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    Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  Viktor on Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:00 am

    And here we go. LOL

    Does not need to mean something but still, interesting coincidence. UAV being shoot down from the sky.

    Coming from the Israeli news portal thats got to account for something  Very Happy

    Syrian TV: Army shoots down Israeli drone near border

    Syrian state TV reported on Wednesday that government forces shot down an Israeli drone near the Lebanese border.

    Mayadeen TV reported Syria had shot down an Israeli craft over Deir al Ashayer, a village near Lebanese border.

    Damas Post quoted witnesses as saying they saw burning wreckage fall from the sky over the village of Yanta in eastern Lebanon.

    Earlier on Wednesday, Lebanese news agencies reported Israeli warplanes conducted multiple overflights and "mock raids" over southern Lebanon.

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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  GarryB on Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:54 am

    Actually I think they did... didn't the Israelis brag that Pantsir-S1 wasn't a threat when they attacked targets in Syria, and it turned out it hadn't been delivered at the time of the attack?


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    Syria - Israeli Incidents

    Post  Viktor on Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:21 am

    I have no doubt Israel plan their actions very carefully trying to avoid even a single loss.

    When executed they brag about it like there is no tomorrow and as we saw with that Syrian "nuclear plant" action even lying

    about Pancir-S1 which was not delivered at the time and even if it was who knows where would Syrians place it.

    Well now 5 UAV entered Libanon air space and 1 UAV did not return Very Happy


    Lebanon: Israeli drone crashes in Lebanon Valley


    A Palestinian civil defense forces source said an Israeli drone crashed in the Lebanon Valley,
    a Lebanese news site reported.

    The Lebanese military reported that in the last 24 hours, five Israeli drones entered Lebanese skies.


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    Israel strikes Syria but an israeli jet shot down by sam

    Post  nemrod on Sun May 05, 2013 1:54 pm

    http://inserbia.info/news/2013/05/israel-strikes-syria-again-video/

    Israel attacked another time Syria, however they lost one jet, as two israelis pilots were missing, it would be either a F4-Phantom II, or a F-15. It seems to be a heavy price, as the two pilots were either killed, or in syrian prison.

    Yes, the syrian -russian origin- anti-aircraft warfare is still a redoutable threat, and not virtual, and it would calm any warmongers . Far from US propaganda that claimed it was attack in order to deter any so-called delivery to the Fateh 110, or a sam to Hizbollah -while Hizbollah had already this weaponery for a long time- . This attack was greened light by USA, and pressed by the congress of USA, controlled by Zionist lobbies in order to test Syria's defence anti aircraft..
    The result of this attack proved that any military adventure against Syria, would be a catastroph for US barbaric war machine as it triggered world war, because never Russia, or China will give up Syrian governement resulting this time a heavy blow and defeat for USA, and Zionist oligarchy.

    Just another thing, as you can heard the previous attack was trigerred from lebanon's airspace, in order to avoid the syrian's anti-aircracraft system, as it seemed to be failed, israeli army restarted the attack, but with the losses of one aircraft.
    It seems this time, Israel used 18 fighter-bombers, and many cruise missile were launched from Lebanon.






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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  gaurav on Sun May 05, 2013 3:16 pm

    GReat NEWS .. I am overwhelmed.. Israel keeps on bombinng Syria..

    This time they have changed their tactic but this is of no great significance..

    They launched 2-3 missiles with some cluster munitions on the same building in Damascus..


    I think MOssad(MOst ASS) and netanhyu are getting Zombified thats why their stance are fixed on the building near Damascus..

    It was insignificant as only 2-3 buildings were destroyed..

    I Hope Israel(ASS RAIL) keeps getting false information about SYRIA WEAPONS AND KEEPS LAUNCHING THE MISSILES on useless building..

    best PART OF NEWS Israeli jet shot down..
    Hey HA HA HA.. Twisted Evil attack

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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  gaurav on Sun May 05, 2013 4:41 pm

    Russia will generally stay cool.
    They know that this was a medium scale attack with 20 air crafts involved.

    They will analyse this scenario and the reasons for this and then only Russian defense ministry will propose some adjustments

    in their

    Syrian scenario..

    What I believe is that Syrian tank crews , Infantry and special forces are getting advice from Russian specialists .
    Syrian air defense on the contrary are on their own.They (Syrian air defnse and air force) are operating SOLO (All alone).

    It is the syrian ground forces who are operating and creating their tactics with Russian help.

    I guess the Russian ground force involvement could grow.

    But in all of this there is an important scenario what is that..

    Syrian air force is the intelligence centre for all syrian forces.

    No russian support to Syrian Air force.

    Syrian air defense.. under control of Syrian air force. least or in fact NO Russian involvement ..

    Hence it can be said that Russian involvement is presently "focused" on Syrian ground level operations..

    But I personally do not know what will the Russian reaction to this incident .. but there is also an important point that

    Iran is supplying massive shipments of small arms and missiles to Syria ground forces.






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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  flamming_python on Mon May 06, 2013 9:08 am

    Is this news confirmed?

    IF true -

    RIP to the Israeli pilots - nothing to celebrate here
    But well done to the Syrian AD for defending their airspace; although they should have shot down more. Was worried that they were completely incompetent and making our tech look bad (once again..)
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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  Zivo on Mon May 06, 2013 11:02 am

    Doesn't seem to be true, it was from an early report. Israel probably used long range weaponry and completely bypassed Syrian AD. Since the FSA have "liberated" a few of them in western Syria, there's gaps that Israel exploited.

    I was hoping to see the Pantsir-S1 get its first kill.
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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  flamming_python on Mon May 06, 2013 12:30 pm

    If the Syrians were smart (and they probably are); they'd have relocated most of their most vital assets to the Alawite-dominated West coast by now along with the modern air-defense tech that they have.

    Israel has been hitting Damascus; which as the capital is going to have a heavy amount of air defense but then again it's a hotspot with rebel ambushes and assaults, one after the other, including on air defenses in the vicinity so I would imagine that the Syrians might not be willing to station their Pantsirs and Buks in or around the city.
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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  nemrod on Mon May 06, 2013 2:02 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Is this news confirmed?

    IF true -

    RIP to the Israeli pilots - nothing to celebrate here
    But well done to the Syrian AD for defending their airspace; although they should have shot down more. Was worried that they were completely incompetent and making our tech look bad (once again..)
    Dear Flamming:
    I made my mea-culpa previously in this topic, I explained with ref. to book how the system manage to be brutishness. Iam not ashamed, yes I, among millions was completly brutisshness by the propaganda.
    I was idiot to believe in nearly 60 years, Israel lost only 4 aircrafts -air to air dogfights-, most of them were either downed by AAA, or the ...magic joker's word...mechanical failures beside the myth of arabs genetics uncopetencies.
    I believed too, they never existed any arabs pilots aces, just Israelis aces....I think you understood what I said.
    As we were in the previous Internet-era, hence you see what I mean...


    Back to the subject, yesterday I had the names, of the two israelis pilots, if I find back the internet link, I will post it.
    The stupid scenaris that missiles fired from Lebanon, far from the targets, I don't give any credits to this claims. In fact USA -they are the main responsible- are well aware about the power of syrian/russian air defense, as we were on the eve of new world war, it is possible that these pilots, as the situation are hostage of the Lavrov-Kerry next meeting in Moscow, tomorow, or in the current of the week.
    Anyway I took credit to the downed israeli aircraft, as they are far to be invulnerable, and it seems that they were two raids, one, failed, the second that took place with several aircrafts. Some told they supposed to be 18 -to be confirmed - israelis aircrafts, however we have no films, as each aircrafts has its own embedded camera. Each raids brings normally its movie, however, there are no images.


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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  Viktor on Mon May 06, 2013 4:08 pm

    Most likely missiles launched well outside Syrian territory.

    But still, we cant know what really happened there.
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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  gaurav on Mon May 06, 2013 5:19 pm

    I was hoping to see the Pantsir-S1 get its first kill.

    Pantsir-S1 shot down Turkish F4 phantom (in mid 2012) jet when it was flying at super sonic at just around 1000 feet above sea level.The distance of the shot was approx 20 Km frm the sea shore.

    The pilots never knew what hit them .
    This incident has kept Ass rail and U.S on their

    back foot. Otherwise Syria would have been hit by
    airstrikes every day from Ass rail
    pilots.


    Tukish jet shot down by Syria Air defence
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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  nemrod on Mon May 06, 2013 9:12 pm

    gaurav wrote:
    I was hoping to see the Pantsir-S1 get its first kill.

    Pantsir-S1
    shot down Turkish F4 phantom (in mid 2012) jet when it was flying at
    super sonic at just around 1000 feet above sea level.The distance of the
    shot was approx 20 Km frm the sea shore.

    The pilots never knew what hit them .
    This incident has kept Ass rail and U.S on their

    back foot. Otherwise Syria would have been hit by
    airstrikes every day from Ass rail
    pilots.


    Tukish jet shot down by Syria Air defence

    Noone doubt about the efficiency of russian air defence hardware. The name of pilots displayed in arabic syrian website dampress.net was : Samuel Azar, Eyssone Gary. I tried to search, but find nowhere something about them in english.

    Moreover, it is said that israeli channel 10 said that they lost lost contact with one aircraft, and it could be dive in sea -back to
    israel propaganda! Very Happy-, nothing about wreckages, as always with Israel propaganda communication. Obviously, after they will claim that the aircraft dive in the sea, because of the joker's mechanical failure...as always.
    In fact, if the two pilots are between syrian hands, they faces and the aircraft wreckages should be displayed next.

    Else, I don't believe one moment about a so-called attack from outside syrian territory, the US/Israelis cruise missiles are not enough accurates to attack far from the targets. Remember, during the war in Iraq, in Yugaslavia, they reached to use the F-111, F-15E strike eagle, B-52. The fact that, there seems to be two air strikes, prove that the first failed.
    We will see the truth next.
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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  Zivo on Mon May 06, 2013 11:51 pm

    gaurav wrote:
    I was hoping to see the Pantsir-S1 get its first kill.

    Pantsir-S1 shot down Turkish F4 phantom (in mid 2012) jet when it was flying at super sonic at just around 1000 feet above sea level.The distance of the shot was approx 20 Km frm the sea shore.

    The pilots never knew what hit them .
    This incident has kept Ass rail and U.S on their

    back foot. Otherwise Syria would have been hit by
    airstrikes every day from Ass rail
    pilots.


    Tukish jet shot down by Syria Air defence

    It was never confirmed that a Pantsir shot it down, only speculation.

    Here's the video of the outgoing AAA fire that took the F4 down. Maybe someone can ID the weapon used by the audio.

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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  gaurav on Tue May 07, 2013 5:30 pm

    There is some topic missing in this forum.
    Some syria attack topic where it has gone..??

    t was never confirmed that a Pantsir shot it down, only speculation.

    It was the circumstances of the incident.
    I 'll try to find some link later.
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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  Russian Patriot on Tue May 07, 2013 8:23 pm

    gaurav wrote:There is some topic missing in this forum.
    Some syria attack topic where it has gone..??

    t was never confirmed that a Pantsir shot it down, only speculation.

    It was the circumstances of the incident.
    I 'll try to find some link later.

    merged the topics I have
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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  nemrod on Tue May 07, 2013 9:49 pm

    gaurav wrote:

    t was never confirmed that a Pantsir shot it down, only speculation.

    It was the circumstances of the incident.
    I 'll try to find some link later.


    Iam looking since sunday, but untill now, no informations about a downed aircraft.
    Furthermore, according to this very serious website :
    http://www.neworientnews.com/news/fullnews.php?news_id=98386

    at least 40 fighters-bombers participated in this attack.
    In fact what it is amazing, how the syrian air defense did not anticipate, how the air defense was so blind ?
    Someone has an explanation ? Is An awacs be essential to prevent such bad surprise ?
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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  GarryB on Wed May 08, 2013 1:11 am

    It is the eternal problem of the air defence network... if you have your radars off, you cant see, if you have them on... even briefly, then the enemy knows where your fixed radars are and can plan attacks to bypass some and jam or destroy/disable them during an attack.

    The real secrets is mobile radars with intermittent use where you might catch an attack early enough to prevent it.

    (Note AWACS offers highly mobile radar, but is vulnerable to direct action itself... when the enemy has a strong air force. Besides such an aircraft could be a fairly easy target for rebels.)


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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  Viktor on Wed May 08, 2013 2:06 am

    nemrod wrote:
    Iam looking since sunday, but untill now, no informations about a downed aircraft.
    Furthermore, according to this very serious website :
    http://www.neworientnews.com/news/fullnews.php?news_id=98386

    at least 40 fighters-bombers participated in this attack.
    In fact what it is amazing, how the syrian air defense did not anticipate, how the air defense was so blind ?
    Someone has an explanation ? Is An awacs be essential to prevent such bad surprise ?

    Problem is we really dont know what happened there. Israel could have launched missiles from well outside Syrian airspace.

    Still no one knows for sure. No word from Israel military nor Syria military or USA or Russia but media is speculating about

    all the different stories. They are tapping in the dark.

    I would be pretty disappointed in Syrian air defense if all 40 Israel fighters entered Syrian airspace and non where shoot down.

    Still we dont know in what state is Syrian air defense and radar stations. There are serious fighting over there and terrorist are

    holding much of the territory and we all heard about how much they love to pay special attention to destroying PVO and radar sites.

    AWACS would be huge help but is not necessary. Ground radar stations can do the job just as well.



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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  gaurav on Sat May 11, 2013 4:44 pm


    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will visit Russia to
    discuss the supplying of Russian weapons to Syria, a high-ranking source in Jerusalem told RIA Novosti on Saturday.

    I think that air attack did take part with almost 2 squadrons IAF..
    But Israeli IAF have definitely GOT A TASTE OF Syrian Medicine.

    Some sort of response was delivered "real-time" when Israel took Syria attack route.
    But it was a botched attaempt.

    Israeli have history of injecting virus and false decoys in Syria radar network.

    And then raining down PGM on syrian facilities.

    I thought every day tons of F-16 BLK 60 would be on a tourism in Syria but actually what we find they are
    snucking from mountains (North of damascus)

    their pilots are "scared shit " and then their leaders doing a visit to Kremlin on this weekend.. lets say ha ha Cool
    All those who are triumphant about syria air defence been a NUT (impotent) are absolutely off the mark. Cool


    By the way one of the reasons F-16 went undetected.. Report by SAA


    Israeli fighter jets targeted a military research center near Damascus early on Wednesday morning, the Syrian army said. The statement follows earlier reports of an Israeli airstrike on a convoy with Syrian weapons heading to Lebanon.

    The Syrian army’s general command has issued a statement, saying an airstrike was launched by the IAF targeting a military research center in Jamraya, rural Damascus.

    “Israeli fighter jets violated our air space at dawn today and carried out a direct strike on a scientific research center in charge of raising our level of resistance and self-defense,” the army statement said as cited by SANA.

    The strike caused material damage to the center and a nearby building, killing two workers and wounding five others, the statement added. The Israeli warplanes were flying low under the radars and “snuck in from the north of Al-Sheikh Mountain” according to the report. It called the strike a “blatant act of aggression” against Syria and accused Israel of supporting terrorist activity in the country.
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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  nemrod on Sat May 11, 2013 10:42 pm

    To gaurav.
    The explanation from officials are dubious.
    No one knows the truth, neither me, neither you, Lebanon, even Israel has no knowledges of the results of this attacks.
    Furthermore, Syria -as lebanese sources- claimed that from 400 dead soldiers we are now at only few soldiers killed. The great hype about the so-called target against russian missiles delivered, finally, Syria would claimed that most of the objectives were missed. Most of the target would missed. This is what Syria claimed.
    In fact we are in war reports, and for us it will be impossible to know the truth.
    It is possible that some Syrian air defense could be obsolets, especiallly their SA-10, as Syria is intending to buy new S-300.
    About this claims

    The Israeli warplanes were flying low under the radars and
    “snuck in from the north of Al-Sheikh Mountain” according to the report.

    If you see the configuration of the ground between Jerusalem, and Damascus is 217 km, and Tel Aviv- Damascus 214 km. Distance seems to be very very short. It should be dubious too, if Syrian army did not have a radar in the Mountain. Iam not military, those who know could tell us. However, without to be a specialist, it should be logical to set your radar on mountain.
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    Syria - Israeli Incidents

    Post  gaurav on Sun May 12, 2013 10:01 am

    SAA will never issue any statement.

    If they issue then it has to be within realistic scenario.

    MEN IN CHARGE -> SAA. This is the message that goes "after" this attack.
    Israel has achieved nothing with 25% of IAF dedicated for this attack.


    The attack with 40 (may be evn 10 )aircrafts was serious.

    That statement was issued from the previous attack. This attack no media reports from SAA. They are keeping quite (busy in GUERILLA warfare in Dmascus, Aleppo etc)



    OF course they are hiding their radars.To install them on mountains it would be disaster.I also don't know what really happened.
    But I think IAF is on the back foot because lot of countermeasures are been put including close air protection of BUk and pantsyir installations, Stepping up of Russian naval intel, SVR , Iranian precision missiles..

    IAF pilots are shit scared even though not a single Russian system in now online ON OUTSKIRTS OF Damascus.They are "hidden' whatever you can call them for some reasons.

    One of the reasons that SAA has not issued any statement because lot of "parties" are now involved.

    The series of politicizing taking place "quite serious" IAF is shit scared to their stomachs, why would Israel go knocking
    on Kremlin's door.

    Yeah for these kind of incidents a separate thread is necessary.


    edited your text and will make separate thread - RP

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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  gaurav on Sat May 25, 2013 9:47 am

    The information coming out is very less.We dont know what exactly Russia is sending to
    Syria.
    Russia sends advanced missiles syria


    U.S criticize Russia missile supply
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    Syria' russian's S-300 downed their first F-16I waiting other...

    Post  nemrod on Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:33 pm

    When I heard few days ago that an israeli F-16I damaged on the sea, and their crew was safe...humm, I felt a very well known smell, odor of propagada..
    In this crisis era, it is strange the suddenly unknown numbers of western accidents: turkish F-4 Phantom II, turkish F-16, and now at least one israeli F-16.

    US won't dare to attack Syria presently.




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    When Israel next calls the Pentagon, yarmulke in hand, egg on their face, their tone will be more restrained.

    By Mike Chester for the online news magazine Veterans Today

    Israel announced on July 8 that one of their F-16s suffered a mechanical failure off the coast of Gaza. A military spokesman for the IAF said both pilots were recovered. The plane is said to have crashed into the Mediterranean Sea.

    Almost no part of this story is true, Israel did lose an F-16. They are unable to hide the fact that one of their first line aircraft is no longer in “inventory.”

    Did Israel, as multiple reports now indicate, really lose an F-16 and its crew of two to a Syrian S-300 missile 48 hours before the claimed incident and over 400 miles from the claimed location?

    On May 4, 2013, the Syrian Navy sunk an Israeli Dolphin submarine. Israel, unwilling to accept the public humiliation of such a loss: a disaster of such a proportion to its citizens has been repainting hull numbers and shuffling crew rosters on its remaining submarines for two months.

    Lost aircraft, especially during an offensive operation, are routinely never disclosed to the public for a variety of reason. Informed sources have disclosed that the F-16 training accident reported off the coast of Gaza was cover for their plane lost in the Syrian warehouse attack which is claimed was targeted as an S-300 component part base.

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    Re: Israeli Airstrikes in Syria

    Post  Viktor on Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:33 pm

    Well, another speculation which might be true and might not be true, still. ....

    13.07.13 ISRAEL LAUNCHED A MISSILE STRIKE ON A WAREHOUSE "YAKHONT" IN SYRIA

    and as a consequence as @nemrod said

    Israeli F16 crashes into sea

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