

    Подробнее на ТАСС:
    http://tass.ru/politika/658978


     imagine all your 65 Blackjacks are out hunting US carriers and WWIII starts.... not time to rush back home and change into your ball gown for the Grand ball....

    In comparison the Tu-22M3M would be ideal for dealing with any threats near the Russian coast... 5,000km radius for the aircraft plus 2,000km reach for the Kinzhal mach 10 missile... that is plenty of protection against any sort of ship...


    The idea is they will help that it will not start because of many well armed bombers that ill clean world oceans if needed. After  CVSG are cleaned sea bases are available to long range missiles...

    First wave of Tu-22 cleans Pacific then wave of Tu-160 closes to say 1500 km for US shores so no fighter can reach them and shoot salvos of 5000km missiles...
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    Post  dino00 on Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:00 pm

    dino00 wrote:The weapons are realy impressive.
    Maybe kh-mt?
    Great post GunshipDemocracy!

    [/quote]not me it was just quoting 2 articles Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy  
    BTW what is Kh-MT?[/quote]

    I knew, i was saying your post bring great information Cool
    Kh-MT is a developing supersonic missile for tu 160M2, ~1500km range
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:07 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:...Hmmm I wonder why Tu-160 still has crew of four......

    When you are hauling nuclear ordinance it makes sense to have people who are tasked with keeping an eye on Armageddon toys so others can relax and fly the plane.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:18 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    When you are hauling nuclear ordinance it makes sense to have people who are tasked with keeping an eye on Armageddon toys so others can relax and fly the plane.

    Ruskies are such down shifters! 4 people is 2 times less work efficiency comparing to B2!




    dino00 wrote:I knew, i was saying your post bring great information Cool
    Kh-MT is a developing supersonic missile for tu 160M2, ~1500km range

    hmm for me Kh- is for missile code not manfacturer but I dotn calim to know all Smile

    BTW offically source is Janes, in Russianthis si also here:
    https://russian.rt.com/russia/article/463687-vks-rossya-rakety

    Ah my bad GZUR is to be 6Ma not 8Ma apologies Smile

    According to Jane's Missiles & Rockets, one of the most secret projects of the Russian defense industry is an airborne hypersonic guided missile (GZUR). The magazine, like the rest of the media, does not indicate the code of this ammunition, but at the same time cites the data: the weight of the rocket is 1,500 kg, and the length is 6 m. The speed of the GZUR will correspond to 6 Mach (about 7 thousand km / h) , which will neutralize the capabilities of any existing missile defense system. The main purpose of GZUR is to fight large surface forces.

    Presumably, the Russian missile will be equipped with a straight-through air-jet engine "product 70" developed by PJSC "Turaevskoe engineering design bureau" Soyuz "(Moscow region). At GZUR, according to some information, the head of homing "Gran-75", which manufactured JSC "Ural Design Bureau" Detail "(Kamensk-Uralsky, Sverdlovsk region) will be installed.

    Analysts believe that now GZUR is at the testing stage, and upon completion will be issued annually in an amount of 50 units. It is very likely that these missiles will be used by the military aviation and naval aviation. Weight, dimensions and functionality of the ammunition suggest that, first of all, it will complement the arsenal of Tu-22M3 and Su-34.

    On the implementation of the hypersonic aviation missile project in April 2013, Colonel-General Alexander Zelin, former commander-in-chief of the Air Force, spoke in his lecture. According to him, by 2020 Russia should receive a compact operational and tactical aviation missile with a range of 1,500 km and a speed of 6 Mach.
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    Post  Hole on Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:19 pm

    I thought Kinzhal is GZUR (hypersonic guided missile).
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:02 am

    Hole wrote:I thought Kinzhal is GZUR (hypersonic guided missile).

    Technically yes BUT  Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil in Janes refers GZUR as new missile developed with Kh-50 specially for Tu-160/Tu-22M bombers.
    GZUR is to fit into internal bomb bay of Tu-22 (1x6)  and Tu-160 (2x6). Thus length ~ 5m not ~8m as Kinzhal. Smaller range and speed too.

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    Post  mnztr on Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:05 am

    Surely the KH-32 will still be part of the weapons suite. That is one formidable weapon that came into place only in 2016. AFIK. I doubt any other plane can launch the Kinzhal without a booster rocket. It seems tailor made of the Mig-31s unique blistering speed and altitude capabilities.Maybe an SU-35 can get close to launching it as well but the SU-34 does not have the speed.
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    Post  GJ Flanker on Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:12 am

    I read somewhere, that the bomb bay of Tu-22M3M will be reconstructed to accommodate bigger missiles. Maybe then a Tu-22M3M could carry up to 6 Kinzhal (4 inside + 2 on wings) or Cirkon missiles. Two crew members less, lighter Avionics will benefit in more fuel. GZUR, Kh-50 and Kh-32 of course are the other missile options for Tu-22M3M. With modern avionics the Tu-22M3M will be able to use over 10 Kh-35U or Kh-31PD, for saturisation attacks on US carrier battle groups. With inflight refueling a big potential.
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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  Hole on Mon Apr 30, 2018 5:01 pm

    The Tu-22M3 should be able to carrie two Kinzahl under each wing. The Kh-22/-32 are much larger and heavier.

    Kh-32 and Kinzhal are typical for russian weapon development. Like belt and braces. Kh-32 is a deep modernisation of the Kh-22. Kinzhal is completely new. If the Kinzhal had failed (or would only be ready in four or five years), the already had the Kh-32.
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    Re: Tu-22M3: News

    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:19 pm

    GJ Flanker wrote: Tu-22M3M will be able to use over 10 Kh-35U or Kh-31PD, for saturisation attacks on US carrier battle groups.    

    Unlikely taking into account small range of above. with lett than 300km range this is a suicidal mission. That's why range of all perspective weapons are minimum 1000 km (Kh-32) till 2000km + Kinzhal. This keeps pretty nicely US CVSG at bay.







    mnztr wrote:. I doubt any other plane can launch the Kinzhal without a booster rocket. It seems tailor made of the Mig-31s unique blistering speed and altitude capabilities.

    Tu-22M is also 500km/h faster then Su-34 Smile but anyway they stated Kinzhal is perspective Tu-22 ordnance.







    Hole wrote:The Tu-22M3 should be able to carrie two Kinzahl under each wing. The Kh-22/-32 are much larger and heavier.

    but still drag is high with GZURs is less drag longer range. I guess it depends on mission.



    Kh-32 and Kinzhal are typical for russian weapon development. Like belt and braces. Kh-32 is a deep modernisation of the Kh-22. Kinzhal is completely new. If the Kinzhal had failed (or would only be ready in four or five years), the already had the Kh-32.

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