Syrian War: News #21

Levent Kemal
@leventkemaI
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5 min
Armed UAVs of the TAF were directed to the Sarmin - Nayrab - Saraqib region due to Russian and Assad's attacks on the TAF points.


Mohammed Ghorab
@MGhorab3
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21 min
#BREAKING
Turkish helicopters enter Syrian territory to evacuate the wounded from the Turkish forces in Nairab, east Idlib

As of yesterday




And the south today

Anyone remember this  

I was looking at map of IDLIB. As you approach Turkish border, gets mountainous. A few narrow roads, only way into IDLIB. I think Armour could not pass through most terrain. So why not block all roads into Turkey?  Using mines dispersed by missiles. Iran makes these warheads. Then the Turks trapped.

https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/fateh-110/

NB : Syria makes Fateh 110. With submunitions. To destroy road in border of IDLIB.

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Fateh-110 Variants
Iran has also developed two improved versions of the Fateh designated the A-110A (or Fateh 2) and the A-110B (or Fateh 3). A 2008 report suggested that Syria was building a surface-to-surface missile with Iranian assistance. This cooperative project is believed to be based upon the A-110B and have an operational range of at least 300 km. These are likely the Fateh-110 missiles that the Assad regime launched at opposition groups in the country in December 2012, prompting NATO to deploy Patriot batteries to Turkey. 1

Russians playing with fire. Turks launch AMRAAMs everyday without even knowing what they launch them at and they fly their su34 without missiles to defend themselves. They are not professional at all.




Also : they are leting turks install air defence system to hit their airplanes. Turks taret everyday russian planes with manpads and they will do the samebwith those systems. They need to blow them up before they destroy their sukhois. There is no way turks can differentiate russian and syrian sukhoi. They will fire at russians saying it was a syrian plane.

That's rather pathetic that russians are so affraid to do what turks do. They only sent some military police while turks send leopards, drones, air defence systems, use their f-16 inside syrian airspace...


Rob Lee
@RALee85
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44 min
SSB's Ismail Demir said that Turkey will deploy HiSAR-A low-altitude AD systems to Syria in a week, and HiSAR-O medium-altitude AD systems. Korkut AD systems and Koral Electronic Support/Attack systems are already in Idlib

dont be stupid.

Those planes are also escorted.  Russia stated that all planes are escorted by Su-35 after the Su-24 was shot down.

Is there any actual proof of those air defense systems in Idlib? Because Rob has been lying a lot since the Turkish incursions. He was pushing the whole "turkey blew up Pantsir" and "Turkey killed 2200 Syrian soldiers and 40 tanks and what not" bullshit. I and others were calling him out.

Photos are gtfo.

Turkey has lied so damn much so far its getting pathetic.

https://twitter.com/o_gilvi/status/1234534239259025408

Also, let me ask this question - if Turkey is shooting without checking what they are shooting at, then how come they haven't shot down a Russian jet yet?  Some of you people are so gullible that you take everything said at face value

miketheterrible wrote:dont be stupid.

Those planes are also escorted.  Russia stated that all planes are escorted by Su-35 after the Su-24 was shot down.


Is there any actual proof of those air defense systems in Idlib? Because Rob has been lying a lot since the Turkish incursions.

Photos are gtfo.

Su34 was specially made to bomb while being able to deal with f16/15/18 on its own because su24 was an easy target for fighters.

Escorting such bomber by a heavy fighter like su35 is stupidity. Also they have 4 su35. They can't always escort bombers and should be send only with su24.

Concerning turkish AD I posted a picture of one being sent in Syria. The other two are more advanced and use radars. They are not in Syria. They only say they will send them.

How does the f-16 pilot know what he is shooting at wheb firing an amraam from 60km away ? Of course they don't know and rely on ground intel which can only differentiate su34 with su24 but not russian su-24 with syruan su-24.

Also russian jets where fired at with manpads many time.

Isos wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:dont be stupid.

Those planes are also escorted.  Russia stated that all planes are escorted by Su-35 after the Su-24 was shot down.


Is there any actual proof of those air defense systems in Idlib? Because Rob has been lying a lot since the Turkish incursions.

Photos are gtfo.

Su34 was specially made to bomb while being able to deal with f16/15/18 on its own because su24 was an easy target for fighters.

Escorting such bomber by a heavy fighter like su35 is stupidity. Also they have 4 su35. They can't always escort bombers and should be send only with su24.

Concerning turkish AD I posted a picture of one being sent in Syria. The other two are more advanced and use radars. They are not in Syria. They only say they will send them.

Actually no, Su-34 were designed entirely for a strike jet.  Not a multipurpose. You are mistaking it for Su-30.  Which also escort the other jets.  It can carry medium range missiles only if it isn't carrying other payload if it has to fly alone.  It doesn't.

And they barely fired any missiles at Russian jets.  Manpads have a total height of 5,000M.  Those Russian jets fly higher.

You really do think Russians are stupid right?  They are far smarter than you are, especially when you rely on fake news to spread bullshit.

As for your other nonsense, AWACS can determine what jets they are picking up you know. Those AIM-120's aren't flying blind. They are aided by the AWACS system which can pick up and designate targets since long fucking time now.

Actually no, Su-34 were designed entirely for a strike jet.  Not a multipurpose. You are mistaking it for Su-30. Which also escort the other jets.

Su-34 was designed to be able to defend itself against f15/16/18. It has a radar that can see those air targets at 120km away and uses the r27ER/ET with a max range of 100km.

Not multirole but able to defend itself.


I edted my post above.

You really do think Russians are stupid right? They are far smarter than you are, especially when you rely on fake news to spread bullshit.

What fake news ?

As for your other nonsense, AWACS can determine what jets they are picking up you know. Those AIM-120's aren't flying blind. They are aided by the AWACS system which can pick up and designate targets since long fucking time now.

Nope. Radar can tell the size of an object only. Su34 and su-24 have almost the same size/rcs. And turkey doesn't have the best awacs actually it's only an AW&C.

Isos wrote:

Actually no, Su-34 were designed entirely for a strike jet.  Not a multipurpose. You are mistaking it for Su-30. Which also escort the other jets.

Su-34 was designed to be able to defend itself against f15/16/18. It has a radar that can see those air targets at 120km away and uses the r27ER/ET with a max range of 100km.

Not multirole but able to defend itself.


I edted my post above.

Yeah, on basic payload. Its intended purpose is a bomber/strike aircraft. They are provided air escort while they do their bombing runs. Its concept of self defence is entirely based upon if it flies alone. When they are busy bombing hardened positions, they are escorted.

And no, you wont see them escorted side by side. It will be at long distances. So just incase you ask why you cant see it in the photo lol.

Isos wrote:

You really do think Russians are stupid right? They are far smarter than you are, especially when you rely on fake news to spread bullshit.

What fake news ?

Your Rob Lee bullshit.

And the "they are lobbying missiles blind". Because that isn't how it works.

thats also fake news.

Edit:

Rob Lee really damaged his image imo after this nonsense. He didn't even admit his mistake when evidence was showing Turks were lying hard.

I believe that Turkey sent mobile AD system. Why not? Makes sense, if they sent armour. No proof needed really. Also I think best plan for Syria is that ALL fighters now flying in Syria, are Syrian. Manned by Syrian pilots and armed. So if Syrian pilot gets shot down, no big deal......... No Russians in the air now.......

miketheterrible wrote:

Isos wrote:

You really do think Russians are stupid right? They are far smarter than you are, especially when you rely on fake news to spread bullshit.

What fake news ?

Your Rob Lee bullshit.

And the "they are lobbying missiles blind".

thats also fake news.

It's not a fake news. He reports what an official turk said ... how could that be a fake news ?

Isos wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

Isos wrote:

You really do think Russians are stupid right? They are far smarter than you are, especially when you rely on fake news to spread bullshit.

What fake news ?

Your Rob Lee bullshit.

And the "they are lobbying missiles blind".

thats also fake news.

It's not a fake news. He reports what an official turk said ... how could that be a fake news ?

Because the Turks were lying and they were caught doing so.  Are you gonna continue this charade?  Cause Turks spread Fake news.  At least if he is going to quote said fake news, he would correct himself or admit later.  Which none was done.  As I said, others called it out.  But hey, he is your boyfriend, not mine so I dont have a reason to defend him.

Anyway, actions speak louder than words.  And so far, turks are getting their asses handed to them along with their buddies.  So I wouldn't worry.  Russians are hell of a lot smarter than you or I.  They know what they are doing.

Maybe you should trust the Russians a bit more cause they proven they are more than capable of handling these tough decisions. If it was up to you, Turkey would have been bombed by now. Same if I was in charge. I dunno if that would be wise either.

So cool your jets on your comments about a nation who has done wonders in the last couple of years.

As some were saying on Twitter, there wont be some ceasefire. Turks will make their demands and it will fall on deaf ears. As Russia said, its Syrian territory.

My only question is, what is Erdogans popularity at home? He really is sending a lot of his people to their graves for almost nothing. No gain, nothing.

And now with Libya too.

So what you guys think about Erdogans future within the state? Or you think all the Turkish trolls are indication that he has enough support to survive?

miketheterrible wrote:As some were saying on Twitter, there wont be some ceasefire.  Turks will make their demands and it will fall on deaf ears.  As Russia said, its Syrian territory.

My only question is, what is Erdogans popularity at home?  He really is sending a lot of his people to their graves for almost nothing.  No gain, nothing.

And now with Libya too.

So what you guys think about Erdogans future within the state?  Or you think all the Turkish trolls are indication that he has enough support to survive?

Erdogan's main problem is EU. He is pissing them like no one else. They will sanction the shit out of them. Turks will remove him once they will start eating shit.

Isos wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:As some were saying on Twitter, there wont be some ceasefire.  Turks will make their demands and it will fall on deaf ears.  As Russia said, its Syrian territory.

My only question is, what is Erdogans popularity at home?  He really is sending a lot of his people to their graves for almost nothing.  No gain, nothing.

And now with Libya too.

So what you guys think about Erdogans future within the state?  Or you think all the Turkish trolls are indication that he has enough support to survive?

Erdogan's main problem is EU. He is pissing them like no one else. They will sanction the shit out of them. Turks will remove him once they will start eating shit.

He managed to piss off Germany, France and Greece. But those nations are under control of the US so they will do as they are told.

I am just curious what his position is currently in the country and how he is viewed? Cause from my understanding, Turkish economy is taking a beating as they still rely heavily on imports.

Turkish UAVs are going to finish soon

One more Buk-M2 killed by Turkish Drone Air Force.

How long will Russia spend money to protect Assad? All the international twitter accounts and press are talking about massive hardware loss of the SAA by Turkish drones.

But ofcourse for you Kremlin trolls everything is fake news

https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1234933018978111492

The Ottoman wrote:One more Buk-M2 killed by Turkish Drone Air Force.

How long will Russia spend money to protect Assad? All the international twitter accounts and press are talking about massive hardware loss of the SAA by Turkish drones.

But ofcourse for you Kremlin trolls everything is fake news

https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1234933018978111492

That link only shows a clash report pic with some commentary. Is there another link. It might be my iPad.

Another Pantsir gone.

Soon no country will buy this system anymore. Killed by a cheap drone.

Yes it looks like a hit alright, is the clip dated?

If you go to the twitter account of Clashreport, you can see the dates and location of the hits. You see a lot of another hits. Clashreport en WorldAlert are almost the only accounts with good videomaterial of Turkish drone hits. I dont believe that these videos are from Libya, if that was the case than the jewish lapdog Haftar would now be retiring in a great penthouse in Moscow with Russian girls because GNA would take over the country with so much hardware loss for LNA.

But for your other question, the material of the Buk hit is gone, only the messages remained. I dont know why.

Another result of a drone hit. Again Assadists (Soviet) hardware loss.

I dont know what type of hardware this is.