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    Post  Vann7 Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:26 am

    wow... just wow.. saw a video that if claimed true.. spell the doom of erdogan kingdom..  Shocked

    Because regardless if they are from turkey party fanbase.. or opposition. .the video shows.. a bunch
    of turkey soldiers trapped inside a building ,while big explosions  were falling apparently on their place.
    so they were all pretty scary , grouped in a room while the walls and the entire building was being hit..



    some grab this video an record it.. and reupload somewhere else.. because the link will be deleted
    if the video is true..

    The problem erdogan will face with his own supporters ,is that if he is in syria to attack Russia and syria.. he is sending a lot of his soldiers to die .. in impossible to defend positions ,not caring by their lives..  by asking them to attack SAA and Russian airforce, while them being encircled and or at range of syrian artillery.. Russia will have plenty of evidence to proof one turkey outpost was targeting their planes with stinger missiles.. so it was self defense..  also Russia can say that turkey outpost about 30 of them that are not fighting at russian planes are not being attacked..

    the problem he will face with erdogan opposition parties.  is that they are already questioning the reality
    that erdogan mission in syria is suicide.. and seeking to provoke a war with Russia.. check this.. what one opposition party member told at turkey parliament..



    Main opposition leader slams Erdoğan over Turkish presence in Idlib
    Republican People’s Party (CHP) leader Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu criticised Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan over the presence of the Turkish army in Idlib following a deadly attack on troops on Thursday.

    Erdogan wants the regime to withdraw from its own territory, is not this nonsense?”   Kılıçdaroğlu said.

    “If the reason for our existence there is to overthrow Assad, they should say it openly. You are not saying this. So why are we staying there?”  


    Confirmed: Twitter has become unavailable across #Turkey as of 11:30 p.m. local time for users of national provider Turk Telekom following alleged attack on Turkish troops in #Idlib; other social media currently unaffected; developing situation.

    This must be very serious what has happened!





    what I can say is that Turkish Military is completely against this erdoggy adventure, they know it can bring humiliation to Turkey and we also know Turkish people are proud of its past Ottoman Empire that almost ruled the world.
    The backstage must be red hot tonight….the turkish regime taking fire from Russia, SAA, from internal opposition and now having to explain 100 KIA/WIA soldiers in bed with al Qaeda ? Bring the internet down…this is the best way to avoid scenes of this bad day to go public…tomorrow the Turkish Erdoggy TV channel will be chanting war songs and say 10,000 Assad soldiers were killed in retaliation.

    Syria’s air defense is in full alert tonight, and have to say there are many trigger happy Syrians and Russians that would love to see some turkish jets being hit…revenge for so many Syrian choppers that went down due to turkish MANPADS and F16s or the Su24 and Su25 hit by Turkey and by turkish al Qaeda.

    It is going to be a long night, meanwhile, the SAA is rolling thru Idlib, soon downhill to M4.



    i for one ,the country that Russia should be less afraid is United States ,they will not dare to start a war with
    Russia in defense of erdogan aid to alqaeda..  they not even dare to respond to IRAN ,knowing the scalation was going to be too much to handle for them.. and the whole point of US to recruiting alqaeda and isis ,is because they are scared to a direct war with Russia.. so US will never start a war with Russia directly.. what they could do is provide better weapons to Pentagon's Alqaeda  buddies... patriots if deployed on turkey border and fire against Russia will be destroyed by Russia easily. and if they attack syrian army.. blaming them for the death of turkey soldiers. iran can bomb again american bases ,this time including syrian ones.. so grab popcorn.. is going to be
    a very long night...  Smile

    by the way.. erdogan have been at war with Syria since 2011 ... he have been using his country as a base of operations for all NATO recruited jihadist world wide and helped them with transportation ,food ,weapons and infiltration into syria.. so if erdogan declares in public war.. then only change ,will be ,that no longer they will be
    hidding behind alqaeda... and so all turkey outpost will be fair targets for syria..  im sure that russia policy will continue to be the same.. return fire at any aggressor and bomb any force moving towards a fight with SAA.
    Russia however could give an ultimatum in public to erdogan ,that if attack their base or warships or planes
    that russia will officially declared limited war on all forces fighting against SAA in syria.. including turkey forces..
    and that russia reserve the right to escalate the conflict to beyond syrian borders.. if the need arise.. Cool

    erdogan and his political party will end the way of musolini ,(hitler right hand..the italian facist dictator ,that was hanged in public like a pig ,) when he provoke russia into a war and lose big time that conflict.. but somehow i still think that the military will not allow him to go that far.. into a war with a nuclear super power.


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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:30 am


    NSFW!

    Bodies of dead Turkish soldiers, definitely delivered by land not air:

    https://i.redd.it/t7otm1tdwjj41.jpg

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:30 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Even if the turks do declare war, they are already at war.
    So nice of them to make it official.
    Unless of course, they decide to send in a large invasion force well then that changes things.


    They were already given 22 official sneak previews of what will happen in that case

    Russians didn't slap those Turks by accident, it was full planned response not some accidental oopsie...


    It's far from that simple.
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    Post  par far Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:31 am

    If there is a all out conflict, who do you think the Regional powers and the Global power will stand with? In other words, who will back who?


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    Post  Azi Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:33 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Official Death toll of Turkish Soldiers in the recent bombing in Idlib Governorate was increased to 29 by the Governor of Hatay

    https://www.ntv.com.tr/turkiye/son-dakika-haberi-suriye-idlibde-29-asker-sehit,8bKetwRLr0qSegN7DFRruA

    Make that 29 official sneak previews, looks like rumors about large bodycount being suppressed are true


    The number will rise! I don't know what kind of attack happened, against a convoy or the headquater in Idlib...but for sure he angered Russia immense, they told Turkey 1000 times where the red lines are and Turkey ignored it.


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    Post  par far Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:33 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    NSFW!

    Bodies of dead Turkish soldiers, definitely delivered by land not air:

    https://i.redd.it/t7otm1tdwjj41.jpg




    I am not 100% sure that those are the Turks or not but if they are, may they burn in hell, these assholes have caused a lot of misery.
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    Post  crod Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:35 am

    the problem here right now, and imo is a major unknown...the turkish president is as mad as a cut snake - nobody should underestimate just how dangerous this can be. there is real potential for this to flare right up because of the very fact he is a fcuking mad bastard.
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    Post  Azi Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:35 am

    par far wrote:If there is a all out conflict, who do you think the Regional powers and the Global power will stand with? In other who will back who?
    Nobody will back Erdogan! He shit on whole EU with open borders for refugees, for 72 hours!!!
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    Post  crod Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:40 am

    Turkey and NATO are speaking or have just spoken.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:43 am

    crod wrote:the problem here right now, and imo is a major unknown...the turkish president is as mad as a cut snake - nobody should underestimate just how dangerous this can be. there is real potential for this to flare right up because of the very fact he is a fcuking mad bastard.

    I believe I said he was a madman months ago but yes this could flare up really bad.
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    Post  crod Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:48 am

    Has Russia claimed responsibility for this hit? The turks appear to be accusing the SAF?
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    Post  ultimatewarrior Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:51 am

    crod wrote:Has Russia claimed responsibility for this hit? The turks appear to be accusing the SAF?

    Only Russians come at night. At night they come.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:51 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    crod wrote:the problem here right now, and imo is a major unknown...the turkish president is as mad as a cut snake - nobody should underestimate just how dangerous this can be. there is real potential for this to flare right up because of the very fact he is a fcuking mad bastard.

    I believe I said he was a madman months ago but yes this could flare up really bad.

    Erdogan is bad man. Everyone hates him now.
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:53 am

    Isos wrote:
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    Air defenses at Syria's Hmeimim air base intercept two missiles fired from Turkish soil

    https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2020/27-february-air-defenses-at-syrias-hmeimim-air-base-intercept

    Not trustfull source. No report of air defence engagement. Some missiles, probably rockets, launched but not at Hmeimim.

    Apparently 2 Grad rockets from within Syria.
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    Post  Vann7 Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:01 am

    par far wrote:If there is a all out conflict, who do you think the Regional powers and the Global power will stand with? In other words, who will back who?

    Pro israel powers.. will support anyone that fights Russia.. whether is erdogan or alqaeda....
    So US ,CANADA ,UK ,australia and Israel.. and the only exception is turkey that is not zionist ,but his fanatic leader is a nut.. nations that depends heavily of US trade , will provide political  support.. like albania ,baltics ,poland ,ukraine ,georgia..colombia ,panama..

    Most of europe will remain neutral.. and will not dare to join any crazy alliance to fight Russia.. the sole
    discussion of this is even non sense.. no one in europe will fight russia to protect a terrorist like erdogan that is hated by europe.  it will be like europe declaring war on russia in defense of saudi arabia. This is why i call
    NATO a paper alliance.. is a joke.. Greece ,that have lost pilots to Turkey , will never go in defense of erdogan ,
    they rather see him hanged in public.. and it was greece the FIRST country to come in defense of Russia ,when erdogan shot down the russian plane.. france and germany neither will support a war against russia. they will prefer a bullet on their feet than support erdogan..Austria ,hungary ,bulgaria will never support turkey, romania might end being neutral..only muslim brother hood nations,, like qatar and morocco ,the symbolic government in lybia and alqaeda ,they love erdogan. Even Norway ,who is anti russian.. exposed Erdogan oil
    deals with ISIS.. so erdogan is a dead man walking... his only chance to avoid the collapse of his leadership is backdown in syria and restore relations with Russia.. but his fanaticism.. by make him incapable of any reason.


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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:03 am

    crod wrote:Has Russia claimed responsibility for this hit? The turks appear to be accusing the SAF?

    It was the SAF
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:25 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    crod wrote:Has Russia claimed responsibility for this hit? The turks appear to be accusing the SAF?

    It was the SAF

    Was it a convoy or a building that got hit. Seen claims to both.
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:26 am

    A new Peto map

    Syrian War: News #21 - Page 10 ERzb-FNXsAYlKHh?format=jpg&name=large
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:41 am

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    Post  ultimatewarrior Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:44 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    crod wrote:Has Russia claimed responsibility for this hit? The turks appear to be accusing the SAF?

    It was the SAF

    Nop. It was Russian. Su-34 has thermal. It fly at night. Syrian air force don't have plane that has thermal.
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    Post  crod Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:45 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    crod wrote:Has Russia claimed responsibility for this hit? The turks appear to be accusing the SAF?

    It was the SAF

    Was it a convoy or a building that got hit. Seen claims to both.

    from what i have read a convoy was shelled earlier but the main cause of the casualties appears to be from a two storey building that was struck from the air. Also there are conflicting reports on who was responsible.
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    Post  ultimatewarrior Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:46 am

    JohninMK wrote:
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    crod wrote:Has Russia claimed responsibility for this hit? The turks appear to be accusing the SAF?

    It was the SAF

    Was it a convoy or a building that got hit. Seen claims to both.

    A building in Saraqib. 1 bomb.

    https://twitter.com/ErkinOncan/status/1233128039946629120
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    Post  Azi Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:08 am

    crod wrote:Has Russia claimed responsibility for this hit? The turks appear to be accusing the SAF?
    What I heard it was a big convoy of turkish army on the way to southern Idlib, to stop advance of SAA. Another hit was the building in Saraqib. A factor of russian reaction was massive shelling of turkish army against SAA in Saraqib, that's why SAA lost the town. Saraqib was the red line for Russia and Turkey crossed it. It was RuAF and it was not only 1 strike, it was more.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:27 am

    JohninMK wrote:A new Peto map

    Syrian War: News #21 - Page 10 ERzb-FNXsAYlKHh?format=jpg&name=large

    Sauron has emptied Barad Dur of its orcish horde and sent them forth to do their mischief against Gondor and the city of Minas Tirith.  

    The tide will turn and the Dark Lords slaves will be turned back, and there shall be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth.  This will be their high-water mark, like a dirty ring around a bath-tub Very Happy

    Go the SAA!! attack
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    People are saying fighters are taking off from Eskişehir AFB.

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