Syrian War: News #20

JohninMK wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote: The idiots thought blocking the road meant that they couldn't drive around them lmao!

Do we know if they actually drove past or accepted the block?

@Mag

Quite low sighted of you, naturally, anyone knows an off-road vehicle can go OFF-ROAD. What do you expect those guys to do fire on the Russians or build some magic fence?.

They were simply told block the road, to try and sway the Russians from not passing them. That is all, Russia does these kinds of things to.

Are they idiots then?. Comments like that are just ignorant as hell.


@John

They drove around, this is fishing. We are testing where the Russians will be cheeky and where they won't be.

Those guys have specific orders if the Russians go around them they are to do nothing.

Etc they test us and we test them, it's back and forth.

As expected the SAA is now going up the M5 to take all of it, Which is what I said they would do.

They syrrounded 9 turkish post and turks did nothing. Erdogan knows its limits.

Btw russian and syrian bombers are bombing Idlib day and night and keep doing so. Su-34 up in the air. That's another reason that Erdogan can only talk.


Maybe it's time to turn on one of those Syrian S-300 to cover Idlib. Every time they make lot of success on the ground they get bombed.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:As expected the SAA is now going up the M5 to take all of it, Which is what I said they would do.

That was an open secret....actually it was no secret at all:
Last year, Putin and Edogan agreed to have a safe zone by having Turkey arrange to have the goatfuckers vacate the south and east of Idlib governorate so that the M5 highway linking Damascus to Aleppo could be opened. Erdogan promised to do it but did nothing. So, it had to be done by force and this is what is happening right now. M5 will be reopened and that is as far as this round of fighting will go. Erdogan does not want the SAA advance beyond that. By sending in his tanks, Erdogan is defining it as a red-line. A new round of talks and negotiations will be needed so that the fate of the rest of Idlib governorate becomes known.

https://news.antiwar.com/2020/02/07/russia-israel-used-civilian-plane-as-cover-in-syria-attack/

No surprise there! Assad better suspend all civilian flights into/out of Damascus until better times.

Fidan, head of Turkish intelligence, threatened with a repeat of the fate of Suleymani https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2852783.html

TheArmenian wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:As expected the SAA is now going up the M5 to take all of it, Which is what I said they would do.

That was an open secret....actually it was no secret at all:
Last year, Putin and Edogan agreed to have a safe zone by having Turkey arrange to have the goatfuckers vacate the south and east of Idlib governorate so that the M5 highway linking Damascus to Aleppo could be opened. Erdogan promised to do it but did nothing. So, it had to be done by force and this is what is happening right now. M5 will be reopened and that is as far as this round of fighting will go. Erdogan does not want the SAA advance beyond that. By sending in his tanks, Erdogan is defining it as a red-line. A new round of talks and negotiations will be needed so that the fate of the rest of Idlib governorate becomes known.

pretty much this is what looks to be happening.. look at the latest idlib map..

there are many turkey post , spread.. but 3 of them are in a clear straight line between idlib and syrian army..
so it could be seen as erdogan could be flexible about the taking of m5 highway.. but that is drawing a line to
not advance in idlib main city..  which i honestly think. .syria should never take it by force.. because is full
of pro erdogan civilians and pro muslim brotherhood ,many of them likely have turkey citizenship and were moved to idlib ,to create a pro turkey zone.. so the citizens civilians in idlib could cause a lot of problems
to syria in terms of civil unrest.. and erdogan can fill idlib with many millions anti assad people.. hand picked by them.. so could sabotage syria next elections and even make assad lose elections if too many 5th column deported to idlib..

so like i said , i don't think is a good idea , that syrian army capture by force all idlib.. only strategic zones..
that enhance their security.. after m5 highway ,they should start taking territory closer to latakkia to push the terrorist positions as farthest as possible  from russian base..
saw a video of turkey tanks entering in idlib in trucks and many of them are old junk.. so doesn't seem at least in appearance erdogan is going there to start a fight.. but more to draw a line ... and it looks the line is idlib main city.. which like i said , i really believe is a very bad idea to take that city.. it was always anti assad.. and they will cause major problems to syria if connect that city to all others.. better allow erdogan to hold it for a few years.. and retake it later through diplomacy when erdogan no longer in power..
much more important will be to push the terrorist far from latakkia ..and to convince the kurds to abandon their independence project and become part of syria society and help them to remove americans from syria ,using peaceful protest. using the same tactics of encircling their bases with thousands of kurdish civilians first ,and press filming american response ..using them as a shield and later SAA with kurds encircle it with their military ,
so to effectively lock them inside their base.. then deploy mobile air defenses near their base.. so any plane that enter and leave will be at missile reach.. also artillery aiming at their bases.. so they know they are very vulnerable in that position and can't defend in case choose to start a war vs SAA.

About 20km of the M5 to be liberated, plus buffer area to the west of it. That could be it for a while as the SAA hardens its new boundaries. Then the main action could be to the west of Aleppo. Probably best to get as much area reclaimed as possible before going for the politically sensitive Idlib city area itself.

Apparently when the SAA took the important hill of Tal al-Eis they found the Turkish OP on it empty. Sensible move by the TA as that would have been tough to resupply and no longer any value.

JohninMK wrote:About 20km of the M5 to be liberated, plus buffer area to the west of it. That could be it for a while as the SAA hardens its new boundaries. Then the main action could be to the west of Aleppo. Probably best to get as much area reclaimed as possible before going for the politically sensitive Idlib city area itself.

Apparently when the SAA took the important hill of Tal al-Eis they found the Turkish OP on it empty. Sensible move by the TA as that would have been tough to resupply and no longer any value.

Nice!

They should focus after M5 on West-Aleppo and M4 highway. There is a big area between west of Arihan and east of Jisr al Shughur, south of the M4, the SAA can easy take without intervention of Turkish Forces.

Reports of 200 turkish vehicles entering Alleppo on twitter.

As long as SAA controls borders. Not important. They will be surrounded. Need supplies and short of Donner kebab. LOL.

Is there a version of that with English subtitles?

JohninMK wrote:Is there a version of that with English subtitles?

there is.. use auto translate.. play with the youtube controls until you see an option
for auto translate ,then pick english.. is not perfect ,but give you enough to figure out ,what
they saying.

Vann7 wrote:

JohninMK wrote:Is there a version of that with English subtitles?

there is.. use auto translate.. play with the youtube controls until you see an option
for auto translate ,then pick english.. is not perfect ,but give you enough to figure out ,what
they saying.

Thanks. Will do

Israel's War Minister Nephtali Bennett announces an escalation of military operations against Syria: "We pledge to remove Iran from Syria within a year. We were bombing some Hezbollah trucks, but from now on we will bomb them all. We will turn Syria into Vietnam of their own"

https://twitter.com/janoubi_hawiya/status/1226485991894065152

The Turkish Army has ordered the NLF and TFSA to prepare and raise readiness in Idlib,for some sort of military operation

https://twitter.com/AbdoZehn/status/1226584221080326154

I am unsure how legitimate these sources are, but I thought I would share.

Turkish convoy rolling in over the weekend.

A convoy of Turkish military hardware crossed the border with Syria on Sunday and entered the Idlib Governorate, Sky News Arabia has reported. According to the report, the convoy consisted of tanks, armored vehicles and vehicles carrying munitions.

Al Mayadeen TV channel reported that Syrian armed opposition members in Idlib and Aleppo started moving their families to Afrin, located in the north of the Aleppo Governorate near the border with Turkey.

The Syrian army’s quick advancement to Idlib’s southern areas has angered Turkey, which is supporting militants fighting against government forces. Al Mayadeen TV channel reported earlier that 195 pieces of Turkish military equipment, including armored vehicles and tanks as well as trucks carrying munitions, crossed the border with Syria on February 2. On Monday, another military convoy headed to Idlib.

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu explained on Tuesday that military assistance to Idlib was aimed at reinforcing 12 observation points of the Turkish army.

Source: TASS, February 9, 2020



https://geopolitics.news/middle-east/turkish-military-convoy-enters-syrias-idlib/

My suggestion for protecting Iranian forces or other forces in Syria. From Usrael attacks. So far Russia AD doing this. Quite well. If Iranian or Syrian casualties mount. And Russian AD not able to protect. Then I think Iran or Syria should retaliate by missile. Making sure, they take responsibility for these. And separate force positions. Russians can leave area, just before attack.......

BTW, for the Usrael minister, about turning Syria into Vietnam. Already done. And we are winning! Next your turn.

Its not just Idlib, the SAA is active in other areas

According to a field report from the Homs Governorate, the Syrian Army, alongside the National Defense Forces (NDF), kicked off a new operation in the Badiya Al-Sukhnah region to clear the hideouts used by the Islamic State to attack their forces in eastern Syria.

The report said the Syrian Army has been heavily targeting several areas believed to be Islamic State hideouts along the Deir Ezzor-Homs provincial border.

This latest operation by the Syrian Armed Forces comes shortly after the Islamic State launched a series of deadly attacks that killed and wounded several military personnel in the Homs countryside.

Since ISIS lost its so-called ‘caliphate’ in Syria and Iraq, the terrorist group has moved its remaining forces to the desert region between both countries.

The Islamic State has mostly launched their attacks against the Syrian and Iraqi forces during the twilight hours before disappearing back into the desert; this has made it difficult to track many of these terrorists down.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-launches-new-military-operation-in-eastern-syria/

The escalation starts when the SyAF or SAA hits the Turkish artillery positions. They are unlikely to take incoming without responding.


Militant groups announced that with the support of Turkish artillery, begin a military operation on the Saraqeb axis against the positions of the Syrian army in the southeastern countryside of Idlib

The operation began with the support of Turkish artillery and now the Syrian army positions near the Saraqeb is under artillery attacks.

https://english.iswnews.com/11214/breaking-hts-start-a-new-operation-against-the-syrian-army-with-support-of-turkey/


Syrian_MC
@Syrian_MC

12h
The terrorists received multiple assets from the Turkish army
Multiple APCs and MRAPs
And ~ 3 MRLSs
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13h
Intel. Suggests that the Turkish backed Jihadis are planning to launch a large counter attack against the #SAA tomorrow

From three axis :
Al Nayrab and Taftnazin #Idlib
And Kafr Hamra in #Aleppo CS

They got orders to drag the situation into a direct clashes with the Turks

This move will be causing a bit of panic.

Hubble, bubble, toil and trouble, fire burn and caldron bubble. W Shakespear

this will get ugly in a short time..
with so many trucks of turkey , it will be a matter of time ,turkey will provoke SAA into a fight . and
it will escalate very quickly.. so one thing is certain.. is the syrian army will not retreat from their own land..
and the future of erdogan is the one what will be on the line.. if he launch a war against syria , he will provoke
Russia to come to their side..  if Erdogan retreat and do nothing and allow SAA to continue restoring their territorial sovereignty .. it will lose support at home..   either way.. Erdogan is creating a situation that will end
badly for him.. and the conflict scale to a full scale war..  if Turkey attack Russian airforce.. it will be a total destruction of turkey army in syria... and i can see very heavy weapons used by russia too..  and the entire turkey
army destroyed..  Turkey will get its ass kicked if start attacking Russian military.. in the syrian battle field..
Turkey can get the upper hand if go full retard.. and declare a full scale war on syria and russia.. and iran..

but russia will have a clear advantage on the black sea.. will continue sinking  turkey warships and force erdogan
to retreat ,by attacking his rear flank.. NATO already told will not interfere if they provoke a war against Russia..
so turkey will be more or less alone..and only israel will be attacking too from the other side..

like other have said.. syria is already destroyed.. for the wars.. most their cities and buildings have
signals of the war..  so turkey and israel are the ones that have a lot more to lose..

iran can become the most valuable player if start flatening israel with their missiles ,in response for israel attacks.. if the netanyahu think..his nukes will win a war.. he is seriously mistaken.. he will not dare to target iranian major cities with them.. but even if they do.. they will not surrender and in the end everyone will pressure israel to and erdogan to abandon syria.. so my prediction is if a major big war happens..
between turkey,israel vs russia -syria and iran..    then the latest have all the possibilities to win long term..
and israel and turkey will be the biggest losers.. if provoke russia and iran into a full scale war..  

israel nuking syria and iran. will not earn anything... at all ,only get its country destroyed.. in the
russian ,syrian and iranian response this is because syria have no option left than to fight alqaeda.. that continues using idlib to attack aleppo.. they will prefer to die.. fighting,, that to live with nato backed terror
groups bombing every day their cities..

Eventually there will be a cease of fire.. but i predict.. if turkey and israel start a major war..against syria and rusia to stop their advance against the terrorist, they will be the biggest losers.. russia will fight turkey and iran will fight israel.. conventional weapons ,can do as much damage as nukes if they used in very big numbers and with precision.. ecause israel is small country.. just 1,000 missiles precision attack ,like the ones used by iran on american bases.. will cause more economical damage on infrastructure than a nuclear attack.. because nukes the energy goes mostly upward..and is wasted.. but 1,000 missiles fired with precision on 1,000 very valuable economic buildings and factories can paralze any nation economy.. for months..  or years.. destruction of bridges , of military bases of factories ,nuclear reactors.. drones factories destroyed . israel economy will sink to a couple of decades.. if start a major war..etc.... so conventional weapons should not be underestimated
the economical damage it can cause.. if they hit with presicion their targets..

im sure the russian army have plans already for the worse kind of scenarios what to do...
and they will try even if a war start. to do it in a limited way.. so to leave open the door for a cease of fire.
but if nukes used.. by israel.. im sure putin will have hands tied and will not be able to convince its military
to abandon the war.. they will flatern israel too with iranian also helping.. sometimes before there is peace
a major war had to happen...  so the next 1-5 weeks will see the turning point of the syrian war..  i don't consider a victory the full capture of idlib.. but instead russia avoiding a major war ,while at the same time
holding in syria.. its position , to continue free to bomb nato and israel backed terrorist ,while syria and iran strengtening .. and controlling the most important zones..

@ Vann7

"...... like other have said.. syria is already destroyed.. for the wars.. most their cities and buildings have signals of the war..  so turkey and israel are the ones that have a lot more to lose......"

Well said. And I agree. I still doubt the major powers will get directly involved against each other. So it is for Syrians on the ground to decide it all. And it is better to have loved and lost, than not to have loved at all. The SAA action against the Rats and the Rat master is very important. Even if not entirely successful. Because it sets the standard. It lays claim to Syrian territory. It says we will claim territory and we will defend to death, this land. May Allah provide the dead Turk invading troops, that died by Syrian artillery,  some Donner kebab in heaven or  any other place they happen to find themselves.....


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-02-10/turkey-deploys-tanks-commandos-to-break-sieges-in-syria-s-idlib

Russia isn't going to bomb the turks over Assad, that's not how Putin works.

If the Turks start shooting the SAA are good as defeated, Turkish army is way stronger.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Russia isn't going to bomb the turks over Assad, that's not how Putin works.

If the Turks start shooting the SAA are good as defeated, Turkish army is way stronger.

I wouldn't say that!

Turkish Forces can't use their Air Force, without air support and SAA with air support from RuAf and SyAF, Turkish land Forces will face big problems. Turkish tanks have no reactive armor or passive IR protection against AT missiles, thus highly vulnerable if not moving. The SAA is now very experienced in combat, you can't say that about Turkish Forces after the big "cleaning", after the Gülen coup.

Question is...how many dead soldiers will Turkey accept??? 30, 100, 200 dead soldiers and the anger of turkish people is directed against Assad, the Russians and Syria...but 500, 1000 or more dead soldiers and the anger will backlash to Erdogan itself and he will simply lose next elections in Turkey.

By the way...today 5 turkish soldiers died, after artillery attack of SAA.